Answer me this !

reply to post by Nephi1337
Nephi,

Yes it is serious business to bring up our children in the nurture of our God and Saviour. What that amounts to is teaching them the truth and He says Joh 17:17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. What more do we need to know about where to go. Many would have one to believe Jesus was an imposter but see for yourself if Isa. chap. 53: isn't a prophecy fullfilled in the gospels of Mat., Mark, Luke and John. We must keep on the right track and that track is Truth. Follow Truth and not theology. Theology comes from men who get above the Word and cobble a structure of their own. More can be said but sometimes it's best to eat a little at a time.

For sure the Truth is a precious gem

Truthiron.

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why would god do that to us ?

I don't personally believe this, but it is one possible answer that seems to address your question.

Instead of your son and daughter, imagine laboratory rats. They live in a completely artificial environment. We "created" their universe. We have power over their life and death. We are their only source of food. We could be perceived as their "gods" right?

And yet look at the things we do to them.

I would just like to ask you a few simple questions.

Did you give your son and daughter a sole?
Did you give them breath?
Did you have any control over there health at birth?
Did you pick the color of there eyes?
Did you pick what child you wanted to be born 1st male/female?
Did YOU create them?

At what old old age will they pass?
Of what shall they pass with (old age,virus,accident,ect)
If you gave them life when will you take it?


And i would like to ask you what you think of my friends mom and dad.
Because when he started using drugs and gang banging they tried to help him and after jail and stealing (from them) and all the bad things he done to them they did what they had to do.

They gave up the fight(i did as well) they "sent him away" they still love him but he would not change. I wonder if it is the same with us and God?

Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by Faiol

 

some people have their brain so damaged that they need to to follow an organized religion, they just cant process information like more evolved beings, thats the truth

And some people are so corrupted by thinking they are so evolved they've forgotten what faith is all about. And even when they remember, they fear it - thus calling it only useful for the simpleminded.

Do I know why God did what He did?

No.

Am I such an egoist that I would question God?

LOL, no.

peace

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lol, so, you are saying right now that you KNOW that god exists, not that you believe ... based on your post

I really dont know anything, but that doesnt mean I need to join some organized religion and just follow their line of thought, instead of having my own ...

and in my opinion, you are more evolved if you think for yourself ... but thats just my perspective

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i think humans have the wrong understanding of who and what god is about , and in this simple idea of mine i pictured every one going in rewind back to the very first peron ever created ...and it is their that i found god, and Love

What you think is obvious and true about most humans. They have the wrong idea about God. Not all humans
but the better part. For me it's this simple.

Once you have decided there is a God. A Supreme being who has made all the Universe and everything in it
possible. Who apparently at one time had a relationship with his creation. Man. Until sin got in the way.
Thus you have the reason God seems to be some invisible sky guy. Or however the doubters choose to refer to
their creator. He will not be where sin is. Sin seperates us from God.

Now congradulations you have it in you to realise there must be a God. There's a ton that comes with that
realisation. Never let anyone convince you, that this all powerful being, who hangs the earth in it's place in
the heavens. Isn't capable of getting a simple message to mankind. An unblemished letter to those who love him.
There will someday be a world where instead of trial runs, experiments, and theory. There will be a source for
guidance. This is all mankind is lacking. A relationship with his Maker. Christ was willing to do what needed to
be done to atone for our sins.
Don't think God dosn't place great value on what his son did for us.
So many refuse to understand this simple reason, why if you reject what Christ did at Calvary.
Then there is the second death.
I think the Bible is far and away the most obvious choice for a communication from God almighty. I see nothing that compares.

personally i think most of the parts in the bible that talk about god doing evil things and hell ad satan and all that were either added for control through fear, or were misinterpreted.

reply to post by Nephi1337


If you've not seen it already, watch the ZeitGeist: Addendum movie (see below.) The first part quite adequately lays organised religion to rest for anyone who's open-minded enough to take it in. If you've already seen it, then watch it again and really pay attention this time.

If you still feel that there must be a god, then seek your god individually without the constraints of other people's dogma and rules and then just enjoy life that way.

You'll never change the mind of anyone who is closed to free thinking but by all means bang your head against that wall if you want to.

