Hidden Hand Message - Law Of One - Discussion!

reply to post by AdonaiChristBless

Hi AdonaiChristBless,

I answered all questions, but due to this badly designed forum it cut of the rest even thou it showed it would post it, this is annoying because I did not make a backup copy. I have decided since this occured those answers should not yet be given, some of it went quite complex.

I understand your frustration, we do appreciate the contributions you've made to this thread.

Thanks
Respectfully
Best Wishes!

reply to post by ET_MAN


We did end of it say any help is appreciated. you may contact us on [email protected].

If you have any suggestions on fast way to learn webdesign we would appreciate as we do intend to progress into the next step.

Some of the information we shared which is ashame it did not post was the complexity of how abductions work and programming of the individual.

Perhaps once we establish a better medium we may share more advanced information, but understand we also protect knowledge at the same time as teach it.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

[edit on 22-8-2010 by AdonaiChristBless]

reply to post by AdonaiChristBless


man o man. Would liek to say I respect your viewpoint,be it truth or not, I am unable to know either way.

But man,had to speak up on this, this is a really depressing,somber and to some,scary, reality you are preenting here.

So basically,you state it as fact and only truth,that this physical Universe I and everyone else on Earth reside in, is a parasite. So that's one issue,I live in a parastie Universe,one separate fro mthe etherical one. gotcha.

Next thing you bring up is that they suck our energy,use our negative emotions,such as sadness and depression as food. Okay,gotcha,made me feel much better thanks.Just so you know,you helped intnsify my sadness,and thus you helped the Evil ones use more of my energy for food.Something to ponder about.But I guess that is my fault though,more than anyone elses.You are here just to inform and help.

And by the looks of your comments, no many at all will be ready when the harvest comes,since msot have been lead astray,including me.Actualyl no,I never did hope to be worthy of succesfully passing the harvest,not at my present stage of evolution at least.

So not only are we slaves in it's purest form, being sucked dry of our energy incarnation after incarnation,but we are also in a prisonplanet,since ,as you said, this physical universe is a parasite.

oh,and let's not forget..(and Et_Man,we talked about this once recently) some don't even have a soul,possibly even many. Just something called an "inprint". Anyone who is still "evil" aka selfish to soem extent doesn't have a soul ''complex" and so by that logic I can adamantly state that since I still have a lot of selfishnes within me,then I also have no soul to speak of. I HAVE NO SOUL. I jsut have the EGO mind that is eating me alive,making me think i AM that ego,but then again it's no surprise my soul can't overcome the Ego,since my soul energy is being eaten constantly by the evil ones,because I happen to be depressed and sad..for slefish reasons to boot.So there's a double whammy.
I'm being sucked dry of all SOUL energy as you said,byt theevil ones...and YET,I DONT even have a soul. Just na imprint. Or am I missing something? How can the evi lones eat my soul energy,if I have NO soul to begin with. Are they eating my ''imprint'' energy then ? Please do eloborate on this.


I'm going ot bed now, will probably have some hoorifying dreams tonight due to an utter sense of being helpless,doomed,trapped inside a prison, my sou lenergy sucked out...oh and without a SOUL. I'm not a soul, I had that idea once,guess I was correct. What a way to finish off the day and go to sleep. Thanks. Would cry actually,but don't have a soul,but perhaps to cry one doesn't need a soul,it's just an emotion created by the brain.Should definitely question that emotion yeah.I shoudl question every step I take in life,every word I say,before I say it. Forget about living then,I have to analyze and question EVERYTHING I do/say/react to/think etc.

Good Night

I would like to once again remind anyone on a path of seeking here to remember...

You are having a individual experience for a reason. You have your own things that will resonate with you for a reason. There are reasons we all dont have the same lessons and synchronicity.

If something resonates with you, and not another...there is a reason. The reason may not be a reason of truth....but of learning about your deepest self.

It is hard to escape the reality of the ego and what role it plays in our experience. The ego is not 'bad' but it can hinder.

We are all connected in Spirit...the Spirit within me is the same within you and everyone, even those beyond this sphere. This is the common ground we need to remember.

I feel many are offering too many details of their own experiences in 'memory' that may mislead others. I was mislead in thinking that I had a 'home' beyond here...that ascension is what I was waiting for....but I discovered I was not here for those things...home was within me, and I am here to stay with this Sphere. I came very close to not seeking within me (even though I thought I was because certain things these people told me resonated deeply). Even though those things resonated with me for a reason....the reasons were not my purpose for being here.

