My friend changed history

One of my "close ex-military friends" who now works with the CIA informed me of something he was chosen to do, and, in his words, "That NOBODY can prove, but will save us - forever." (this is what he said he told me before he left, anyway)...

... and because I don't remember any of what happened when he supposedly left, I'm going to tell it as he explained it to me:

He had become a member of the WOL or "World Obstruction League". Haha, yes, I know it sound so evil, like it's a secret society full of the powers that be. That's not how he explained it though...

It was basically a think-tank and covert operation aimed at improving the environment and living conditions for people in the sectors that they oversaw. There weren't many mind you, as most of the non-oversight areas in the country were drug infested, prostitute ridden cesspools full of unemployed people and people trying to get the last of whatever handouts that the dilapidated federal government could give.

He said that he and I were actually head-to-head candidates for the new experiment. While it was only an experiment, it required 6 years of continuous training and preparation for what was to come AFTER the experiment. Anyway, they ended up choosing him he said, "Because you told me that I had a better chance of succeeding." Ok, I thought, I'm not really that kind of person, but whatever.

Anyway, when talking to him yesterday, in a bar... as he had just been back a day, his story as that he was to be the sole operative in a time-traveling mission to change the past.

The destination was 1963 and the mission was to stop the global nuclear crisis that had taken place which killed over 50% of the earth's population and left vast areas of land uninhabitable. He said that only one operative was needed since this operative would effectively know the future in that time, and that the think-tank gave the mission a startling 92% success rate based on knowledge of the past/future.

He didn't go into much detail about what he did exactly, but that it involved infiltration, bribery, and only a few assassinations of virtually unknown characters, but characters none the less that acted as catalysts to the fallout. He wouldn't respond to questions about the killing of more famous people - although he did mention that it could have bad consequences.

Anyway, that's my story. I went to the bar yesterday and this strange fellow walked in, sat down next to me... and that's what he told me... I had never met him before.

I informed him that while I thought his story was interesting and thought-provoking, I did not know him. I had never even seen him before. He just smiled, shook my hand and said, "It was an expected possibility... nevertheless, I'll watch over you old friend".

But do you want to know the strangest part of this whole story? This morning, he just moved in next door.

That's amazing. I'm totally doing that to the next drunk I talk to at the bar!

JK

It'd be really cool if it was true, but I just don't buy into traveling to the past to change the present (future). Why do it? It wouldn't change the present time that the person was sent back from. It would just branch off into another reality. My thoughts anyway. Good story though, write a book. I'll buy it.

You lie!


Seriously though you making this up?

This is an absolute coincidence because my neighbor was just telling me that his next assignment is to travel back to 1963 and kill some time traveller who is supposed to stop a nuclear war!

What are the odds?

your story is confusing..
close friend, who you just met, went to 1963 to stop nuclear fallout that never took place in 1963 anyway?

is he a close friend? or someone you just met? now hes your new neighbor?

I think you should re write and make clear who is speaking when.

Well, this one time at band camp...

OP - could you err, maybe speak to your neighbour again and get him to elaborate a bit on this?

The thing that I never understand about these stories of people changing history is that how come when the person succeeds in changing it do they still remember the original time line in the first place.
This person is effectively remembering things that never happened, and I am assuming that he doesn't somehow live outside of the normal laws of cause and effect.

If this had happened wouldn't the drunk in the bar have been instantly transported back into the future with no memory of what happened and leading the life that he would have lead if he had never gone back in time in the first place and if the nuclear thing had never happened?

Time travel is confusing

[edit on 27-8-2010 by davespanners]

Originally posted by Myendica
your story is confusing..
close friend, who you just met, went to 1963 to stop nuclear fallout that never took place in 1963 anyway?

is he a close friend? or someone you just met? now hes your new neighbor?

I think you should re write and make clear who is speaking when.

I agree, couldn't really make head nor tail of what was going on. Get your neighbor on ATS to give us his account of saving the world. It sounds like a story and not a very good one at that

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time travel isnt confusing, the bogus stories of it are. I know time is an illusion, and so you can travel in it, but you are right, comprehension would be wierd. Though I think you would remember all things whether it is reality or not.

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Not if there are multiple dimensions, in stopping the disaster a new timeline would have branched off so his actions wouldnt have actually changed the future for him

Originally posted by moosevernel
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Not if there are multiple dimensions, in stopping the disaster a new timeline would have branched off so his actions wouldnt have actually changed the future for him

I find that even more confusing.