Go in peace and take your god with you!

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by Nephi1337
then why does god not teach us his right and wrongs? .....maybe the word of god was left in a book ....who knows more question to ponder on

My Friend,

God does teach us what is right. We just choose not to listen.

That which you want at your most basic level, is also what everyone else wants. That is love.

Give it to all, even if they do not return it, and you can not ere.

With Love,

Your Brother

thank you so much for your kind words ,my good man

peace be with you

Love brother Nephi

Originally posted by Tayesin

Originally posted by Nephi1337
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if what you say happens to be true ..may i ask you then ..would you rather be locked in a room for with people that beive in god and life after death and have hope ,or would you rather be locked in a room with people who go by the law do what thow wilt ?

i guess what i am trying to say is ,what if we were never bread to believe in a god , could you imagin how this world would have turnd out? look at it now ,how many people have now faith ? and look at the times ...so it has taken this long for god to slowly fade away and look at what this world is turning into .....but who knows honestly cause alot of people have died in his name

If I had to be locked in a room with people, I'd prefer just people. All different sorts of people.

But to answer the strictest question you asked, I would choose the latter for in that locked room I could shine and share in simplicity. That would not be possible in the first locked room option.

Okay, I'm looking at it now.....

Without the Indoctrination from the moment of our Birth to be a replicant human being, confined by cultural and societal limitations, some would seek what we may call darker paths, as is already the case. Some would choose to walk naked in the Light, and some would choose variations of both ends of that spectrum.

So, just those who walk naked in the Light will Shine brightly enough and heal enough people over time to bring all into the Light again... sounds weird but it works like that. Doesn't seem to in our curren experience but only because not enough are awake yet to Shine brightly.

These Times, are perfect for Now. Humanity is only a blink of an eye so far, we have so far to go. But first we must finish with the Mind-Set of Might is right. And to do this it must reach a very natural conclusion in order for us to be completely finished with it. Meanwhile some few thousands in the world are planting seeds for a future.

Then when done with Might is Right, those of us left will build. But not rebuild, instead they will choose more effective ways to live here, a new direction for human beings into equality, support and care for all it's members. It won't happen over night, some seeds take tens or hundreds of centuries to reach Fruition.

Sorry to ramble on then, I hadn't intended to.

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no no please carry on your words are very wise and i understand every thing to witch you speak ,its very enlightening , and thank you too for your kind honest words my good man

Love Nephi

Originally posted by Nephi1337

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
No body finds the truth in the religion, you'll fined the truth in the bible period, but I warn you!!

The bible has been played with and is very important for you to discover which parts has been added and taken off. Trust me no religion will tell you what has been added or taken of the bible, NO RELIGION WILL TELL YOU THAT. That's why there is so many disagreements about the bible, it has been twisted on purpose by secreat societies like Iluminati, they play a huge roll in this bible conspiracy from a long time ago.

so your idea would be , if i had a row of people and i told someone at one end a secret ,by the time it got to the other end one it would not be a secret ,but i knew that ,and two it would not be what i said ,it might possible be the foundation to what i spoke but not the roof to cover the foundation ,this is how the bible has been written , the word of god is in bits and peaces ,and that is why we have scattered religion ...i understand your words my good man

many thanks

Nephi

Good analogy but I really don't meen that, in most bible the name of God has been taken out of context, most people won't accept the name Jehovah for this reason cause they are not usto using it. The other reason is the book of Enoch was never added to the holy scripts and to mix bits with pieces, most religion talks about a trinity which the bible never mansions at all. Other religion worship Mary like a goddess which she is not. That's wy is so important to point all this out from the bible, and for that? everybody needs to study the bible and do their research thoroughly. The bible is well translated and it says the truth about the second comming of our lord and how to survive this armagedon, is our responsibility to figure that out by really reading it and researching the bible.