Once I let go of depending on another to tell me about life and purpose, I had a convergence of another self of me. Many give me neat words to tell me what this was, trying to tell me what density this being of me converging with me was....but I realized I did not need details, all I needed was to stay balanced and observe what was happening. Staying open was important.

I see many asking others what is this...what is that....

Be careful...for what something might be for another, it might not be for you.

How can your deepest being of Spirit show you things...when you are going to another for answers about yourself?

Happy journeys!
LV

Thank you Leo Virgo. Good post.

I just say I am in a "state of being" - - which means I'm on my path.

And even though I joke about it - - I live it seriously from inside. From my core energy. Life has been difficult - but I never let go of that "energy core". Like "being on center" - I know when I waiver. I stick to "center" - one foot in front of the other - - even when it doesn't seem to make any sense at the time.

I have had challenges where I've been knocked off center - - but I get back to it as quick as I can. Then its like looking in a rear view mirror. "Oh yeah - I did that - but now I'm back".

I do like to read these threads for fun - - and sometimes stuff resonates with me. It is not the words I notice.

reply to post by LeoVirgo

Hi LeoVirgo,

Thanks for the good post, here are my thoughts on the last part of it.

How can your deepest being of Spirit show you things...when you are going to another for answers about yourself?

From my perspective part of the learning experience is to question things and get feedback from others so that one can discover what they believe and feel for themselves. This is why there are interactions between people and discussions on various subjects/topics. This is why people go to school and learn from others so that as they learn, they can in return question the material on their own and ultimately go with what they feel and believe. So questioning others is part of the process/path/journey of one finding their own answers 'within.'

People do not isolate themselves from the world going with what they feel alone inside. It's a process of a person questioning and asking what does science have to say, what do my parents have to say, what do my friends have to say and so on - then take in that information, analyze it, ponder it and go with what a person feels (inside) 'within' themselves. It's a discovery and learning process based on information available. I would have to say the 'within' feelings confirm for a person things they learn based on what they feel. Answers come from 'within' but in order to receive those answers one must also ask the questions.

Best Wishes!

Originally posted by ET_MAN

People do not isolate themselves from the world going with what they feel alone inside. It's a process of a person questioning and asking what does science have to say, what do my parents have to say, what do my friends have to say and so on - then take in that information, analyze it, ponder it and go with what a person feels (inside) 'within' themselves. It's a discovery and learning process based on information available. I would have to say the 'within' feelings confirm for a person things they learn based on what they feel. Answers come from 'within' but in order to receive those answers one must also ask the questions.

1. Is it true that humans on Earth are meant to find their own truth?

2. Does a belief system affect what kind of experience the person might face in the afterlife? For example: Does a Christian experience a "Christian-like" afterlife or a Hindu experiences a "Hindu-like" afterlife?

3. Is everything explained in the afterlife? *Everything as in everything the soul can comprehend to understand*

4. Is there more than one Creator?

5. What is the "between lives" realm like? Does it feel "physical" as on Earth?

Thanks.

Hi Annee and ET MAN

I do agree with you both...for I read others ideas for the same reasons you all mentioned.

As long as there is discernment, and not just acceptance of what another has learned, then of course, that is great.

Some dont do this, and they are just accepting what others tell them.

I worry about the one on this thread telling everyone they are deprogrammed....for I believe that every path has purpose and is not a mistake. The path may change....growing, evolving....but still, where ever we are all at on our paths at this very moment is because we are in need of something in that path, it is offering us something.

I also think we can learn from others, but that learning should be more about love, unconditional acceptance, hope, ect....

Instead of details about ships above earth, what other galaxies are doing or have done, or future predictions.

My round about point was like you both said....

Please discern, dont just accept because it sounds nice or interesting.

I know I followed someone's ideas for a while...and it mislead what the Spirit had to offer me greatly. Im just so thankful that I didnt keep following that path, even though alot of what that person said resonated with me deeply.

Much love to you both
LV

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
As long as there is discernment, and not just acceptance of what another has learned, then of course, that is great.

Some don't do this, and they are just accepting what others tell them.

I agree - - - yes this can be a problem.

I'm fortunate - - I've been guided (by who knows) since birth. I only know they protect me. They continuously warn me against false prophets.

Its actually difficult for me to understand new awakenings - - - because I was born this way.

But in everything - - personal responsibility is everything.

reply to post by sphinx551

Hi Sphinx551,

Before answering the following questions please keep in mind. I am answering these questions according to my current understanding based on my own personal off world experiences including an nde.

