Mayan Elders view of 5-6 hrs before 2012 and just after

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My God! That video was so fake! but there are people who will still believe it

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LOL i hope that really is "enki" for her sake, otherwise that chick is completely gone.. it's not the only video either, she has a whole bunch of them up on youtube...

you just reminded me of something else.. ever hear of Ramtha?

Judy Zebra Knight (born Judith Darlene Hampton on March 16, 1946, in Roswell, New Mexico), usually known as J. Z. Knight, is an American metaphysical teacher and author and the reputed channel of a spiritual entity named Ramtha.

Knight claims to bridge ancient wisdom and the power of consciousness together with the latest discoveries in science.[citation needed] Some of the ideas are similar to those of Shirley MacLaine's,[1] which have in turn been criticized for being "kindergarten metaphysics" by mathematician and skeptic Martin Gardner.[2] Ramtha's teachings have further been criticised by scientists and skeptics around the world (see Controversy and Criticism below). Knight has appeared on US TV shows, such as Larry King[3] and The Merv Griffin Show, offering spiritual insight and inspiration to thousands of people from all over the world, including figures from the entertainment and political world such as Linda Evans and Shirley MacLaine. Knight also participated as a speaker at an international women's conferences affiliated with the United Nations.[4][citation needed]

Knight now lives in a 12,800-square-foot French-chateau-styled mansion in the outskirts of Yelm, Washington, which includes a spa, swimming pool and stables, and recruits a staff of 14.[5] A horse arena nearby has been turned into what is called The Great Hall, where she teaches courses and runs Ramtha's School of Enlightenment.[6]

Knight has been married six times (five of which ended with divorce) and is the mother of two children from her first marriage (Brandy and Christopher),[7] which was ended in divorce due to her unwillingness to continue putting up with her husband's alcoholism and infidelity

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Everytime you think you've seen it all, there's always something else out there somewhere... While it's extremely hard for me to take this kind of stuff seriously, it is really scary to think that people like this are telling the truth...

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Originally posted by above
I remember seeing a video of this drunvalo dude some time ago, where he adviced everyone to just stay inside when the shift happens, and bolt the doors and windows and ignore the chaos outside.

Now he says that one should be out in the nature, not inside an artificial house.

Kinda contradictory?

Anyhow, these sound like stories to me. After all, isn't everything on earth natural? How does a house built from stone and wood become less natural then a pyramid built from stone?

I suppose whether you are inside or outside depends on where you live.
The events will not be understood by those who haven't heard of them before (we have here)
Those people may go on the rampage, creating havoc for themselves and others - in which case, in a densly populated area, it may be better to be locked in.

On the other hand, if you have easy access to a sparsly populated natural environment, it would be better for you to be there (and a few hours notice will come in handy getting there).

I have only read parts of his book on line, and await delivery of the hard copy.
From what I read yesterday, the 'dissolving' of made made building materials will be 'the return of such materials to their basic elements'.
eg plastics will break down into the original 'ingredients' they were made of.

So if you live in a stone house with a slate roof and wooden supporting structures, it will stay intact - those houses are safe havens from the panicked population.


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Originally posted by dbloch7986
Um, yeah. Everything on Earth is from Earth.

This makes no sense at all. You're going to tell me plywood and steel are not natural? Complete crock in my opinion.

Yes they are from earth but they are not in their natural composition, i believe this is what is being reffered too. A sheet of steel, which is man made will seem like it has vanished as would plastic bags etc as they are not naturally occurring physical items.

Just my understanding of it

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What is the mechanism behind this returning to natural state? The only thing i could come up with is that time would somehow accelerate, and everything would break down just as they do naturally, but much much faster.

Therefore it is not correct to say that artificial structures will break down.

The only reason plastic would break down to oil is that it is a natural degrading process. Not because it is synthetic. Some of the most stable things ever found on earth are synthetic, and those would stay intact.


IF you are going to entertain exotic and metaphysical thoughts at least try to keep some consistency and basis in reality. Calling something artificial is as artificial as the word itself.

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Originally posted by Funshinez
From your source:

We cannot live without some form of magnetic field. If you look at major cities all over the world, you will notice that the day before, after and during the full moon there is more rape and murder going on. The reason is that the full moon tends to cause a ripple in the magnetic field of the earth, and this change is enough to take people that are emotionally near the edge over the edge. The magnetic field affects the emotional body.

