Talk On Cell Phone? = GO TO JAIL AND GET FACE BEAT IN

reply to post by mnemeth1


I'm a innocent until proven guilty. sorry But I'm an optimist the glass is half full until you prove to me its half empty.

So the DA dropped the charges. And he was in fact guilty. I'm just saying based on video only evidence its hard to judge.

Originally posted by MessOnTheFED!
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

mnemeth1... Why do you even bother to make threads? All you do is spout out how you hate authority and push your anarchy agenda. You are all talk and no listen. If someone does happen to go against what you say, you just spout out the same crap as you did before, just worded a little differently.

Grow up.

You DONT know what was being said END OF STORY. The man could have been threatening the officers in a nice mannor or anything. YOU DONT KNOW. You think you do but you dont. Last time i checked you are held accountable for what comes out of your mouth.

I know that cops are over agressive sometimes. Ive seen it personally. Im not defending the cops or anything like that. Just pointing out your unwillingness to hold a civil conversation.

Thank you

MOTF!

I'm a proud anarchist, because anarchy means peace - so I hope you bring that up in every thread. It is a badge of honor that I am courageous enough to disavow the need for a State to offer me "protection"

I don't need this kind of protection.

Incidentally, his buddy was violently arrested for using the womens restroom. Clearly we need to be protected from womens restroom pee-ers.

A fine use of my tax dollars to be sure.

Of course, the womens restroom peeing was stopped by PRIVATE security, who didn't manage to beat the guys face in.


[edit on 19-8-2010 by mnemeth1]

Actually, The guy on the phone was talking with his father who is also a police officer, in another jurisdiction.

I'm from the Denver area and this video is getting alot of air time, as well as the fellow walking the dog video, also a Denver police dept screw up.

www.cbsnews.com...

above link for reference...

reply to post by deadbang


hahaha I love your sig dude.

Its so fitting for this thread.

For anyone that hasn't seen the full story, it was covered a while ago on ABC. They have interviews from the "manager of safety" and also from the guy who had his face beat in.

The guy was apparently worried and was on the phone with his father who is a Deputy, and who states what he heard over the phone.

Apparently they settled for 17,000 but the cops were not held accountable for their atrocious actions. Disgusting really. They even tried to keep the boy's parents without any information to avoid anyone seeing how bad they beat his face in.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

I'm a innocent until proven guilty. sorry But I'm an optimist the glass is half full until you prove to me its half empty.

So the DA dropped the charges. And he was in fact guilty. I'm just saying based on video only evidence its hard to judge.

You do realize that no one in this country is allowed to attack someone unprovoked? Under no circumstance is anyone ever in the legal right to strike someone in the face repeatedly, with fist and weapon, because of what they said.

You can't do it, especially a police officer. A cop is not allowed to do this.

Your completely stupid argument is just that, completely stupid. It matters not what the guy said, he made no advances whatsoever to suggest he would assault the officer. The officer jumped up and brutally, and I mean brutally assaulted the guy. It was pretty bad, considering.

The guy didn't even get violent as the officer was assaulting him. He literally just stood there and took it.

Yeah, such behavior of someone who "could have said something". What that "something" is, is open to wild speculation.

I'm convinced there are a few trolls in here. There cannot be any possible reasoning for this nonsense.

The guy on the cellphone never broke a single f'ing law, period. End of discussion.

[edit on 19-8-2010 by SyphonX]

reply to post by blue robbie


Yeah its outrageous.

This is what happens when there is no accountability to the markets.

If those cops were private security guards, they would have been fired so fast it would make your head spin - but since government owns the courts, owns the DA, owns the cops, and owns the prisons, police are literally allowed to get away with murder and not be held accountable.

A private security firm would be worried sick right now about law suits and losing customers over such an incident - police departments don't give a flying crap about law suits or losing customers because they get their pay through violent looting.


[edit on 20-8-2010 by alien]

He knocked him unconscious, cut open his face in several locations requiring stitches, and even broke some of his teeth.

Ron Perea (Manager of Safety):
"When you look at it in it's entirety (the video), and see what occurred.. I don't believe the officers acted .. ugh.. excessively."

In the officer's report, he stated that he took the guy down because he had turned to his left and tried to hit him with his right fist.

Look at the video.

He is holding a cellphone to his right ear with his right hand right up to the moment he is struck. His left hand is in his pocket. He is turning away from the officer trying to avoid contact.

Everyone involved in the investigation is completely guilty of perjury. For officials in law enforcement, this is a wholly serious offense. It's more serious than the actual assault. Yet nothing is being done about it.

Ron Perea should be fired, jailed for the maximum sentence and disbarred from any public government positions. Same for the police officers involved in the completely half assed cover-up.

This is completely indicative of a criminal organization and racket syndicate. The untouchables. Beating the piss out of people for no reason, looting property, completely immune to criminal charges. The new Cosa Nostra.

[edit on 19-8-2010 by SyphonX]

reply to post by SyphonX

Ron Perea should be fired,

I second that motion.

Not only should those cops be fired, they should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

The camera operator should be charged with conspiracy as well for deliberately moving the camera out of position in an attempt to cover up what was happening.