The following is my perspective only:

1. Is it true that humans on Earth are meant to find their own truth?

It's part of the hide and go seek process. Earth life (for the majority) is about discovering who we are without remembering who we previously were. It's about becoming who we want to become based on freewill to choose, act and decide for ourselves. The earth life process is a learning experience to further one' s progression.

It's not the temporal belief that counts - but the intent of one's heart, the thoughts/actions/deeds on how one treats and interacts with others.

2. Does a belief system affect what kind of experience the person might face in the afterlife?

For the (majority) who experience near death experiences 'yes.' For those who get to stay longer 'no', their temporal earth life belief is not what a 'soul' is faced with on the other side. What a 'soul' faces is 'Itself' and all of the thoughts/actions/deeds it experienced/performed to others. The memories/relationships, trials/tribulations both difficult/enjoyable, the good the bad and the ugly. (the works)

For example: Does a Christian experience a "Christian-like" afterlife or a Hindu experiences a "Hindu-like" afterlife?

A 'soul' leaving the body (initially) receives an experience based on belief or what one can relate with. These experiences are given to 'souls' based on what they currently believe. (Most) near death experiences are based on a 'souls' current belief system/religion but not all. 'Souls' that remain on the other side longer past the initial 'peak behind the curtain' receive more information/memory recalls/awareness' and understand the experience better/clearer.

3. Is everything explained in the afterlife?

If you mean the long term stay beyond the 'peak behind the curtain experience' No - It is 'remembered.'

*Everything as in everything the soul can comprehend to understand*

There is no such thing as 'all knowing' - eternal progression is endless/infinite.

4. Is there more than one Creator?

One Creator for one-1, another Creator for one-1.
There are 'Infinite' Creators and Infinite 1's within 'Infinity' and always a 'Beyond.'
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5. What is the "between lives" realm like?

There are many versions/waiting rooms/realms/destinations/experiences that 'souls' can have in between lives or when experiencing nde's – initially based on one's current (memory) belief or what one can relate with. Some 'souls' get a taste of their own version of heaven or hell (initially) depending on situation/circumstance. 'Souls' that remain on the other side past the initial 'peak behind the curtain experience' receive more information/memory recalls/awareness.'

Does it feel "physical" as on Earth?

Moreso

Thanks.

You're welcome

Best Wishes!

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reply to post by Valeri

It is not us who made you feel that way but your interpretation and response to the information given, do not play the victim and you will not be the victim. We are simply revealing the deeper reason why ascension is important in a souls development, yes while in the physical universe you are feed upon by parasites 'you also are a parasite to others' and the physical universe itself sustains itself on your spiritual energies, yes physical is separate to the ethereal but at same time without the ethereal the physical universe has no energy to sustain itself.

Think of how animals view you, how mankind treats them and see them compared to themselves, it just part of the natural laws of this existence that those more developed have superiority over those less developed 'being within a STS realm that is'.

Understand this truth when you are struggling you are growing, so by your feeling about such things you are developing, it happens in waves this is why you sometimes feel unbalanced 'emotionally confused' angry moods etc.

Your negative experiences help you develop as much as your positive experiences, to much of either results in opposite experience, so being too positive will result in negative events to bring back into balance so is the nature of being within a duality universe in which its creator itself is a split personality.

Part of your lessons is self responsibility by blaming us for how you felt from the information you simply have inhibited growing from it.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless

Most of what ET_MAN said in response to sphinxs questions is correct, we would add that it is not ones own truth one is to seek but to seek the one truth.

We would also agree with the believe systems affect experience at death as pass through the astral into the ethereal universe, we would add that if one has no believes at death one sees things as they truely are and it is the most magnificent experience.

we would also add that when you do go into the 5th density 'comtemplation realm' you are given access to all lifes memorys and your entire soul complex information database so to speak so that may review with guidence what lessons need to be completed.

There is 'One' Creator and many aspects of the 'One' Creators intelligence so you could say what ET_Man said is correct, they are known as Logos in which creates the gods in which creates the angels so on so on, each creator creates.

here this is from my thread this will help understand it:

What is beyond Prime Creator?

Love in it purest frequecy in which many collective Intelligence of awareness exsist each a Creator of a exsistance in which is a parent to the former.

We shall explain image Creator of this exsistances Creates creators of itself they create within its body using its energy to do so, each part of itself is part of the creator itself those creators create creations which then create and continues.

Now imagine that the Creator itself developed in another exsistance itself and is a Child learning from itself and you are part of this Child, now understand that these others exsistances are more complete than this one so do not hold a duality at all where as the Child still learning about itself has a split personaility due to Infection of 'Evil' which is a Idea planted like concept 'Incention' describes.

