Religious Rally has over 750k attendees.

I would really dread america if it became a theocracy.
Theocracy's never work.

Originally posted by saltheart foamfollower
Heck, Alveda King's segment was as inspirational as Glenn Beck's was. I leaned toward the Beck speech .....

You mean that Alveda King is a bigger phony than Glen Beck?

Fox News believes in the truth?

They could care less. Let the GOP reign.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


You and Beck are three million strong.

Big freakin' deal.

Originally posted by jimmyx
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

 

your simply lying on the attendance numbers...
and restoring honor??? from what?? you people are delusional.

Our perception is our reality, and so it goes for yours.

The problem is when two groups with different perceptions start
trying to tell the other group they have to do it their way.

We are coming close to the end game of that.

Whatever is going on now may be Delusion or Illusion, but when
the shooting starts I assure you it will be quite real, and why
I have my plans to head for the hills and bug out when it starts.

Good Luck to all the good ppl !

Originally posted by copper5661
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower

 

You and Beck are three million strong.

Big freakin' deal.

I'd raise that number to at least 14 million.

www.ammoland.com...

If you count the number that think Mr. O is a muslim or the anti christ
then it heads up north of 75 million.

VERY bad things are brewing in this nation that most are not aware of.

When the SHTF I am heading for the hills, and I recommend the same
for anyone else that will not try to impose on the ppl already there.

Good Luck to all the good ppl !

Originally posted by hippomchippo
I would really dread america if it became a theocracy.
Theocracy's never work.

The US here in the bible belt already is largely a Theocracy.

Some businesses only hire ppl from their church.

Some ppl only sold houses to certain groups.

Reverse Secularism can be found in religion and race all over the world.

It is not as in your face as some other countries, it has moderated
a great deal and it is much better than most of the Islamic nations,
especially those under Sharia Law.

Government, Religion, and Corporations are largely a pariah.

reply to post by no special characters


Let us look a little deeper.
Why would you pity these people? Are they weak minded to you?
It takes a much stronger mind to have faith, to have rules in ones life and to try and live by those rules.
Ancient scribbles? And what may I ask do you have? A Theory? A Hypothisis?
I always am amazed by people who constantly claim that spiritual people are "close minded".
What good is an open mind if your heart is closed?
It is these types of people who actually deserve pity because they have no idea what they are missing out on.
Open your heart and mind. Stand the coin on edge, let both sides see the light of day and then you will truly be able to live. It does not have to be one way or the other.
There is a differnt path althought it is narrow and easy to stray from. If you can keep to it then you will know what it means to actually live.

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Where exactly are you getting those attendance numbers?

Can you provide a link for those?

Beck, who hosted the event to "restore America's honor," estimated that between 300,000 and 500,000 people attended the event. But a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS put the audience at around 87,000.

Hardly an African American was in sight.

From Raw Story

Beck sure likes to exagerate.

reply to post by saltheart foamfollower


Well, this time some aerial photos were taken of the rally, so the propagandists are having a hard time lying when you can actually SEE the crowd.

Here you go folks, must have been like 20 people showed up. /sarcasm





Like I said about 750k people. If you go by the crowd estimates by the Obama propagandists of 1.8 million, this was not a bad turnout for not being an inauguration.

But, keep listening to the Media Matters, New York Times and other propagandist drivel.

Oh well. Asta la vista baby.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Wouldn't you rather have half a million people armed with prayer than half a million people armed with suicide bombs?? The rally hurt no one. Let 'em be.

Half a million suicide bombers marching on the capitol would send a powerful message.

Would probably accomplish more than prayer as well.



Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there were no incidents; but there is always a time where peaceful negotiation simply don't matter to those in the seats of power.

reply to post by capgrup


Alright meester smarty pants. How bout these.

The right to Life, Liberty and Property.

Specifically-

My LABOR is mine, not your's, not the government's, not the collective's.
I will do, what I decide to do, with my money created from MY LABOR.

My BODY is mine, not your's, not the government's, not the collective's.
I will make the choice of what I do with my body.

My PROPERTY is mine, it is not your's, it is not the government's, it is not the collective's.
I will NOT pay in perpetuity for the RIGHT to have property. I will not pay a tax that I have already paid on that property, where I have already paid the tax like sales taxes, THE ONLY Constitutional type tax on an individual. Including real estate taxes, including license taxation, including registration of said property, ad infinitum.

I will not PAY for the RIGHT to exercise my rights, like paying a fee to have the 2nd Amendment Right. I will not pay a fee to LAWFULLY assemble. I will not pay for ANY RIGHT LAID OUT IN THE CONSTITUTION.

That is abhorrent and directly against the Constitution. When you have to pay for a right, it is no longer a RIGHT, it is a privelage!

Did this answer your question snidely?

Saltheart;

I had no idea that asking for a simple
clarification of your stance would make me
a "smarty pants".

The Constitution does not "give" you the "Right"
to property. If that was the case then I
would agree with you and your use of the
word "collective".

Who is trying to take your Rights of Life and
Liberty? Which political party is the one who
is always trying to say what a person does. For
the most part I see the "right leaning"
politicians telling a woman what she can and
cannot do with her body. Yes, more and more
people are changing their position on Roe v Wade
so it is not as bad as it was.

I also remember a couple of years ago when the
republican controlled House and Senate stuck
their nose in the Terry Schiavo case. So I guess you would not mind the government controlling
your final decision.

I am afraid I cannot help you with your problems
of taxation. That was around long before this country
was founded.

If you do not have kids in school then maybe
one should not have to pay for another childs
education. If you do not drive you should not
have to pay for street maintenance, or the Parks
Dept. or public libraries.