Firing is not good enough.

I want them behind bars.

Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

 

The thing is we don't know, what is said for all we know he could be threatening to hang up the phone and beat the cop up. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know cops personally and they get a lot of crap from people and its a tough job.

You're crazy. The guy is clearly immersed in his conversation, and is still involved in the conversation as he tries to shake free his assailant. You'll notice that you can see the beating takes quite a while, and you can make out several strikes, and when the camera pans back in, the man has had the poop beaten out of him, the amount of lifelessness in his hands indicates he is barely conscious. He is then escorted to a squad car rather harshly, and is then threatened again before the cops SLAMS the door shut, so hard that it doesn't catch the first time. Did you see the size of that cop? Do you think the force used was necessary, regardless of threats (supposing in a rather fallacious manner that any force other than restraint was necessary, considering the number of officers at hand). No, they were agitated by his presence and decided to have some fun. There is no mistaking that unless you have some predisposition to police and are trying to protect their tyranny. The cops have a tough job, but your scope fails to encapsulate the agenda at hand, and the sort of people chosen and who choose to be cops. We are slaves, it is unfortunate that you cannot recognise that, or choose to ignore it. There are obviously many tiers to the conspiracy you have yet to unravel.

People are more concerned about 'terrorism' abroad than police brutality, which is on their front door step. Talk about denial.

Something to think about:

We know voucher programs for schools works well in other countries.

Money is pooled through the tax system and vouchers are issued to parents, which they then use to put their kids through a school of their choosing.

I wonder what life would be like if we did the same thing for "peace officers".

Money is pooled and distributed, then people are allowed to chose which security service they would subscribe to.

Hell, we could run all of government on a voucher system.

Think about what this police department would be doing right now if their customers could up and leave them for a different police department.

There would be so much public butt kissing it would be outrageous.



[edit on 19-8-2010 by mnemeth1]

reply to post by purplemonkeydishwasher


Didnt you know that police brutality at home helps fight terrorism abroad?

Originally posted by Slippery Jim
mnemeth1,

You have no idea what he was saying to the person on the other end of the phone. He was cleaarly in a highly agitated state and may have been verbally assaulting the police, maybe even issuing threats of violence.

Please don't make judgements without knowing all the facts.

Regards,
Jim.

So how does that justify the face beating?

Couldn't they have just taken him down?

It's a man advantage in favor of officers anyways.

A weapons advantage too.

They don't fear him....they despise him..

at least those few officers.

The fact that there is no audio in the video is a moot point to me.

What could the victim have said that would justify that kind of force?

NWA and Ice-T said it best.

[edit on 19-8-2010 by JohnnyTHSeed]

Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by blue robbie

 

If those cops were private security guards, they would have been fired so fast it would make your head spin - but since government owns the courts, owns the DA, owns the cops, and owns the prisons, police are literally allowed to get away with murder and not be held accountable.

A private security firm would be worried sick right now about law suits and losing customers over such an incident - police departments don't give a flying crap about law suits or losing customers because they get their pay through violent looting.

Actually, this is false.
History has shown otherwise which is why police forces were nationalized.

The reason we have the abuses you see today is because of capitalism. Because of class stratification. You can not solve these issues by creating a "freer market".

Already posted here

reply to post by Slippery Jim


Whether he was verbally assaulting the police or not, the police officer was completely out of order.

Police are only allowed to use force if they or another are at personal physical risk - ie. at risk of being shot or physically agressed, unless they are resisting arrest.

It is obvious from the video that whatever the guy was saying on the phone, the policeman was in NO immediate danger, nor was anyone else.

Use of force in this way is absolutely criminal. The officer is guilty of assault. Even when he had grabbed him it wasn't in any way a controlled use of force to restrain - he slammed him to the ground for no good reason. The guy didn't even have time to react, let alone be a danger to the officer.





[edit on 19-8-2010 by wcitizen]

Does not matter what the man was saying on the phone the police had no right to touch him and beat him.

You can verbally abuse a cop and he can not do nothing to you and its called FREEDOM of Speech. Trust me I said it all to them.

Just more dirty pigs think they can do what they want and he even slammed the door on the man looked like his arm he can not do that for any reason what so ever.

The man should take the video to a lawler and sue the hell out of the city them the cop will be fired.

The guy already has money in the bank with this video the city is screwed.

Originally posted by AdAbsurdum

Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by blue robbie

 

If those cops were private security guards, they would have been fired so fast it would make your head spin - but since government owns the courts, owns the DA, owns the cops, and owns the prisons, police are literally allowed to get away with murder and not be held accountable.

A private security firm would be worried sick right now about law suits and losing customers over such an incident - police departments don't give a flying crap about law suits or losing customers because they get their pay through violent looting.

Actually, this is false.
History has shown otherwise which is why police forces were nationalized.

The reason we have the abuses you see today is because of capitalism. Because of class stratification. You can not solve these issues by creating a "freer market".

The thing is though, these are private security guards - because they are the employees of America Inc - which is a corporation run by the banks and the oligarchs. So at the end of the day, there is nothing really national or federal. Their allegiance is to their bosses - the CEO's of America Inc, who are, themselves, a bunch of criminal thugs.