A Final Warning To All

Originally posted by godddd
To convey the message that god is a him, a entity separated from humankind is highly subjective.
one should not have to learn about the image of god which we humans ourself have created.
Enough deaths and mutilations have happened already in the past because of that.
Please do convey wisely if you are, dont asume according to old literature.

I do not disagree with you my friend. I use he/him as it is a common reference. There is NO word which can be adequately applied to that which is all. Even the word "all" fails for no one can fully comprehend what the "all" consists of.

Use what word you like, it will fail to encompass that which we have come to understand as incomprehensible and inadequately labeled "God".

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


I dont think it matters that we call God a him, its just an easy term of reference, we could call him the milk man or Colin, hes still God and we know who IAMIAM means, its not worth making a deal over, and i doubt very much if God cares.

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Then why use a description? we have descriptions for just about anything but the description is never the described.
A description is easely misunderstood, so don't mention (a) god at all, because description is a separation from the described.
How can we know what god is? we don't, but we can live in utter silence with virtue and harmony, the rest will come naturaly.
To go after a desciption is to follow, to seek and find.
So there is a seeker and the seeker is separated from what you call god.

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Actually it does matter, first there is an image, and then we learn about the image, giving it a personality and so on.
We have created something outside of us, and there is a separation between ourself and what it is we created.
Furthermore, how to live with the idea and everything surrounding that image? see history what it has done for humankind

Originally posted by godddd
but we can live in utter silence with virtue and harmony, the rest will come naturaly.

Do you believe this to be truth my friend?

I am in no way intending to belittle your position, but I must point out that you felt so strongly about your perception of God that you had to correct my description of him didn't you?

Where was this practice of utter silence and harmony?

It is a great theory, which does not come naturally, or else you wouldn't need to come on a site and point it out to others.

We wish to know, therefore we discuss. In discussing we use words to share our thoughts that others might partake. It is not the labeling which matters, but the intent and demonstration of that which we believe which speaks closer to our own truth.

It is easy for me to tell you I believe God is Love. But it is far more powerful for me to extend my hand in your time of need and SHOW you by my actions.

With Love,

Your Brother

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Truth is subjective

There is no position either, why does one need position? what is it that takes wants or seeks position?
Silence and harmony cannot be practiced, its not a goal to achieve, nor is it a theory.
Harmony is love, not a theory, silence is being without thoughts, not a theory, it comes through seeing.
To see life in action arround me reveals a great deal of misconception.
One can see for himself, but seeing not with his own background and drawing conclusions, but see pure without the screens of background.

The reason for me to come to any site and react is not to teach, you can either go into it or reject it, thats up to you and others.
But i feel it as a responsibility to get us to look beyond our self and al the labeling and descriptions.
I care, thats my motivation, so much violence and suffering in the world about nothing, and we just carry on.
If there is one truth? it is 'we don't know'

This was by no means an attack or anything, if it hurted your feelings than sorry for that, it certainly is not my intention.

Originally posted by godddd
If there is one truth? it is 'we don't know'

Absolutely! Therefore, just share what we think and leave the knowing to him, it, all that does.

Originally posted by godddd
This was by no means an attack or anything, if it hurted your feelings than sorry for that, it certainly is not my intention.

Not at all my friend. I did not perceive it as an attack nor has your words caused me pain in anyway. I enjoy the sharing.

With Love,

Your Brother

Love your post man, whats the warning though? is it to get that message out before the end?

Originally posted by Lonewolf2585
Love your post man, whats the warning though? is it to get that message out before the end?

Thank you for resurrecting this thread my friend. The warning is simply to Love everything and everyone before your end. No Man knows the day of his demise, thus it is never too soon to lead a life from the heart and change the lives of those around you.

With Love,

Your Brother

Thank you op

I love you too brother

I agree with you. What you got and what we were taught was all a lie. I'm begining to wake up and see mans true nature. I'm been reading up on things to come and this is the real deal.
> 100th Monkey Theory, Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind. Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way TPTB or TPCG, it may remain the conscious property of these people. But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!
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> Hey folks, I know I hit something on this one topic. It's starting to make sense to me very well. The bible was re done so the TPTB or TPCG would always be in control of us. Its true but worded differently then its true nature, just like the 100th Monkey Theory I found while researching. Mostly all of these wars were religious in nature.
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> Gods chosen people 144k, they are the fishers of men to spread the word of god to this generation of life, just like the 100th Monkey. Others view it as Gods Chosen to be saved, why not me, why them. Christians example, are viewed to others as a CANNIBAL Religion The body bread, wine blood. If bible was printed as it should have been this word of God continued to now 2000 years of the true Gospel we would be beyond where we are today. A lot of the Universities are given these grants to research topics like crop circles etc.
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> This link proves this: www.quantum-computing-programming.com...
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> A brief research
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> In 1952, on the island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkeys liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant. An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new way and they taught their mothers too.
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> This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists. Between 1952 and 1958 all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.
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> Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshima monkeys were washing sweet potatoes - the exact number is not known.
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> Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes. Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.
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> THEN IT HAPPENED!
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> By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them. The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!
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> But notice. A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea.
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> Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes.
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> Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind. Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the conscious property of these people. But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!
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Thank you for a most interesting contribution. Lets all hope the 100th monkey clues in soon.