I! my self, won't believe anyone standing in front of me, (calling them self elders of God or Priest) telling me what to believe and what not. God gave us a very good mined and ability's to read and research, for me is the only way to save your self from the up coming future we are about to face. Many people won't know what to do at the last moment, many people won't know the difference between angels and demons or celestial entities from heavens ( ET's and UFOs ) good or bad cause their mined has been set and mislead with technology and bogus stuff these days, most of humans have forgoten all about that instruction book ( Bible ) that Yeshua left us here on earth. Satan, Illuminati and the hybrids have taken good care of that, people will not know and we as human, is our responsability to know the truth about the son of our God Jehovah, Jesus Christ. We have the responsability to discover that truth that will save our lives. The bible mentions about the vast population will perish from the wrath of God cause of their ignorance and only a few of us will survive this armagedon cause we know what to do and we know what is coming.

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Thank you and God bless you brother.

Originally posted by The Djin
reply to post by BIONICLE ALEX

 

There's only one God and his name is Jehovah,

But according to yahwhe there is more than one, seems like your god contradicts you, 30 years of reading the bible ??!!!

Took me a couple of minutes to see that there is/was more than one god, maybe you should try reading the bibles again with an open mind and a little more critically.

You see thats the problem I see in others when they don't have knowledge of the truth cause of lack of research, Yahweh = Jehovah / Yeshua = Jesus Christ. These name Jehovah and Jesus is translated in english for better understanding of the bible in our language, any way that how they are called in the celestial world.

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If there is a hell god does not exist. Why would a all knowing all seeing being need hell. It is all a lie to fill the seats and keep people in line. Hell and heaven are both lies.

It is those who would be doing the same as hell to their fellow human beings, who teach it and stay steadfast in that conundrum. Flee from them as fast as you can, because "you shall know by their fruits." No modern person needs to be taught hell. The only real justice is love and forgiveness, and staying right with one another.

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I know I'm taking some of this out of a book I read but it puts this long-standing question in perspective.

The metaphor goes something like, "Would you let your child ride a bike"
Your answer of course would be "yes."
Would you guide him along and show him the basics of riding a bike....
Again "yes."
Yet you still let him ride the bike knowing he will at some point fall down, scrap his knees and hurt himself.
You don't want him to do that but we all know kids do scream "I can do it!!" And so you let them go.
You never really push him away because he believes so strongly he can make it on his own without you that HE pushes you away.
He'll fall down and you have no control over that.
In the end you still love him enough and know that he will fall down and scrap his knees. Yet, you let him ride the bike anyway.

This is what we do to God. How would you feel if your own son or daughter didn't believe you were real after you had lived and died for them?

Well, I'm gonna crash your world..( maybe not, this is my itnerpretation of things)

When I hear the word God, I think of the one creating us, making him 'the Creator'.
I think when the Creators job was done, creating us that is, some one else were put in charge, some one more Strict and didnt care for the humans...They were after all, Just workers,Slaves..

Thru time, and by the hands of his people,followers and helpers, the ones becoming the FreeMasons over the course of thousands of years, re-wrote everything, King James was an 33 degree freemason, that should totally discredit the new testament all together, masons lie and decieve..

Now , the Darwins were 32 and 33 degree masons, so , more lies , Evolution, one of satans Policies: To destroy the Bible without burning it thru the Thoery of Evolution..

Darwins and the Huxly's did inbreeding for two generations because they wanted to create the Super Humans, ended up with mutations..

Well, the point im trying to make is : God is the Evil brother of the One creating us, there for : Satan , God in the bible is Satan and thru thousands of years of Indoctrinations and MassMurder Campaigns like The Crusades and hiding of the Old Knowledge by the Burning of Alexandria library, they got rid of evidence of their Past.

Back to topic: the Creator taught the Beast (Humans) that Sex is okey and can be enjoyed and is not only for Breeding under controlled enviroments to make more slaves for Satan(God/Evil brother), God saw them 'Doing it behind the bushes in the 'garden' and he got real angry with his brother (Creator/Snake in the Tree) and tossed them all out...

They roamed the wilderness, ending up in caves here and there (Cavemen) and the Creator thought it was an good idea to teach the Beast (humans) What he knew and how things worked, like making fire etc..

One of the Beast knew all of this and were known as an Ea-Su also referred to as Iesu witch later became Jesus..

The Creator, thru manipulation and murder of his followers/people and constant rewritting of History and Bibles became the Son Of God, when he was one of the Beast with the Creators Knowledge.

