Obama admin wants to track you on the internet now.

Hmmm, wonder when the Obamabots are going to wake up from their messiah induced euphoria? So, tracking us with GPS, listening into phone calls, reading our text messages, reading our emails and now watching everything we do on the internet.

When the hell is everyone going to wake up to this insanity. The war on terror is not the war on terror, it is a war on our freedoms, liberty and privacy.

Article-Wiretapped phones, now Internet?

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Essentially, officials want Congress to require all services that enable communications -- including encrypted e-mail transmitters such as BlackBerry, social networking websites such as Facebook and software that allows direct "peer-to-peer" messaging such as Skype -- to be technically capable of complying if served with a wiretap order. The mandate would include being able to intercept and unscramble encrypted messages.

The legislation, which the Obama administration plans to submit to Congress next year, raises fresh questions about how to balance security needs with protecting privacy and fostering technological innovation. And because security services around the world face the same problem, it could set an example that is copied globally.

So, are we going to have ANYONE of you stand up and call him a tyrant anytime soon? What the HELL is a matter with you people? If it helps, imagine GW's face on him if you are that enthralled with him. It might help you pull your head out of your ass.

Come on, come and dissemble. Come and attempt to make excuses for this.

1984 is here and the Obamabots will cheer it on!

interesting news, but not a big surprise.

Terrorism is certainly not the reason why Obama is in urge to make this complete surveilance of the Internet. It would probably also prevent whistleblowers from giving secret information to organisations like wikileaks, it would also be used for industrial espionage. And if conditions heating up in the US (because of worse economy, bankruptcy of the US, awakened people etc.) the US government probably would probably also punish people who talk about riots, security threatened stuff, conspiracy theories and such things...

I wonder which step the US governmet will take after the complete surveilance of the internet. The direction to Orwells 1984 is obvious.

Maybe such projects like Diaspora will make it a bit harder for secret agencies to control the whole communication.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


You are right, more and more under the guise of fighting terror private interest are investing billions of dollars into devices and schemes to profit from individuals right to privacy and freedoms.

All this schemes have nothing to do with fighting terror but is more about oppression, but as long a people keep drinking koolaid and wearing pink glasses they think everything is just peachy and Big corrupted brother hold all Americas citizens at hart.

America needs to wake up because we are becoming nothing but oppressed by those that rules in the nation and is all about money and profits no safety.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


If the Obama administration wants the ability to view all public communications, the same should apply in reverse.

We should be able to see all White House communications, unencrypted, with everyone they chose to communicate with.

As they say, good things are done in the sunshine.

If the criminal government wants to play big brother, the public should bully those tyrants right back with their own medicine.

20 million illegals in our country and the damn government wants to watch me.... no problem here.

Bush (the shrub) had legal wiretaps and the left went apesh*t over his action. I notice no one speaking up now with Obama wanting an even larger power grab. Where are our leftists protesting and complaining about their boy.

Don't think for one moment this is about terrorism or protecting the public. It's all about control.

reply to post by hinky


Yeah, I think the left is going to avoid this thread like the plague.

I see nothing, I know nothing. I expect sergeant shultz on this one.

By the way, your location, you don't like badgers? What you a gopher or something? Damn gophers.

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Could you imagine the jail cells we could fill if we got to see their communications?

Especially the insider trading that goes on.

this is what the real people call terrorism

I am pro Obama giving people the authority of tracking the Internet. So much child pornography, drug trafficking, terrorist talk and what not goes on over the Internet. All this would be is getting counter-terrorism and counter-crime up to date with the current technology. I am not afraid of them checking my computer. I don't really care, I am not afraid of Uncle Sam like many on this website are. Besides they already can wiretap our phones etc. I am PRO this new "law". It is essential to preventing crime in the modern age.

So, no messiah worshippers?

Well where are you? Come on, let us hear your excuses. I am going to keep this thread on the political madness recent posts until all the ATS Obamaphytes acknowledge this.

So, might just as well come and comment on the tyrant you put in office.

I am not going to let you off.

Originally posted by hinky
20 million illegals in our country and the damn government wants to watch me.... no problem here.

Bush (the shrub) had legal wiretaps and the left went apesh*t over his action. I notice no one speaking up now with Obama wanting an even larger power grab. Where are our leftists protesting and complaining about their boy.

Don't think for one moment this is about terrorism or protecting the public. It's all about control.