With Love,

Your Brother

my brother this is the greatest thread i have read here, by far.

it is good to see that some of us get it.
and saddening that some of us don't.

i believe this forum to be the perfect place for this style of thinking, seeing this as a place of truth seekers. to love is the greatest commandment and the greatest gift of all.

it is the greatest because it is so readily available and so easy to give.

i couldn't take the time to read all the posts in this thread for it is entirely to long, but i see that many just don't want to accept the true purpose of life is simply to love and be loved. not just love one another, but to love everything. love all of the creations.

i especially love the fact that you speak the truth that all religion is man made. although a shame that many don't realize that there is a big difference between religion and faith. religion being man made laws and regulations, which while hold true(in some cases) to be very good advice, miss the point completely, and that point being if you love you will do all those things naturally.

for if you love your wife you will never commit adultery. if you love everyone you will never lie, cheat, kill or steal. if you love the world and everything in it, you will never disrespect the gift that has been given to us, which is earth.

i will in fact state i love the bible and see it for what it is. an instruction manuel of how to love. many people miss the simple truths it holds. that a life of simplicity is all one needs. it is in fact a two sided sword. almost like a locked book that one must have a key to open and that key is love.

there is a great awakening in progress. i see it i see it through the hideousness this world tries to portray. people are awakening to the fact that they just want to be loved and they only need love.

for if/when the world realized that the only necessity in life is love all other things would pass away. all the things that clutter our lives would become nothing in a matter of seconds. for one would not want to complicate an-others life and visa versa. for our lives are filled with clutter, and sadly it has become so embedded into our society that one must tote the line for simple survival.

thank you for this thread. it is very uplifting to see those in whom i can share my understanding. it is a beautiful thing is it not. the simplicity of it all. it shows the true beauty of us humans. that all we need is love and not fame/fortune/looks/materialism/etc... and all the things this world offers as "happiness". we are truly beautiful beings.

peace and love my brother.
may that which is all that it is bless your walk and give you his strength.

Thank you brother, for helping me fully understand who I am in life. Life is not about fortune and fame but the beauty of life its self is what what keeps it going strong. The love from one another, fuels this world and the more people realize the better this world will be. Again thank you brother you have changed my life forever.

First I will tell you I am not a believer in god or Christianity, but I have “tried” several religions one of which was Christianity. I do; however, respect the rights and opinions of others who do.

This tower of Babble thing has always made me wonder about the reason behind it – if there was a god why would he want the people to not have what could be considered a form of “One World Government”.

Currently we are moving closer to the world again trying to overcome these barriers of language and culture. They are getting closer every day and admittedly the earth and nature itself seems to be sending warnings more and more as we get closer to this goal.

The quest for power and money drive the machine of the world culture.

Why would this be a bad thing for the deity (more importantly us humans) and why the issue at the Tower of Babble?

Genesis 11:1-9

The Tower of Babel - Story Summary:
Up until this point in the Bible, the whole world had one language - one common speech for all people. The people of the earth became skilled in construction and decided to build a city with a tower that would reach to heaven. By building the tower they wanted to make a name for themselves and also prevent their city from being scattered.

God came to see their city and the tower they were building. He perceived their intentions, and in His infinite wisdom, He knew this "stairway to heaven" would only lead the people away from God. He noted the powerful force within their unity of purpose. As a result, God confused their language, causing them to speak different languages so they would not understand each other. By doing this, God thwarted their plans. He also scattered the people of the city all over the face of the earth.

Points of Interest from the Story:
• Some scholars believe that this marks the point in history where God divided the earth into separate continents.
• God says in Genesis 11:6, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them." (NIV) God realizes that when people are unified in purpose they can accomplish impossible feats, both noble and ignoble.

Is it an affront to him or a warning to us that this One World thing is not the way for us to go – that as human beings we need challenge, comflict and even war to develop along our path?

You seem like a learned Bible guy so maybe you can help me reconcile this issue. I am not trolling or baiting you and will listen to your point of view.

I tend to think that the One World folks are going against the nature of man as biological beings we crave conflict, competition and strife unity and One World Order would doom us IMO.

Would a world of love and plenty for all devoid of this in effect; seal our doom forever?

Basically IMO we would become stagnant and complacent and stop evolving; however, I am not expert for sure and am open to discussion.

Originally posted by Golf66
You seem like a learned Bible guy so maybe you can help me reconcile this issue. I am not trolling or baiting you and will listen to your point of view.

I tend to think that the One World folks are going against the nature of man as biological beings we crave conflict, competition and strife unity and One World Order would doom us IMO.

Would a world of love and plenty for all devoid of this in effect; seal our doom forever?

Basically IMO we would become stagnant and complacent and stop evolving; however, I am not expert for sure and am open to discussion.

