It's not the government fault there is no disclosure, it's the "Channelers" fault!

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The only "channeling" I really take seriously. The "Ra Material" as it is called. I can give this channeling serious consideration because the philosophies "channeled" are so deep and elegant and devoid of logical fallacy. Even if all this Ra Material was written by a creative human with zero alien/extraterrestrial/extradimensional involvement, it is still (in my opinion, of course) one of the greatest works of philosophy ever. I feel it is better, more accurate, less fallible, more beautiful and even more natural than the Upanishads and Vedas of Hinduism. The Tao Te Ching is also very very profound, almost as profound as the Law of One/Ra Material (for me).

But... Of all the extremely varied philosophies and ideologies I have explored, the Law of One rings truest. I cannot find any fault in its reasoning. Forget all the specific things about our society and its history which are mentioned, forget the supposed ET source, forget everything but the raw message therein, and you will find one of the most impressive works of philosophy ever recorded onto paper.

edit:

Perhaps if I hadn't read all the Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Pagan, Sumerian, etc etc literature, then the Ra Material would not be so impressive, for it plucks the most poignant and profound bits of each philosophy and shows how they are linked together, resolving many inter-ideology paradoxes. Without reading tons of other philosophies (having been most drawn to the Vedas/Upanishads), this would not have been so mind-blowing.

Or maybe, if this was the first philosophical thing I had read, I wouldn't have spent so much time on the in-between ideas (meaning other religions/ideologies from our civilization) leading up to the Law of One. I coulda saved quite a few years if I went straight to the good stuff!

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
I have extreme contempt for the perfidious people who take advantage of them.

Such abuse is the ultimate low point of Ufology.

They are predatory, sharing much in common with other huckster paranormalists and pseudo-science promoters, exploiting hopes and fears of their audience like a Greer or Jenny McCarthy. Though channelers do not seem to have the impact that a Greer or Jenny McCarthy has, they are perhaps more insidious, because they have nothing but their word and a stage show. It is amazing that anyone falls for it but that is the power of telling people what they want to hear...

IF this is true, THEN why are religion,science and the UN making announcements of a major paradim shift simultaneously?

reply to post by Monts


The old story of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind.

I can't speak for everyone but I know I will pretty much disregard anything a channeler says nowadays.

You could call it close minded but at the end of the day I'd rather spend my time working elsewhere in the field.

reply to post by Chadwickus


Chadwickus.....

Did you ever see what Internos stated as the key attribute of the best channellers?

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

I telepathically asked Aliens if 2012 was real once,
I didnt do any weird voice or anything, I just sent out my thoughts while I was on the internet,
And the next day a ufo showed up in my backyard,
it was flying really low too, like right at the top of an Oak Tree,
just a gigantic ball of light


Anyways,
Here is a real Channeler
She doesnt say she gets messages from Aliens or Spirits,
She just calls the information "Downloads"
Dont bother her either, She is a really sweet person

I have only one thing to ask of the people who claim channelling is real:

Prove it empirically.

Those of us considered debunkers (despite the fact I have had experiences I can't explain) look for the most logical explanation for any phenomenon.

The most logical explanation for channellers is that they are faking.

Funny how they charge for their services yet the people they claim to be channelling are full of love and only want to advance our spiritual progression.

$50 please!

reply to post by tetsuo

Hi tetsuo!

So glad I read your post !

See the second line of my signature ! B-)
Wellll. . . the first one is nice too ! B-)

That material answers almost all our profound questions ! !

Blue skies.

Originally posted by SupremeKnowledge
I telepathically asked Aliens if 2012 was real once,

You can prove you have telepathic abilities? Or did you just 'wish'?

I didnt do any weird voice or anything, I just sent out my thoughts while I was on the internet,

So you do relate channelling with putting on a weird voice. When you sent out your voice whilst on the Internet, how did you do this? Describe the process of telepathy.

And the next day a ufo showed up in my backyard,
it was flying really low too, like right at the top of an Oak Tree,
just a gigantic ball of light

Provide photographic proof. If you claim to believe in channelling and telepathy the least you can do is record a physical manifestation you say was entirely due to your actions.

Do it again and have a still or movie camera to record the results.

