Palin defends Dr. Laura over N-word rant: ‘Be thankful for her voice, America’

reply to post by SeventhSeal


Indeed. White people don't call each other "honky cracker."

When a black person says I "don't get it", it generally means just that they don't want to argue what I'm saying.

Originally posted by hdutton
I really don't know why so many people seem so determined to keep beating up the mentally deficient. I don't think I should call out their names, but I should not have to either.

The main problem with race relations here in the U S of A is our reluctance to let go of one of the last wedges we have which can be driven between us all.

I was once told that there is the human race and . . . ahhhh. I can't remember hearing about another race, unless you can find a neaderthal. I am not real sure about that either.

My point being that I firmly believe we as a people could get along a lot better if we would learn to not only laugh at each other but also ourselves.

We were all born, or made, a little short of perfect, so why don't we just drop all the nonsense facades and recongnize that life is easy if you let it be.

I agree with you 95%...the part about life being easy I dont agree...

reply to post by oniongrass


When a black person says I "don't get it", it generally means just that they don't want to argue what I'm saying.
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Amazing. Simply astounding.
I'm simply..speechless, no comment is required.

Originally posted by StumpDrummer
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my god at the sensorship on ats it blows my mind literally

so much for free speach ....I also wonder what they will come up with for the "racist word" cracker or whitey i bet they arnt sensored

Censorship *** Not SENSORSHIP.

Also, racist remarks aren't allowed on the forum. Thank you.

Just a question. How does the first amendment apply?

She resigned, she was not prosecuted by the Gov.

Her first amendment rights are intact. She said what she said...took heat from folks excercising thier 1st amendment rights and then resigned.

Not sure what the whole 1st amen debate is about?

I won't miss her voice.

The lady was condescending, and loved to beat people over the head with her morals and notions of family values.

Meanwhile her son was investigated for posting psychopathic disturbing material on a Facebook page that depicted cartoon images of rape, murder, torture, child molestation, Iraqi abuse, and bragged about being a cold-blooded killer, plus she refused to speak to her mother for decades and when she finally died, the woman's body lay in her condo for two whole months.

Yeah, I am going to listen to her about "family values" and what I should be doing.

The contention that once we got a Black president racism suddenly evaporated is also absurd.

Did all the hate groups in America suddenly disband?
No more neo Nazis in America?

Antisemitism no longer exists?

By that logic shouldn't racism have ended when we got our first black Senator in 1870?

Last time I checked Obama wasn't unanimously voted in by the entire country and according to Dr. Laura (and a ton of other people) NOTHING is racist.

Goodbye and take Palin with you into obscurity.

- Lee


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Originally posted by oniongrass
Read "Time on the Cross." Africans brought over from Africa were already slaves or prisoners there, and their descendents here have achieved a higher standard of living than their captors' descendants now have in Africa.

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What does this have to do with anything? Are some some how hinting that a "thank you" is in order? Are you justifying slavery? Are you justifying years of mistreatment after slavery? Are saying that it's alright that Americans didn't have higher standards?

Ack!!! I can't believe I (sort of) agree with Palin. I don't give a flying crap what Dr. Laura said. People can have their opinions about it. WHAT I TAKE ISSUE WITH is how Dr. Laura is playing the all to popular "First Amendment Victim".

Can anyone please explain to me how she had her first amendment rights taken away from her? Please?

Here is a great article from NPR: Good News, Dr. Laura. Your First Amendment Rights Are Still Yours.

As you may have read, in announcing that she will abandon her radio show, Schlessinger said on Larry King Live, "I want my First Amendment rights back, which I can't have on radio without the threat of attack on my advertisers and stations." (Emphasis added.)

But the First Amendment doesn't guarantee that speaking your mind will have no economic consequences.

That's the nature of the business, Dr. Laura. You know better.

This thread is turning into the ridiculous. I want to talk about the scholarship thing then get on topic. There are 2 privately funded white only scholarships and they are both $250 and were meant to take a shot at the minority only scholarships. There are quite literaly millions of black and hispanic only scholarships available which are privately funded and not sponsored by a particular school. The only legitimate white only scholarships available are at historically black colleges.

The funny thing is when the 2 private white $250 scholarships were created there was a huge outcry of racism!

Having race associated with any scholarship is ridiculous. Let's provide them to the students who deserve them, white brown, black or blue. Let's make sure the kids who deserve the education get it.

No on to Dr. Laura. What Dr. Laura did was not racist at all. She did not make a derogatory comment about blacks. She did not express a percieved superiority to blacks. She simply said if you listen to black comics on HBO, all you here is N&$$#r N&%$$#r N%$$#R.

Someone please tell me how that is racist? Can you find a black radio host fired for saying redneck or cracka? No, you can't. But you can find hosts fired for saying nigg$r or fagg%t. But not cracka or redneck. Funny how I can type cracka and redneck and how many times you see them in threads on this site but if I drop those other 2 words I'll catch a warning.