So the original set of people from the post apocalyptic nuclear hell future still live in a post apocalyptic nuclear hell in their dimension? and so do the CIA operatives that sent him? If so whats in it for them to try and change it? Or is everyone in the old time line realigned to the new one instantly with no memory of it, or was that time line destroyed when the new one was started.

What happened to the other guy in the bar that is born in the new time line that didn't get sent back in time, are there now two copies of this guy running around.

Also, when the guy reports back to his boss and says "I've done the job, now give me my pay" wouldn't his boss say "what job? who the hell are you?"

Originally posted by RestingInPieces


Anyway, when talking to him yesterday, in a bar...

Oh, good Lord, I hope you took his time machine keys away from him!

Nothing like a drunken time traveler, passing the speed of light, to really wreak havoc on our dimension!

I really enjoyed your story!

Did you guys talk to each other when he moved in? Were you like "yo homey whats good?" Or was it kind of creepy trying to pretend like you didn't see each other?

Are you Ex military? How could you have been head to head with him on this possible assignment? Do you have a family? Are you married? Children? Does this really sound like something that might have possibly been offered to you?

I am willing to believe this story, as it happened. Not necessarily saying I believe your friend but I could buy the rest possibly.

you do realize that this guy, by changing the history of the earth, would change the whole universe?

A few questions OP:

1. What did your neighbor wear as he walked around 1963?
2. What did he eat while living in 1963?
3. What did he drink while living in 1963?
4. How did he speak while living in 1963?
5. What kind of transport did he use while in 1963?

I've got some other things to ask you concerning the time-travel aspects, but I imagine your "friend" who you never knew before a day or so ago would not be as inclined to speak about whatever kind of machine sent him back in time.

So, I'll suffice with just these right now.

~ Wandering Scribe

Originally posted by Myendica
your story is confusing..
close friend, who you just met, went to 1963 to stop nuclear fallout that never took place in 1963 anyway?

is he a close friend? or someone you just met? now hes your new neighbor?

I think you should re write and make clear who is speaking when.

ahhh the simple minded who choose to make it look as though others are dumb.

Let me break it down for you spedy...

This used to be a close friend. one who he used to know. but because of the whole secretive part of this his memory of him was erased or tampered with.

this friend shows up and tells him who he is. then moves in next door a couple days later.


So basically this guy tells him this story. then moves next door to him.

If it's true, like the guy said, we would never know. only higher ups in WOL would , if it actually does exist.


I'm not sure I believe but I definitely can say that I don't " Don't believe it"....

Originally posted by davespanners
The thing that I never understand about these stories of people changing history is that how come when the person succeeds in changing it do they still remember the original time line in the first place.
This person is effectively remembering things that never happened, and I am assuming that he doesn't somehow live outside of the normal laws of cause and effect.

If this had happened wouldn't the drunk in the bar have been instantly transported back into the future with no memory of what happened and leading the life that he would have lead if he had never gone back in time in the first place and if the nuclear thing had never happened?

Time travel is confusing

[edit on 27-8-2010 by davespanners]

Because it's not their exact past or future...just one that is 99.9999999999999999% like theirs, that also happens to be on some similar sort of plane in space where they can interact.

obviously......

**looks at some of the posts and face palms** Apparently the flouride is working.

Nice story OP, when do we get the next chapter?

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That's amazing. I'm totally doing that to the next drunk I talk to at the bar!

JK

AWESOME! Me Too!!

Next time a bum approaches me at a gas pump! I'm going to grab them and tell them I've been searching for years, but I never thought I would see them again, and then give them this story.

How about someone that thinks they know you at a party. Act very concerned, tell them to stop, get fidgety, then take them in a backroom and remind them that you are not supposed to talk about "the experiment!" And then hit them with this!

What an awesome idea!

As I was born in 1963, just ** days after President Kennedy was assassinated, I can clearly see how this explains why I have no Destiny in this life, why I have never fit in, and why I am not suppose to be here.

Thank your new neighbor because now I am going to sue him for causing me a lifetime's worth of therapy! LOL

Thankfully he can go back and make sure that in the future (today) that Federal Employees make more than Civilians. OMG!@!!!!