There's absolutely nothing different about the relationship between the moon and our planet because of how it looks. There's more rape and murder during the night because its dark and easier to get away with. If magnetic fields could effect someones "emotional body" people would go insane inside MRI machines. This source is bunk.

Somehow i think the magnetic field of the planet EARTH is different from that of an MRI machine...honestly!!!!

We as humans have electricity going through us, we are composed mainly of water...how on earth are you to know whether the Full Moon or the Magnetic field isnt going to affect the water and electricity in us in a natural way?

Its rediculous for you to simply pass this off without any evidence what-so-ever that there may actually be a connection outwith the comprehension of the human mind

Originally posted by above
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What is the mechanism behind this returning to natural state? The only thing i could come up with is that time would somehow accelerate, and everything would break down just as they do naturally, but much much faster.

Therefore it is not correct to say that artificial structures will break down.

The only reason plastic would break down to oil is that it is a natural degrading process. Not because it is synthetic. Some of the most stable things ever found on earth are synthetic, and those would stay intact.


IF you are going to entertain exotic and metaphysical thoughts at least try to keep some consistency and basis in reality. Calling something artificial is as artificial as the word itself.

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This is based solely on your understanding of known physics, chemistry and biology. What surprises me about the majority on here is that because they cant think outside the box and open up to the possibilities that there may be things in this world that we dont know about. Things that science cannot explain.

Why oh why do humans limit themselves in thought? Put aside the scienec you think you know and try to not understand it, rather try to accept that it is inexplainable at this moment. Just like the 99.9% of things in this universe are to humans

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Wow thanks for this post. The thing is, is that we can change our reality now,we just don't know it yet, because unfortunately we are all negative until we realize that with just thinking something positive or negative it can happen. We are in charge of our own lives, and if we want to really change we can do that now, instead of waiting for the Fibonacci sequence to end. I agree with what the blog poster posted. It makes sense to me because I have read about it, and my husband and I have discussed it. I am also doing internal experiments with myself and thinking more positively about what i want in life, and hoping and doing it, and making the change. i don't want to be negative anymore, I want to be positive and happy! I am sick of the drudgery and negativity, and i want my kids to be positive, and upbeat and happy. The hard part for me, is getting rid of the negative, I need to learn to balance my ego and my inner self to see the whole picture.

I feel just by getting rid of TV and now I got rid of my kids video games, I see a major change in my own home. My kids are no longer extremely angry and negative. We bought my oldest a bike and just yesterday he made a new friend who is active and not really into video games. I think that's what my son needs an outgoing friend. My husband and my son will be doing Aikido together. Which will be a great bonding for them. I myself and changing I see a lot of new things I never saw before, my family and I are going on a lot of walks and reconnecting with nature, I feel better when we are in nature. I love walking and hiking. For the first time ever my husband and I will be doing an activity together which will be Kayaking!

Thus by changing our views and getting rid of some of the negativity (TV, Video games, negative music) we are already seeing a change in our immediate family. Also my view of friends have changed I am no longer attracted to the same people I was before. So we can change now if we really want to.

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Since all physical matter is composed of vibrations at differing rates, it is logical that the change in the vibrational rate of the Earth will affect all matter on it.

PS For a 'scienTific' understanding of Earth change I recommend this
www.tmgnow.com...

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This explanation of what will happen struck a deep chord with me on a number of levels.

Ever since I was a small child, I had a recurring dream of being trapped in a small, undreground dark cave and reaching up into the light and squeezing through to the surface.

I came up in a corn field where the colors were so brilliant that it was psychedelic. It was definitely a rebirth into a new reality.

The birth process was short but extremely uncomfortable and nearly suffocated me but every bit of physical and spiritual grime was wiped off.
Last winter, while reading the bible, the word Melchizedek also resonated powerfully. I found myself repeating it and feeling physical effects.

I felt myself growing taller. My perspective changed as if I were 8' tall.

There is no other place for me to share these bizzare experiences than ATS. For what its worth, the future is anybody's guess. All I have to go on is my gut.

I have heard our gut feelings and intuition comes from contacting our higher self. I believe that and I believe my intuition and that of others is getting stronger every week.

Originally posted by mysticalzoe

Wow thanks for this post. The thing is, is that we can change our reality now,we just don't know it yet, because unfortunately we are all negative until we realize that with just thinking something positive or negative it can happen.