What's the difference? THey are all derrogatory terms about another group? The difference is the double standard. And the application of the word. How often do you hear white people say this when speaking to each other? Hey my redneck/cracka/honkey, wassup? You don't. How often do you hear the n word dropped amongst blacks? Fairly frequently in music, tv, conversation.

Laura used the word describing what you hear during a tv program. She in no way used that term to describe anyone.

So please explain how that is racist? And please don't say because she's white. If you decide that a word may be used by one race and not another then you fit the definition of a racist. So try to find an argument that is intelligent. There isn't one so don't bother.

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Uhhhh...I resoundingly second that! She did not lose any rights. She lost sponsors. That's the name of the game.

Originally posted by oniongrass
reply to post by SeventhSeal

 

Indeed. White people don't call each other "honky cracker."

When a black person says I "don't get it", it generally means just that they don't want to argue what I'm saying.

The N-word is not alright for anybody to use. It has a nasty history and should eventually die along with racism.

Given that we can all agree that it's not the best choice of word for anybody to use; when did that person is doing "x," so I should be able to as well become an acceptable argument?

Alright, listen, here's all you need to know about the situation.


You're entitled to your rights and your freedom of speech. No one should stop you. Hell, it's the first amendment. There's no arguing that at all.

However, you also have a right to lead a Neo Nazi rally through a Jewish Neighborhood....which has happened before if some of you are actually familiar with history.

You have freedom of speech....does that mean you should take advantage and abuse it?

The woman should've known better.

Originally posted by Styki

Originally posted by oniongrass
reply to post by SeventhSeal

 

when did that person is doing "x," so I should be able to as well become an acceptable argument?

It is an acceptable argument when the person doing 'x' tells the other person they can't do 'x'. It would be an unacceptable argument if one were talking of something like murder or theft. Just because someone commits murder/theft does not make it okay for others to do it for obvious reasons. But how did we get to the 'n' word being offensive unless a person the 'n' word (disgustingly) refers to uses it?

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There is a major difference here.



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Originally posted by SeventhSeal
reply to post by Styki

 

She'll defend someone saying the N word over and over on the radio to attract her target audience.

Doesn't that mean her fans are....bigots?

They certainly are and make NO secret about it.

Does this mean she is becoming a white Al Sharpton?

reply to post by SeventhSeal


I don't think it is even a matter of her abusing it. I really don't think there is such a thing as abusing your right to free speech to be honest but that is another thread.

This is a matter of her saying something and her sponsor's pulling their support which was well within their rights to do. She could have said chocolate ice cream is disgusting and lost some sponsor's. No one would say she lost her first amendment rights.

I see a woman who called in about a personal problem and as soon as Dr. Laura heard the woman say she was black, Dr. Laura used this caller as an excuse to rant and totally ignored the woman's problem. Dr. Laura was baiting this woman, and took this opportunity to try to drive home "I'm right, you're wrong" and I'm going to cut you off so you can't interrupt me while go off on a tangent.

She does this all the time to people who call in, doesn't matter what the topic is. She's right, everyone else is wrong, and she spends ample time letting everyone know how she feels about a certain subject.

I really hate Dr. Laura. She is so rude and obnoxious.

reply to post by virraszto


I suppose that is a valid argument that not many bring up. Would she have done the same thing if the caller was her white husband?

Another point largely ignored is that Dr. Laura not only said the 'n' word (which I don't have a problem with) but she also told the woman that she should not have married outside of her race if she couldn't hack it. THAT was the offensive part that made my jaw drop.

reply to post by nunya13



Eh, I believe you can abuse your freedom of speech when you say the N word about 5 times on the radio to make a "point."

Same with having a Anti Semite rally in a Jewish neighborhood. Some things you just don't say or do. It's common sense and respect for others.

reply to post by whaaa


Exactly. And that ONE word has come to represent and embody that shameful period in our history, and every American knows that.

And to hear "it's just a word", and why should I be held accountable for something that happened long ago", is so vastly naive. It's not about you. It's way past you, and it's not just a word. It's a word that packs a very powerful punch. There is a very long, very powerful, emotional and horrific story which people hear when they hear that ONE word.

Do black guys call one another that, and use it in their music? Maybe they do. But it's like some kind of dark sarcasm; some inside joke they make that white people aren't privy to.

I get it. It's not our's to criticize, minimize, or join in with.

reply to post by OldDragger


The person who rolled his eyes over a comment about exactly what I'm going on about.

It was addressed by someone several pages back first, and it angered me.

Your reaction is exactly the attitude that pisses me off. Yeah, boo hoo. It doesn't matter.

Thanks for proving my point.

It only matters if you're a minority and on the receiving end.

I should also add that putting words in my mouth that I never actually said or even implied is a terrible way to boost your argument.

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And to the OP, my thoughts can be summed up by stating that Mrs. Palin needs to have her Twitter account obliterated. It's one silly one-liner after another from her.

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