Anyways,
Here is a real Channeler
She doesnt say she gets messages from Aliens or Spirits,
She just calls the information "Downloads"
Dont bother her either, She is a really sweet person

I'm guessing you're a teenager and fancy her.

reply to post by Slippery Jim


Explain Telepathy?
Thats kind of hard, Im not super powerful its more sporadic,
Telepathy is your voice in your mind, but there are 2 levels,
the normal level which most people are always at, and the higher level,
The higher level is where you could send and receive thoughts.
Kind of like how NASA's Space Telescopes can receive different spectrums of light froim the stars and universe,


When I saw the UFO I tried to get grab my digital camera, But I couldn't find the rechargeable battery, and I didnt want to spend all my time looking for it because I thought the UFO might go away any second,

What makes you think Im a teenager?

Anyways,
I don't have to prove anything to you,
I don't care if you believe me or not,
You're lucky I even shared any information with you at all

If you had any manners you would've thanked me,
Instead of trying to attack me

Originally posted by SupremeKnowledge
If you had any manners you would've thanked me,
Instead of trying to attack me

I didn't attack you. I asked you to explain yourself. If you consider that an attack it says a lot about your self confidence.

Give me one quote where I attacked you or insulted you.

I just asked for an explanation.

I just asked you to provide empirical proof for telepathy and channelling.

Please do so and stop accusing me of attacking you unless you can prove I did so.

If you can't prove I attacked you I'd like an appology please.

Originally posted by SupremeKnowledge
Anyways,
I don't have to prove anything to you,
I don't care if you believe me or not,
You're lucky I even shared any information with you at all

Okay, lets take this one line at a time:

You DO have to prove something. The alternative is blind belief.

You obviously do or you wouldn't bother arguing.

I can do without blind-believers in wishy-washy, love-in, new-age nonsense trying to tell me they are right because they want the rest of society to treat them better than they have been so far because they are so inadequate.

Now THAT is an insult!

reply to post by SupremeKnowledge


I've asked you a lot of questions and you haven't answered a single one.

Why is that?

Us "debunkers" address every question levelled at us. We answer according to known scientific laws. We don't just accept something as "fact" because that is what we want to believe.

I'd really like to hear your scientific proof for your beliefs.

I suspect I may have to wait an infinity to get them.

reply to post by Slippery Jim

Hi, Slippery Jim.

Do you "know" that the mind controls somewhat the matter ??
And I **can** prove it to you !

Blue skies.

S&F

Well Chad, I didn't know much about the channelers except

for the day MMN introduced the famous BASHAR to me whilst

I was drinking my coffee. Well I don't have to tell you why my

screen and keyboard got all messy do I? You got it! I spit my

coffee! Funny stuff these guys!

reply to post by Maybe...maybe not


I probably have but a refresher is always good.

reply to post by KIZZZY


Yeah you gotta watch that with some of these guys.

The liquid through nose ratio substantially increases when dealing with them!

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Maybe...maybe not

 

I probably have but a refresher is always good.

Well Chadwickus.....

Internos said.....

"The best channellers are the ones that STFU!"



Cheers mate
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by Chadwickus
It's not the government fault there is no disclosure, it's the "Channelers" fault!

I do not agree with that Chadwickus, and here is why.

Firstly I think it is not even correct to speak of whoever’s fault, because it is very understandable that when they [the military and the government] back then [around 1930/1950] where confronted with the undisputable fact that we are not alone and as it did seem very clear being visited by otherworldly beings they did all what they could do to keep it Above Top Secret so to say for certain reasons.

One reason in my opinion was to prevent a grand scale panic and another was obvious for pure military reasons regarding “their” technology.

I also thought that there were back then not even people who we call today such "Channelers".

Then another thing, I think that the “chosen” government is not even in the position or has not even the power to do a disclosure.
Because as it seems the whole UFO/UAP/ET phenomenon is in my opinion in other hands then the “chosen” government.
And with other hands I mean in the first place the Aliens themselves and secondly the so called “secret shadow government” as said by Senator Daniel K. Inouye in 1987.

"There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself."

Senator Daniel K. Inouye in 1987 Chaired the Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition, which held public hearings on the Iran-Contra affair.

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reply to post by spacevisitor

Firstly I think it is not even correct to speak of whoever’s fault, because it is very understandable that when they [the military and the government] back then [around 1930/1950] where confronted with the undisputable fact that we are not alone and as it did seem very clear being visited by otherworldly beings they did all what they could do to keep it Above Top Secret so to say for certain reasons.

Can I stop you there, the mid 40's through to early 70's was a period of very active UFO research and investigation.

What was discovered is debatable I suppose but things certainly weren't "above top secret" back then.