I couldn't agree more. I am on the same page as you. I haven't watched TV for almost 2 years now, don't play any video games but have the neighbours and friends round to play board games! I have been practicing visualisation daily into everything I do, as we create our realities by the way in which we perceive/react to it.

The real purpose of why I posted Drunvalo's topic, was to get onto the topic that you are now referring to was to discuss this area. To show that there is a huge discussion about mass change, and every one seems to be getting stuck on the wrong details. At the end of the day, 2012 is merely an idea for me, a reminder that at a certain point, the blindfolds are pulled off, and you see who you really are, or were - and that this is all part of the game we play in order to understand ourselves. And it's a great game.

Have you ever noticed that your outlook on life is actually the reflection of your own psyche. See people that peeve you, see behavioural traits in others that you just despise? Ever realised it's just you?

I know this sounds funny to some of you but the more I notice how I create my reality, the less limits it has. I can choose how to behave, and how to react in every situation that benefits not only me but all the people around me. The more I see things that I dislike, I am identifying the areas within myself that need addressing, and I can choose to be wise and loving towards all.

We are all on the same consciousness grid in this reality, there is a shared field which all our thoughts all are going into. We are all apart of this.

The powers that be are not there because they are just power hungry, it's because of our own thoughts that are shared in this grid. The only reason there is the mass form of control, filtering of information, misinformation, cruelty towards others, no trust, (just to list a few) is because we, in our minds (not all but many of us) are out of control, we can't trust ourselves, we poison ourselves with negative emotion, we filter our own view of ourselves to be someone who we are not, we have grown away from our true nature. And this is being displayed to us on every level, be it macro, micro, whatever. Every where you look these problems exist, and for one reason. We still don't know how to understand the reflection that life is giving us; it is a gift for us to better ourselves, to understand who we are, and that which we are not.

Now we have built up such a large charge of negative emotions, that we are being slapped in the face, because as a whole society we are angry with ourselves, whether we talk about it or not, we are angry with ourselves because we feel hopeless, we don't know how to change, most of us want to change any negativity into positivity simply because life is more enjoyable when you are consistently happy.

Now we have ignored it for so long, it's time for us to do the hard yards. We have to free our body/mind/soul from the limits we have put in place, by analysing the negativity and judgements and see how it really makes us feel. We need to step into the 'other' person's shoes and see how they feel when we cast negativity and judgements towards them, we need to see how we feel when we unconsciously judge ourselves and beat ourselves up because of it. We need to really look at the darkness and accept that it IS darkness before we can choose to fill it with light.

We need to be aware of our own unconscious processes of how we perceive life. To put it simply, we need to be aware of our own awareness, and do this by looking at how and why we treat others with any form of negativity. Look at it. Accept it as it is. Be willing to change. Action the change.

I cannot believe this thread has reached 5 pages without anyone mentioning that drunvalo's not even his real name..

its Bernard Perona

Mr. Melchizedek then went on to fulfill his threat to harm me. This takes us to Mr. Melchizedek's letter to Mr. Winter and Mr. Winter's attorney, Stephen Salai, Esq., and to Meru Foundation's attorney, Brian Coyne, Esq. If anyone has questions or comments, or would like to see more evidence or whatever, please send your email to [email protected]. Yours truly, Stan Tenen Director of Research, Meru Foundation

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I regret that others have been misled by my false claims, and I strongly encourage Mr. Vincent Bridges my publisher, and Drunvalo Melchizadek, a/k/a/ Bernard Perona d/b/a Flower of Life, Inc., and all others who have repeated my false and hurtful reports, to stop doing so.

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Drunvalo Melchizedek ( born as Bernard Perona in 1941 )[1] is an author and spiritual teacher, who lives in Sedona, Arizona.[2] Drunvalo completed most of a B.S. degree in Physics and Mathematics before switching to a fine arts degree which he was awarded in 1970 [3]. His fine arts degree was from the University of California at Berkeley, obtained without finishing the course due to clerical errors by the university.

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learn to background check people before listening to them.

-B.M

I thought it was a scary read. I don't want to hallucinate for three days and life as I know it be gone when I regain consciousness. What a horrible thought

What if, at some point in time, we actually DO figure out how to time travel?

