Iran unveils squadrons of flying boats

reply to post by butcherguy


Just wondering if you read this part of my post?

as you advance, the pace doubles, I guess you don't know that

This is about advancement, who else in that region except Israel has these capabilities?

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Just wondering if you read this part of my post?

as you advance, the pace doubles, I guess you don't know that

This is about advancement, who else in that region except Israel has these capabilities?

Iran's advancement will be bombed into dust if they go to war with Israel or the USA. I don't care what armament the Iranians put on those boat planes, they will never be a threat to western tech. Iran would have been better off advancing their home built jet fighters than wasting money on these things.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


Not really, this is strategic which you still don't understand, do you know how important the Persian Gulf is?

Iran can block and disrupt the flow of oil, which can hit the Western economy hard, and with these little flying boats they can do a lot. Hey, they can even use them as Kamakazi missions, you know, like Japan

"Naturally every country under attack by an enemy uses all its capacity and opportunities to confront the enemy," said Maj Gen Jafari in the local Jam-e Jam newspaper. "Regarding the main route for exiting energy, Iran will definitely act to impose control on the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz."

www.telegraph.co.uk...
If they are attacked they will disrupt and stop the flow of oil.

About 40 per cent of all world oil exports flow through the 35-mile wide Strait of Hormuz, banked along its northern side by Iran. With world oil supplies already constricted, any Iranian action could push energy prices through the roof.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Originally posted by FreeSpeaker

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Just wondering if you read this part of my post?

as you advance, the pace doubles, I guess you don't know that

This is about advancement, who else in that region except Israel has these capabilities?

Iran's advancement will be bombed into dust if they go to war with Israel or the USA. I don't care what armament the Iranians put on those boat planes, they will never be a threat to western tech. Iran would have been better off advancing their home built jet fighters than wasting money on these things.

I believe Iran is building a new jet as well. They had something that resembled a stealth fighter in a parade this summer.
www.youtube.com...


ehm what happened here?

reply to post by spy66

The more I see of the touted 'technological progress' of Iran, the more I get to chuckle.

That "stealth fighter' is a mockup, a pretty sad one at that.

All the changes to the format on ATS are sure making things sketchy over the past couple days.

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Just wondering if you read this part of my post?

as you advance, the pace doubles, I guess you don't know that

This is about advancement, who else in that region except Israel has these capabilities?

Why yes, I did read your post in it's entirety.

Then I asked a straightforward and I believe, simple pair of related questions.

I noticed that they went unanswered.

Thank you.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


Actually no, if Iran is attacked, it is all out war, so as I said previously the vital oil rout will be disrupted and blocked, because there will be a conflict.

Get it?

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

Actually no, if Iran is attacked, it is all out war, so as I said previously the vital oil rout will be disrupted.

Get it?

That in its self is no real deterrent. As if the governments care if we pay more for gas.

And for how long anyways? A week, a month, a year? Doesn't matter because what america wants it gets. I don't agree with it buts thats the reality.

reply to post by butcherguy


Sorry mate, some people actually have a brain to know that advancement is much more important for the long run.

Having unique, domestically designed and produced defense systems gives you that edge, while buying American weapons don't

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


You think US can attack Iran and get away with it?

What do you think the consequences of such an attack will be, humor me

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Sorry mate, some people actually have a brain to know that advancement is much more important for the long run.

Having unique, domestically designed and produced defense systems gives you that edge, while buying American weapons don't

And if those weapons and defense systems are useless against their enemies, what good are they? Sorry, but I think your beating a dead horse. All this advacement you speak of, if you call a 50 year old design an advancement, will be destroyed if they go to war.

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

You think US can attack Iran and get away with it?

What do you think the consequences of such an attack will be, humor me

You tell me. Your the one who assumes something dire will happen from a attack on Iran.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker

And if those weapons and defense systems are useless against their enemies, what good are they? Sorry, but I think your beating a dead horse. All this advacement you speak of, if you call a 50 year old design an advancement, will be destroyed if they go to war.

Ok, what is advancement in your dictionary?

Is it by any chance buying US made weapons? Do you think the Arab puppet nations are advancing?

reply to post by FreeSpeaker

You tell me. Your the one who assumes something dire will happen from a attack on Iran.

So you think you can attack Iran and nothing will happen? Will you invade Iran after the attack, or just attack it?

Let's see where this one goes

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by FreeSpeaker

 

You tell me. Your the one who assumes something dire will happen from a attack on Iran.

So you think you can attack Iran and nothing will happen? Will you invade Iran after the attack, or just attack it?

Let's see where this one goes

edit on 30-9-2010 by oozyism because: (no reason given)

I do believe the Bush admins plans were to destroy all of Irans anti air/ship systmes, nuclear facilities, and military infrastructure. Nowhere do I remember hearing of plans for full invasion but just securing the coasts. I'm sure they made new plans since but that is what the Bush/Cheney admin had planned.

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


So you think bombing those facilities won't have any dire consequences?

Like for example the proxy Mahdi army go on a killing spree, hunting American soldiers?

What do you think will happen?

What about Afghanistan, a little support for the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan would break America's back, don't you think?

We all know what the US is capable of, but the consequences of actions should also be taken in to consideration.

We all know the US is capable of destroying this whole planet, did you know that? So does that mean, the US will destroy the whole planet because it has that capability? No, because they think about the consequences of their actions, hence, they live in this darn planet

Originally posted by oozyism
What about Afghanistan, a little support for the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan would break America's back, don't you think?

Iran has been supporting the insurgents from the beginning or did you miss those news reports?

We all know what the US is capable of, but the consequences of actions should also be taken in to consideration.

And what was the last administration in the USA to care about consequences?

We all know the US is capable of destroying this whole planet, did you know that? So does that mean, the US will destroy the whole planet because it has that capability? No, because they think about the consequences of their actions, hence, they live in this darn planet

So now you say the US can destroy everyone and yet here you are arguing over the effectiveness of Iran's boat planes like their a threat to a force that can destroy the world..

reply to post by FreeSpeaker


Why are you wasting my time? If you don't want to discuss an issue, don't, leave it alone.

It seems you don't know what advancement means, when you didn't have an ability before, you worked towards learning it, then you learn it, that is advancing.

Iran didn't have this capability before.

Iran didn't have the capability designing and producing drones.

Iran didn't have the capability of enriching its own uranium.

I can go on, but you are so naive, that you think because the US has that capability, it means Iran is not advancing? WTF

In regards to an attack on Iran, I don't think you know much about world politics and how things play out, you don't even know what advancement means, first get your head around that issue, then go deeper in to more complicated (or not) issues.