20 Signs America Is No Longer Free

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
The United States was able to defeat Nazi Germany and helped bring down the USSR...

Shouldn't that say, 'The United States helped to defeat Nazi Germany and helped bring down the USSR...'

As a Brit, who's relatives were fighting, and being bombed by in their homes, the Nazi's well before the US took any notice, I find that a little annoying. 'We' beat the Nazi's in 1940 in a little thing called the Battle of Britain. When did you show up?

Sorry for the off-topic but little re-writes of history like that are annoying.

[edit on 9/2/2010 by ANOK]

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa

 

A self employed person that is homeless
will still be considered self employed and never entitled to the benefits you describe after they have lost everything.
Even if they go to library and write a blog about being homeless.
using the change they pan handled from the street to pay for their blog time at the library computer.

They wouldn't fall under Philadelphia's business license requirements unless they put advertisements on their blog, or sold products through their blog.

You know...like a business would, hence the need for a BUSINESS LICENSE.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa

Can I ask a simple question have you ever been self employed?
Do you understand tax laws with IRS for self employed
and how they overlap to State tax Laws?

Would they be interfering with commerce
because of a contract with blogs and their ISP?
So you support that ISP internet control is needed to be enforce by that State?
How would this affect interstate commerce laws with the federal government?




[edit on 2-9-2010 by Gmoneycricket]

Because my opinion is if you believe in a blogger Tax then you agree ATS needs to be shut down.
Is this what you are saying?

So much for Governments power coming from our consent to be governed. We have more problems today with tyranny than our founders ever had. The King just made one mistake he tried to disarm the pesants.

Just like it didn't fly back then it won't fly today.

Join Alarm & Muster Become a modern day alarm rider.

Be ready when the tyrants come for the guns and ammo!

A thought provoking post that made me think of how different America was when I was growing up. I'm 51 and I can remember when reporters asked the hard questions to presidents and politicians (Sam Donaldson comes to mind). I remember real investigative reporting and real news instead of the current political bias and celebrity tabloid crap. I can't imagine Walter Cronkite ever talking about something as insignificant to Americans as Paris Hilton's and Lindsey Lohan's DUI's. I can remember Political rallies never keeping protesters blocks away from political rallies and the political parties staging their audiences. Growing up I remember the media and sports organizations never rewarding poor athletic behavior, and people breaking the law. Now these bad athletes and criminals are offered TV shows, book deals, radio shows and more publicity. There are no more good role models for our youth. They see their favorite athletes, celebrities and political leaders getting rewarded for criminal behavior. I remember when both our political parties would stand behind newly elected presidents instead of trying to politically destroy them. Now both parties are still running political campaigns during a presidents term. We're slowly losing freedoms and what America used to stand for.

Originally posted by PPGrocks
I am only 32 years old but I can tell you throughout my life what I have seen it seems as though I have a nuse on my neck and every year goes by and it keeps getting tighter and tighter....all the restrictions and laws put in place to protect us just makes my skin crawl...i'm sure eventually I will know what clostraphobia or suffocation feels like...

I'm the same age as you and have the same feelings. I know for a fact that the noose(had to correct ya there, lol!) Is being tightened but most people are asleep, careless or oblivious to that fact that we are being corraled. Aside from my personal dealings with the ugly specter of racism(in my case, I'm a black male) the game has. Been changing from a color issue to a class issue(haves versus have nots) and the haves seemingly aren't bound by rules, morals or anything that would stop them from stomping on other people that just want to be free to care for themselves and their families.

Its time for a reboot.

I absolutely completely 100% agree with the OP. Kudos.

However...as correct and appropriate as this thread is, It's either preaching to the choir or falling on def ears. I wouldn't expect mass enlightenment to the issue here on ATS as you will find most agree with you.

This would be best printed up in millions of organic biodegradable paper and spread across the entirety of the US. via plane. A good ole fashioned leafing.

The internet is too common anymore to effectively get any attention then a mere gloss over. Especially with the amount of conflicting information floating around to confuse people into an "on the fence" stance on pretty much everything.

I bet if people saw this message raining down in paper leaflets all over it would turn some heads and possibly open some eyes. Especially if the media ignored it or skewed the message. People would be able to see the message for what it is regardless of media coverage.

Whoever flew that plane would prolly end up in Git Mo tho...heh

S&F

Freedom can mean different things to different people. So it would honestly depends on who you ask.

Good thread though.

[edit on 2-9-2010 by CheapShotArtist]

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Because my opinion is if you believe in a blogger Tax then you agree ATS needs to be shut down.
Is this what you are saying?

No, because none of the posters on ATS (apart from the former Doc Velocity) are making any profit from posting here. The specific law in Philadelphia only applies to bloggers who make revenue from their blogs via ads or goods.

This has been explained about three times now.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa

We agree to disagree
for the third time I can accept that.

reply to post by General.Lee


You are very wise and see what is happeing. Thank you for posting.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa


And VneZonyDostupa It appears you may be Russian
I just wanted to thank your leader during our Civil War
that tried to aid Lincoln.
Once you understand the bankers as your leaders and ours in the past did then we can see the truth.

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


Yes many of the homeless tell me they are constantly bothered by police just parking their "now homes/vehicles".

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


Yes, in America, if you are homeless, you have no rights, at least from my perspective.

reply to post by ofhumandescent


My question is about psychology. Why do so many people apply for law enforcement or corrections officers? As I have seen there are many within this career that enjoy the power that comes to torturing petty individuals. Yes, some of these individuals broke the obvious laws, but does it require the LEOs to exert so much unnecessary force. What is the most obvious is that we have a humongous force coming back from Iraq, and most of these individuals will apply for LEO positions. Scary is it not. It clearly leads to the Police State that we have all discussed about.
We are no longer free. The police force shall be considered and called "Pirates", who are only interested in collecting fines (taxes) to bring their Masters budgets into balance.
They are well armed to deal with any circumstance so beware.

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa

They wouldn't fall under Philadelphia's business license requirements unless they put advertisements on their blog, or sold products through their blog.

You know...like a business would, hence the need for a BUSINESS LICENSE.

I hate to beat a dead horse, and I could be incorrect in how the law is applied. But I would assume that anyone that sells anything on a website would have a business license, or be paying a franchise tax, or at least be paying income tax on any money earned.

So, I do not see it as a business license issue. Rather, more of a blogger tax. As someone mentioned above, I am guessing that you have never been self employeed or even in sales. If you were, you might understand that small businesses face a miriad of local, state and federal taxes and licensing fees already.

But hey, whats another $300 bucks...

The last time we went to Canada, the guard waved us through and said, "Have a swell time folks". Now you need a pass port and other papers (a friend just got back from Canada and had to show some other papers??? What other papers and why a pass port, we're neighbors for crist sake.

At least you don't need a visa. Mexicans are your neighbours too remember?

Originally posted by 5MaveN5
I hate to beat a dead horse, and I could be incorrect in how the law is applied. But I would assume that anyone that sells anything on a website would have a business license, or be paying a franchise tax, or at least be paying income tax on any money earned.

Incorrect. They were specifically taxing people using the Goodle AdSense program, which allows you to put ads on your site for free and generate a few cents per click. Some people only make a couple bucks a month, some make thousands, depending on how popular their blog it.

When you sign up for this program (I've done so in the past), all you give them is personal and bank info. You don't need (and aren't offered) any sort of business license.