I've also wondered a lot about the idea of "extra terrestrials" coming here to Earth - this can easily go into all sorts of different ideas, for example, are the ET's from another planet, are they just humans from the future (or past), are they beings from another dimension? Who knows...

I just got done looking over your thread on the 13 dimensions, what are your ideas on this Reflections?

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Well I honestly think that some form of time travel was already played with - in the 13 dimensions post - I gave a link to a 2 hour radio show with A. Bisagio. He has talked extensively about quantum access. I won't bog down with details here as I'm sure i'll get ripped apart for saying the wrong thing, but I have had fascination with wormholes/star gates and time travel all my life. I heard a friend talking about Atlantis and stargates - if you want to know more pm me on this. My gut feeling is that it's already here, it's just a matter of security for the gov's of the world. once it's past that point we will see.

As for ET's. I believe that there are two sides to the coin, those that have their own agenda, serving their own needs and those that wish to see us graduate from kindergarten. I don't think that it would be wise to talk much more on this here.

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I got a little question about this:

It is a natural process, and when this starts to happen you should get to a place that is natural, not inside an artificial structure. You want to be out on the earth. This is the reason why very advanced civilizations built structures out of natural materials, like stone. They make it through the dimensional changes and remain there.

Define "natural"???

My house is made out of wood...is that not "natural"?

It is also made out of concrete...which is just crushed up stone really...is that "natural"? How about a brick house?

Will beehives dissapear...are they not "natural"?


I just have a problem with this word "natural" and how it is being used. Is stone the only "natural" material? Or is wood? Metal? Glass? They all come from the Earth in some way. So how is one thing "natural" and one thing not???

Originally posted by bjsmi2
Very good post ! Very good information ! Even though this information has been available for some time it still is good to see it being put out there. Is it not possible to understand the way modern humanity is on the road of destruction. The way humans are multiplying at an unsustainable rate. The planet is being raped for its goodness. Most humans have forgotton the way of life and to live in balance with earth. The Mayan calendar poses many questions... A lot of folk wish to categorize it in the "Y2K" basket and wish to debunk anything regarding it. Never the less much of the tech from the Mayans we use on a daily basis but the question of the end of the calendar still hangs over everyones head. A new level of enlightenment and conscience is looming for all humans like it or not...

I don't think they found a rock big enough to continue to make the calendar. What most humans for some reason don't understand is in a given space you are bound to run out of space. So when you paint your calendar on a rock you are limited and bound to run out of space. Simple as that it's the hardest thing for the human mind to understand.

2012 will be a great year. We will wake up, and do our daily routine. Then you'll go to sleep, and wake up again. And be VERY disappointed because you've waited to be let down by some "crazy" people getting a little upset over the fact that the rock didn't haven enough space. And then you'll sign onto the internet and read that 2020 is the year. Then you'll wait till 2020 comes around and then it's 2040. It never ends. It's an on going cycle of misleading people for thousands of years.

No one reads just like the politicians in our government who vote on

unread Bills that are presented and no one has asked the question

where should I be when the Mayan calender ends. Only Reflections will

be one of the selected few to know about what I call the Ra Code and

coordinates of where to go right before the time comes. ^Y^


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So if all unnatural materials are going to disappear, that means everyone is going to end up naked right? Woohoo! Seriously, that would also have to apply. Since everything we rely on to survive is made of artificial materials, most of the population would most likely die.

Anyway, what's going to happen to all these people, such as Drunvalo and Wilcock when nothing happens? They only have 2 years left to make as much money as they can. They probably feel that they will be making increasingly more money as the date approaches since everyone will be getting tense and wanting to know what's going to happen. Maybe their plan is to make lots of money and then go into hiding right before the date gets here, which will most likely prove their deceptiveness. They'll be gone though, with a fat wad of cash. You only have 2 years left. I suppose a lot of money will be made between now and then though.

Oh Please Give Me A Break !!! This Is All Bull # !!!! Instead Of Reading This Read The Bible ! It's More Accurate Than Anything The Myans Could Have Ever Predicted !!

It is postulated that the 12th dimension is also referred to as Melchizedek consciousness - more on that here - 13 Dimensions and the shift

Melchizedek Priesthood, Its a Mormon thing. And I think Joseph Smith and his goons based their religion on freemasonry. The Temple ceremonies are very similar. 12 steps then enlightenment. Sounds like we got a plagiarizer possibly.