When I read the old testament my friend, I try to put myself in the writers shoes. The old testament is based on oral traditions from many sources. Lets pretend for a moment that we are the rabbis of a tribe. We have wandered over many lands and met many people along the way. One day one of our people ask us why the many people we met speak a different tongue, and why do they war against one another? We are the wise men and must think of a logical reason. We are supposed to have the answers. So, we think on the situation and come up with an answer that would make logical sense at the time.

Remember, God created all Mankind, so we cannot go back on our word and now say there are different Gods, or that God created more than one people.

So, was there a Tower? Maybe there was, maybe there wasn't. I do not know. If there was and the story is literal, then perhaps Mankind was not ready to reach for the stars at that point. If it is allegorical, which is what I believe, then it gives a fanciful answer as to why there are so many different tribes of Man with different tongues. Personally, I believe Mankind migrated out of Africa and as they relocated, their language change with them. I was born I Baltimore and have migrated to North Carolina. I am an eye witness to how easy it is to lose a common tongue.

What I do know through observation, is that if mankind does not unite at this point, we will destroy each other.

We are evolving to the point where one person can concoct a weapon of unimaginable strength in their own kitchen sink. Whether it be biological, chemical, or even nuclear, we are more deadly than we have ever been at any other time in our history.

I am not superstitious. I see God as everything before us, as a whole. We are but a small part of the divine consciousness. I do not see God as a personification. God is beyond our current understanding. We cannot see the whole of this existence. I do think we are meant to learn though. Thus, our next step in evolution needs to be taken together, in love.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by QuidEstVerita
Thank you brother, for helping me fully understand who I am in life. Life is not about fortune and fame but the beauty of life its self is what what keeps it going strong. The love from one another, fuels this world and the more people realize the better this world will be. Again thank you brother you have changed my life forever.

Thank you for stopping by and sharing my friend. I am truly honored that my words had an impact on you. May you never loose sight of the beauty all around you and the love within.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by stuncrazy
my brother this is the greatest thread i have read here, by far.

it is good to see that some of us get it.
and saddening that some of us don't.

i believe this forum to be the perfect place for this style of thinking, seeing this as a place of truth seekers. to love is the greatest commandment and the greatest gift of all.

it is the greatest because it is so readily available and so easy to give.

i couldn't take the time to read all the posts in this thread for it is entirely to long, but i see that many just don't want to accept the true purpose of life is simply to love and be loved. not just love one another, but to love everything. love all of the creations.

i especially love the fact that you speak the truth that all religion is man made. although a shame that many don't realize that there is a big difference between religion and faith. religion being man made laws and regulations, which while hold true(in some cases) to be very good advice, miss the point completely, and that point being if you love you will do all those things naturally.

for if you love your wife you will never commit adultery. if you love everyone you will never lie, cheat, kill or steal. if you love the world and everything in it, you will never disrespect the gift that has been given to us, which is earth.

i will in fact state i love the bible and see it for what it is. an instruction manuel of how to love. many people miss the simple truths it holds. that a life of simplicity is all one needs. it is in fact a two sided sword. almost like a locked book that one must have a key to open and that key is love.

there is a great awakening in progress. i see it i see it through the hideousness this world tries to portray. people are awakening to the fact that they just want to be loved and they only need love.

for if/when the world realized that the only necessity in life is love all other things would pass away. all the things that clutter our lives would become nothing in a matter of seconds. for one would not want to complicate an-others life and visa versa. for our lives are filled with clutter, and sadly it has become so embedded into our society that one must tote the line for simple survival.

thank you for this thread. it is very uplifting to see those in whom i can share my understanding. it is a beautiful thing is it not. the simplicity of it all. it shows the true beauty of us humans. that all we need is love and not fame/fortune/looks/materialism/etc... and all the things this world offers as "happiness". we are truly beautiful beings.

peace and love my brother.
may that which is all that it is bless your walk and give you his strength.

Thank you for a great reply my friend. You have definitely found the love within you!

Peace and Love to you, always.

With Love,

Your Brother

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i'll take a crack at your response.

the reason one world government is a bad thing... is not because the ideology is a bad thing, but rather because we as sinful creatures will make it a bad thing.

it is common knowledge that power by the select few to rule tyrannically over the masses is a horrible thing. for the select elite few will only rule for the best interest of themselves and not the many.

if we lived in a world of love then yes a one world government would be a good thing because it would be the global consensus to promote the betterment of one another and help each other out, but as history has shown is that we allow ourselves to be selfish.

with that in mind, the tower of babel was mans way of making itself in essence above God and a selfish act. more then likely proving that the select few used the masses to build this monument for their own glory.

the old testament is full of the folly of man and how man leads itself to its own destruction, out of selfishness and pride. if we accepted love and gave it freely we would need not self glorification nor self gratification.
the story of Yeshua is a story of self-denial and loving another above oneself. it is the beauty of it. that a man gave his life in order to teach the masses to love one another, which the world does not teach. the world teaches neigh promotes self.

i hope my words have helped and if not please ask and i will try harder

with love

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Very insightful interpretation my friend. Well done.

With Love,

Your Brother