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Safety Manager Ron Perea, who oversees the police department and has final say on discipline, has rejected Rosenthal’s argument that the officers should be fired.
“The video, when viewed in isolation, seems to portray the subject officers as overly aggressive for the situation,” Perea said. “There is no audio and it appears that there is a man on the phone ignoring but not being overtly aggressive towards the officer when the officer takes him down. The video, however, does not tell the entire story.”
Originally posted by Slippery Jim
mnemeth1,
You have no idea what he was saying to the person on the other end of the phone. He was cleaarly in a highly agitated state and may have been verbally assaulting the police, maybe even issuing threats of violence.
Please don't make judgements without knowing all the facts.
Regards,
Jim.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Of course, we shouldn't pass judgement on a clear video that shows a man talking on a phone getting his face beat in.
We need more facts.
Obviously the slave was a violent threat to the officers.
He was probably armed with a fully automatic M60 machine gun in his pants.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Xiamara
Since when is it okay to beat the crap out of a person then detain them for "verbal abuse?"
I'd like to see a non-cop pull off that one in a court of law claiming self-defense of verbal abuse.
Watch those sticks and stones around cops. They be sensateeve.
Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
The thing is we don't know, what is said for all we know he could be threatening to hang up the phone and beat the cop up. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know cops personally and they get a lot of crap from people and its a tough job.
Originally posted by Slippery Jim
Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
The thing is we don't know, what is said for all we know he could be threatening to hang up the phone and beat the cop up. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know cops personally and they get a lot of crap from people and its a tough job.
Exactly!
And I want to marry your avatar.
Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by Slippery Jim
Exactly I agree with you Jim. It doesn't make any sense what so ever he could certainly loose his job over this so why do it?
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Xiamara
"verbally assaulting"
as if words hurt people and justify an armed attack with a metal pole.
I'm sure the guy stopped his conversation on his cell phone so he could "verbally assault" the officer.j
Now you're just being obtuse. I can't see any point in continuing this discussion as you clearly have issues with the police and simply won't listen to a reasoned argument.
Regards,
Jim.
news flash, the constitution protects your right to "verbally assault" officers, who must conduct themselves professionally at all times no matter what is said to them.
[edit on 19-8-2010 by mnemeth1]
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Slippery Jim
Foul language, insults and even verbal threats do not justify a physical assault.