Frederick Valentich Update: A real bizarre development

reply to post by Hedera Helix


Actually, its how it is on the website when I copy/pasted. I dunno why the website has it like that for however. Odd.

reply to post by AdAstra


UFO = Unidentified Flying Object, not alien spacecraft.

It is irrelevant that he was a trained pilot, yes they have good eyes and vision however they are not prone to seeing this erroneously. You can not rule out anything because he said it was not an aircraft, so that's all we know. And by it being said it's not an aircraft, it is less likely that it was another piloted vessel but an object flying in the vicinity flapping along the plane before he crashed. Fight or flight syndrome kicks in, he becomes delusional and sees things in a panicked frame of mind. He first identified it as a UFO, so we know it was not identified correctly so to make any assumption is ridiculous. He secondly then changed his mind and stated that it was not an aircraft. Now what in the story makes you think it is an alien spacecraft? He said already it wasn't an aircraft, and he was flying in he air (not space) why would he identify any craft in the air as a "space craft" ? That wouldn't make sense.

'Why is the story bizarre? isnt it logical and clear what went on?

reply to post by Archirvion


I agree.

But him supposedly showing back up a few years later is what makes it "bizarre"

reply to post by Archirvion

so what happened archirviron,was it an Alien or did he just hallucinate,crash and completely vanish

To people saying this is all made up,do some research on it,I think the second part ofthe story is a complete rubbish fabrication which takes away from the event which did happen

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reply to post by eyeswilldeceive


There was no crash site. A rescue team was sent out and did a thorough search and found nothing.

let me guess he died from radation poisioning? organs shut down one at a time, interal bleeding...perhaps his heart?

this device is there a picture of even a drawing of what it looked like? something about this story seems too far fetched to be a hoax, through space and time and horrible expirements.

I will keep an eye on this thread, something about it just feels..wrong


EDIT: they have a strong physological influence, (like some rare humans) they can influence your thought patterns, making you think your thinking something when it is actully being placed in your mind, only a strong willed mind would be able to know this and possibly resist.....but then again why resist to join with your family?

Maybe not a flesh and blood family but one big family that seeks out the same goals, does that not make one a family? I shall do some research of this man and anyone he knew

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reply to post by Anthony1138


I dunno if you read the reports going by your post there.

But nobody knows what happened to him. He vanished out of thin air (plane and all)

reply to post by kadyr80


Well, apparently its something a lot here did not know about. So with that in mind, yeah, its new in that regard

reply to post by Royzer


Anytime!

I was glad that I could post something that was interesting to you friend.

Originally posted by spirit_horse
If I am not mistaken the incident occured not far from Pine Gap, an Echelon signals intelligence station equipped with radar capable of seeing a grapefruit sized object 30,000 miles out into space and is able to tell which direction the object is rotating. They have had inquires about this incident and claim they have no information at all and did not pick up the incident. People familiar with Pine Gap's operations say this is almost impossible given their geospatial intelligence and situational awareness of the entire area. It is believed that they witnessed the incident through their instruments on site and refuse to release any information on the incident.

Rense,com has some photos of the base at this url:
www.rense.com...

Obviously there are plenty of sites, including ATS that has good information on Pine Gap and their capabilities. I just thought I would add this to the OP's story which I heard of shortly after it happened. It is one of those incidents that I don't like. Taking people at will and not returning them is unsettleing to say the least.

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i live in melbourne and i can assure you pine gap is nowhere near here. also bass straight being a pretty rough sea its quite possible that the pilot and the craft will never be found. IF THE INDIVIDUAL FOUND IS RUSSIA REALLY WAS THE MISSING PILOT WHY DIDNT HE COME BACK TO MELBOURNE?

just wondering because if i was abducted by aliens and had alien tin foil with my name and details i would be saying hey look-it-dis.

reply to post by TiM3LoRd


If one were to believe that source (which is very questionable) then perhaps he discovered a better life and didnt want to go back to Melbourne.

What actually happened to him however remains a mystery.

Lets deal with the problem at hand instead of wondering this and that.

The spaceport already completed on 1980, and this guy help to transport O2 there. Theres story of water sucked and transported to moon bases.

Yet till now, none of these alien come a front and expose themself.
I suspect these "benevolent" alien is not so innocent at all.

I have to go with Unknown Soldier this time, he does have a point.
Thieves, bio experiment, mind reprogram, kidnapper, false memories, blackmails and who knows what else.

Crap, we are the farm of the galaxy buffet style but strictly no takeaways.

After 2nd deep thought, I now switch side to support the US gov secrecy about UFO matter. Sorry guys.

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Well from what i have been turning up is not all if any of these beings are "enlightening" or here to help so much as to help themselves. I have yet to see ET come down and change a guys tire along side a deserted road or help an old lady cross the street. Seems with abductions people go through a terror process then get these ideas these beings are helping them. Seems they conform at some point with these beings and are broken like horses.The whole "I felt incredible LOVE" Brainwashed & under some mind control it seems.

I guess how I feel about it is if ET was so concerned about our well being they would not drag people out of bed, or pick them up driving along somewhere. That they would make themselves known at some town hall meeting at least and people would volunteer for whatever medical exam ect. But really these women are being used as vessels for Hybrids and men for sperm and tagged like cattle.

They are not helping us they are helping themselves like thieves in the night. Thy are indifferent to us and that is a morality and ethics issue between us and them. Maybe they see things different. Just as we do to animals when we eat them or milk a cow.
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Originally posted by Hedera Helix
reply to post by badw0lf

 

Hard to believe that just an apostrophe could cause that much chaos -----> it’s

Also suspicious, in the 2nd part is how it says: "here is the most important part" the stops w.o. getting to the point.

This is a real interesting case that I think deserves full attention. I will say this--the end of the story where he supposedley showed up randomly in Spain doesn't raise any red flags for me because it's perfectly clear that this was disinfo. The entire story is backed by facts and information provided from credible sources--until this. IMO, this is a perfect example of where the government saw the truth in this--and threw in some BS to throw people off the trail.

reply to post by spirit_horse


Pine Gap is a long way from King Island, approx 2.4K kms

My father was an air traffic controller at Tullermarine Airport back in the 70's. I remember him coming home off shift and telling my brother and I about this event. It was one of his mates who was the ATC in control of that flight.
Great to see something else turn up about it. I recall my fathers mates, all Atc's, had THE best UFO stories from around the world as many of them were foreign nationals who had moved to Oz at the invite of the then Federal government.
I also recall them talking about haunted planes, but thats for another thread so wont go into them here.

Originally posted by gl2
Also suspicious, in the 2nd part is how it says: "here is the most important part" the stops w.o. getting to the point.

Lmao... People need to use the FULL STORY link... the OP is not going to paste the entire article as it goes against the T&C.

I can't believe how many times peopel have mentioned that and thought it suspicious.

In other news....