Jeusu was a human with the Creators Knowledge and Satan became known later as Ra,Zeus,Nimrod etc.
( RA , this goes into RA-Legion=Religion=Legions of Ra. Amen = Amen-Ra)

This is by far near what I am trying to say, but in all simplicity : Jesus was a human with knowledge from the Creator, God is the Evil man just needing Beasts to work for him, by praising God, you are praising your Slave Master ..

I am Deist or Unitrarian, so I believe there is a Creator of this multiverse and some kind of afterlife, but I'm not a member of any kind of organized religion. As a Freethinker, I believe that people should do their own reading and reasoning on the subject of God and religion and come to their own conclusions, rather that simply accept what their parents tell them or what some organized religion affirms.

I believe in an afterlife because I had a Near Death Experience while I was in the intensive care unit of a hospital. To make a long story short, what I experienced was just sort of an instant transition out of this world and into another one. Not going through a long tunnel or seeing a white light at the end, but simply moving from this material world into another one--call it a spiritual or immaterial world: it's as good a term as any. Everything I had done in this life was reviewed and then it turned out that there were some things left undone so I had to return.

I also saw many spiritual, immaterial beings there, maybe angels would be the correct term, but they were transluscent beings. In fact, in my near death condition, I perceived that they were really all around us, especially in that intensive care unit where a number of people were obviously on the way out.

I spent another couple weeks in the hospital after that, on the cancer ward in fact because that's what they thought I had. I didn't, though. It wasn't my time to go yet, although I saw some people there who were REALLY hurting, being operated on and basically split from stem to stern, carying out for morphine in the middle of the night.

I was in very bad shape myself, with tubes stuck in both arms and in my shoulder, and it was a very big deal when the doctors would even let me get out of bed and take a few steps down the hallway, which for a while was just about all I could do. Then they actually let me eat solid food again. Like I said, I just knew this wasn't my time to go, but there were things I had to do and I was in a hurry to get out of there, at least when I was able to stand up and move around again under my own power.

Well, I finally got out of there, weighing about 40 pounds less, and I did my best to take care of the things I was supposed to deal with. Yes, the experience changed me, since I realized there were so many other dimensions than the ones we see in this material world. Nor do I have any doubt that there are many other worlds out there inhabited by various kinds of beings and civilizations, or that this multiverse is also alive in its own way.

So that's what I believe about the afterlife. It wasn't like heaven or hell, and I don't think everyone ends up in the same places when we leave this physical body behind, but there is something that survives after the body dies. The other place I experienced was a peaceful, blissful, benevolent one and even though I didn't see God, I believe that God exists. This God is more of an educator than a punisher, and there are certain lessons all of us need to learn in Earth school here--and it is a very tough school, no doubt about that.

And there are many people in this world have have been programmed in an evil way, brutalized by poor childhoods and family lives, or by bad social and economic conditions, wars and so on, which makes them act in an animalistic or sociopathic way.I'm not sure that external punishment in hell is the correct way to deal with people like those, who are basically the victims of negative programming, although I also know that they are people who simply choose to be evil out of their own free wills.

Originally posted by BIONICLE ALEX
No body finds the truth in the religion, you'll fined the truth in the bible period, but I warn you!!

The bible has been played with and is very important for you to discover which parts has been added and taken off. Trust me no religion will tell you what has been added or taken of the bible, NO RELIGION WILL TELL YOU THAT. That's why there is so many disagreements about the bible, it has been twisted on purpose by secreat societies like Iluminati, they play a huge roll in this bible conspiracy from a long time ago.

Jehovah's Witnesses messed the Bible up even more. So don't try to con people.

King James ain't perfect, but it's closer than the New World Translation. If you do even MORE thorough research, you'll realize what JW's took out and added to manipulate.

I do not mean to attack. I went to Kingdom Halls and found the truth out for myself.

That recruiting aside, the fact that you are thinking about God means that you will seek the truth for yourself and I hope that you truly are seeking and not expecting answers to fall into your lap.

None of us will truly be able to convey to you what God will if you listen and pay attention patiently.

Much love.

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Not to be nitpicky, but I hope you're not teaching your kids how to spell. Good God! (pun intended!)