Now I honestly do not know about paying for
weapons in your home. I have a few and payed
for the background check but where I live I do
not need to register them.

I whole-heartedly agree with you about paying
for your Rights. That should never happen.

reply to post by Quadrivium

Why would you pity these people? Are they weak minded to you?

Because most of them take their "holy" book as actual truth. That these books are compiled of ancient folklore and rewritten historical events is completely ignored. If you have any analytic or logical reasoning you can simply not ignore this and are rightfully pitied.

It takes a much stronger mind to have faith, to have rules in ones life and to try and live by those rules.

The mind is strong when it has the ability to analyze information and through logic understand the importance, place and implications that an event has in time. A strong mind understands it's equality of being but sees differences in ones ability to process information. This equality is the foundation of those rules you are speaking of and therefore you are implying that your mental and physical boundaries are not containable without a set of rules. This is a dependency and thus weakness.

Ancient scribbles? And what may I ask do you have? A Theory? A Hypothisis?

I have nothing that is of interest. Your god might be real but those stories and rules you are speaking of are a figment of someones imagination.

I always am amazed by people who constantly claim that spiritual people are "close minded".
What good is an open mind if your heart is closed?

I hope that I have explained what my words mean. Many minds are closed perhaps mine is equally closed as those spiritual people you seem to be defending. It is not about missing out on things but taking responsibility for your own life understanding that righteousness and good are a part of yourself and naturally embedded in your heart. Evil can overtake but that we all know already.

Originally posted by no special characters
reply to post by Quadrivium

 

Because most of them take their "holy" book as actual truth. That these books are compiled of ancient folklore and rewritten historical events is completely ignored. If you have any analytic or logical reasoning you can simply not ignore this and are rightfully pitied.

How sir do we know that the "ancient folklore and rewritten history" were not taken from the book itself? Passed down, passed around and changed enough to be recognizable but different in most ways?

The mind is strong when it has the ability to analyze information and through logic understand the importance, place and implications that an event has in time. A strong mind understands it's equality of being but sees differences in ones ability to process information. This equality is the foundation of those rules you are speaking of and therefore you are implying that your mental and physical boundaries are not containable without a set of rules. This is a dependency and thus weakness.

Laughable.
Everything, friend, works within a set of rules. We may not understand the rules or be aware of them all but they are there.

I have nothing that is of interest. Your God might be real but those stories and rules you are speaking of are a figment of someones imagination.

How do you know?
What is our imagination?
What purpose does it serve?
What if, what these people saw was something they could not yet explain? Would their imaginations then play a part to try and help them understand? Help them see the event in terms they could relate to?

I hope that I have explained what my words mean. Many minds are closed perhaps mine is equally closed as those spiritual people you seem to be defending. It is not about missing out on things but taking responsibility for your own life understanding that righteousness and good are a part of yourself and naturally embedded in your heart. Evil can overtake but that we all know already.

That is why the rules are there. To keep the evil from overtaking. And it is most definitely about missing out on things!
Open your heart as well as your mind.
You will see.

Found another picture of the rally to further the proof of my 750,000 people at the rally.

Anyone out there going to attempt to prove me wrong. Maybe comparitive pictures of other rallies or protests?

No, I thought so, here is the picture.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4d3d20d0026d.jpg[/atsimg]

reply to post by capgrup


Both parties have colluded to remove our rights.

If I do or do not have kids, being irrelevant, there is no way in God's green earth I would allow a public school to teach them the indoctrination to the idiocy they teach there. Period.

As for in the beginning, no you have it wrong, after the civil war, there was a temporary taxation to pay off the war debt, then it was eliminated.

Then after WW1 they enacted another temporary tax, that amazingly enough has become permanent, with 1000 other taxes.

Sorry about being snippy, I find those that question what rights we have given up, are being trollish. That is what I perceive on this site at least.

Some states have NO property tax, but that is changing with the federal government requiring unConstitutional mandates to the states, and then forcing them to pay for them.

If you do not know about how the Constitution protects the rights of property, you need to read it a few more times. It is obvious when you read it and just think about individual property and rights.

Think about this, where does it mention that the government can never take property without JUST compensation.

Tell me, if one's body and labor is NOT one's property, WHAT THE HELL IS PROPERTY?

Everything I brought up is a factual RIGHTS that have been either taken or converted to privilege by court and legislative machinations.

War debt is pretty much the ONLY thing the federal government can Constitutionally tax us on. PERIOD.

Everything else they are NOT allowed to tax us individually on.

Look into the indirect and direct taxation clauses.

Tell me, do you know about apportionment?

That should be enough to keep you busy for awhile.

Marhabbah, Assalaam Alaikum, MrXYZ,

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Religion shouldn't enter politics!!

Isn't Obama's support for Islam a "politically correct" exception?
What about tax dollars earmarked for construction of the ground zero victory mosque?

What about taxpayer funding for mosque reconstruction worldwide, are we supposed to naively believe that this is an acceptable expenditure of tax dollars?

What about NASA's new mission to make Muslims feel good about themselves, isn't this government support for a religion?

Why hasn't the GAO noticed these unconstitutional misappropriations of tax dollars?

Originally posted by sensfan

Beck, who hosted the event to "restore America's honor," estimated that between 300,000 and 500,000 people attended the event. But a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS put the audience at around 87,000.
Hardly an African American was in sight.

From Raw Story
Beck sure likes to exagerate.

Actually CNN - rival network of FOX where Beck works - toned down what was happening. And the absurd comment 'hardly an African American was in sight' just tells me that they either didn't watch the rally OR they did and they are just trying to pull the race card where it doesn't belong.

I saw plenty faces of color in the crowd .. and a great deal on the stage.

to CNN. Pretty darn see-through of them.