Are you a terrorist, are you doing many illegal things online? If not I don't think they would care for watching you.

Why isn't it about terrorism and protecting the public? What evidence or ideas could you come up with to suggest otherwise?

Are you really that paranoid and fearful of Uncle Sam that you would say that it is for other purposes? Really the people in Government are just humans like you and I, most of them are good people. You really think they want to see what youtube videos and post you have been making?

No they want to stop crime and counter-terrorism. So much theft, identify fraud, hacking, child porn, drug trading, terrorism talk etc goes on VIA the Internet. I support this law and I don't understand how you couldn't.

I don't see it as a "left" "right" issue, more as an issue of national security.

reply to post by Ignorance_Defier


Well we have the first one show up. States that anything he does can be videotaped, his computer open for view, phone calls listened to, emails, text messages, location tracked. Hell he is looking forward to the re education and 1984.

Here is a person that would allow anything that his messiah wants.

Any questions people? Now is there any DOUBT what the people backing the progressive agenda would allow?

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Ignorance_Defier

 

Well we have the first one show up. States that anything he does can be videotaped, his computer open for view, phone calls listened to, emails, text messages, location tracked. Hell he is looking forward to the re education and 1984.

Here is a person that would allow anything that his messiah wants.

Any questions people? Now is there any DOUBT what the people backing the progressive agenda would allow?

This isn't part of a "progressive" or "conservative" or any "agenda" except as a means to protect the public. Bush's patriot act was one of the few good things he did while in office. It isn't a LEFT or RIGHT issue. It is a right for protection.

Yes, I don't care about the government looking at my electronic communication.

Do you? I would assume so. I am not afraid of the government. I am not afraid of Uncle Sam. I have nothing to hide on any of my things. I would feel safer if they were able to stop human trafficking, drug trading, child pornography, terrorist plots, identity theft via these new measures.

It's time to for them to get up to date with the modern underworld that is vastly operated via the Internet.

Why are you so afraid? Are you paranoid?

reply to post by Ignorance_Defier


Nope, I have what is called rights.

Once those rights are removed, we have chaos.

I do not like chaos, chaos is not good.

As for your attempt to make this about me, you are just ignorant and a pivot man. Buh bye.

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Ignorance_Defier

 

Nope, I have what is called rights.

Once those rights are removed, we have chaos.

I do not like chaos, chaos is not good.

As for your attempt to make this about me, you are just ignorant and a pivot man. Buh bye.

You are avoiding my points.

You have rights to not have people check your Internet? Where did you get these rights? Can you send me a link that explicitly states this.

Once rights are removed we have chaos? Can you explain to me the logic behind that statement.

Make this about you, you were saying things like messiah worshiper.

This is a non left non right issue. It's an issue about national security. It's more than likely going to pass.

I don't understand why you care if people in the government look at your Internet history. This is simply getting up to date with the criminal underworld, do you not understand that?

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

Once those rights are removed, we have chaos.

With chaos comes great order....

Believe it.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


I kind of disagree.
It is aboout me.
I'm not afraid.
I'm not paranoid.
I want my privacy, no matter how afraid and paranoid someone else might be.
Don't read my mail, listen in on my phone, examine my garbage, etc.

Originally posted by 23refugee
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

 

I kind of disagree.
It is aboout me.
I'm not afraid.
I'm not paranoid.
I want my privacy, no matter how afraid and paranoid someone else might be.
Don't read my mail, listen in on my phone, examine my garbage, etc.

Well the fact is that they can already check your garbage, read your mail and listen to your phone. The internet is the next step.

Do you not understand the amount of illegal activity that happens via the Internet?

This is an issue of national security not a left or right agenda.

Why don't you want people to be able to "read your mail etc"? I am assuming you don't have anything to hide and I am really curious as to why.

This is Patriot Act Part II. Like I've been posting on here, Obama = Bush.
As usual, it has nothing to do with our security, just like making lists of people who read certain books at the library. The point is of course to control, contain and eventually eliminate any political opposition to the ruling class. The intent is to create a complete subservience to the elite, the ones who truly control the state.

Controlling knowledge is the primary weapon of class warfare.

Privacy and technology experts point out that requiring back-door interception capabilities opens the door for hackers as well, pointing to an episode in Greece a few years back where hackers took advantage of a mandated wiretap to spy on the prime minister's phone. 4chan, come out, come out, wherever you are!