Now just as their is realms of pure love vibration their is realms of pure hate within those realms no good experience exsists hence the choice comes in which direction one goes the consumers devours and within them is a universe of only torment and evil this is the beast of prophercy in which as ive told you before is feeding apon mankind through its creations and has installed the reality you live by and its system and it is this system that if nothing is done you will be devoured eventually.

Quorum
Adonai Christ bless



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[edit on 23-8-2010 by AdonaiChristBless]

Well hasn't this become something else.

It's funny, there is very little behind the curtains at this point which is exactly how it should be. There are also very few of the "lukewarms" still following this so it has quite the different resonance to it as to the intentions laid within prior material.

As the moments pass and the possible timelines dwindle down until we reach the one that plays out, Gaia is certainly becoming more unified. The unification process is fractal to the quark....present in personal lives, physical nature, and what is happening in the higher realms, invisible to the third density eye. It all is rapidly leading towards one soon to be moment:

Singularity.

It's happening. And there is no denying it. Polarity seems to be withering away and Neutrality is on the rise like the Phoenix that never died. This thread certainly is proof.

How each handles it for the duration is what will make this just as unique as it is spectacular. The micro/macro cosmic-ness of all this is awesome yet to be expected. I mean this is all clearly Intelligent Design so how could it be any other way?!

It only gets better from here. Can you feel it? The fabric of this matrix is metamorphisizing right before our eyes.

The most important work comes now. And yea ET_MAN, you are right,we are defintiely going to laugh about this. I definitely have no regrets about anything I said but as you and I have also known, we all will always be Cosmic Family.

I'm not a movie guy but John Travolta in Swordfish said a line that for some reason always stuck with me. "It will all be over before you can say "Cat in a Hat'".

Record well in that last blink of the eye friends.

Blessings.

reply to post by Universal Light


3rd density eye can see the higher realms you just have to have the access

Plus there are those here to stop horrible things happening so people should stop worrying so so much

Help will soon get here all we have to do is wait, well we do need to prepare for some of the events but hey things will be good soon

Also Universal Light welcome back from the long stay or vacation

Well of course you won't be able to say "Cat in the Hat" with the sort of event you have in mind. But I do know that something will be changed for the Divine Plan is always changing new things are added other things are taken out. What people truly need to realize that we all have a right to what we want to happen after the plan is carried out. So people put on your happy hats and start manifesting for a true Eden for this world.

Love and Light to all.

reply to post by Archangel In Training



As much as I admire your optimism it seems to border on ignorence of the reality of the situation we are in here. Being worried and facing the harsh facts are two completely different things. I do think things will eventually get much better but it will appear to be alot worse before that.

As for waiting for others to come help you, well that could be highly foolish in that many sts will pretend they are here to help and trick us. I think its best to trust only yourself in such times as this.

I dont think anyone is coming to save us from ourselves, humanity has been falling for the savior trick for too long we shouldnt make that mistake again.

You are your own saviour.

[edit on 23-8-2010 by polarwarrior]

reply to post by Valeri


Hi Valeri even I do not understand some of the information of where Adonai gets it. All I can say it is odd and that everyone who tries spreading love and light to him. Is either called poison or programmed and my personal best no soul. Now what he is not getting is the fact that all have souls and the only ones that have a soul imprint are the AI life forms. So he is mixing up the AI/Bots with real life humans that does not seem to amuse me at all. Also Valeri not to worry my friend for you have a soul, I, that dog or cat, bugs,birds and many many more life forms have a soul. The only time imprints are used are by the TBS which are usually put into soul bots.

Plus not to worry we are all came here for a reason so there is a higher plan for everyone.

So not to worry Valeri we all here for a reason and all have a soul.

Love and Light to you, I hope you don't think that sending others love and light is not dangerous.

reply to post by Universal Light

I'm not a movie guy but John Travolta in Swordfish said a line that for some reason always stuck with me. "It will all be over before you can say "Cat in a Hat'".

Record well in that last blink of the eye friends.

So true, if time keeps feeling like its speeding up exponentially to the "nexus point" then the last couple of years are gonna feel so short, yet action packed.

reply to post by AdonaiChristBless


Hey Q, based on what you know now and what has unfolded or whatever, like what would be your guess/estimate as to the most probable/possible end date? I think the last date I saw ya mentioned in your thread was about 2015 but that mustve been a couple of years back you made that prediction so has it changed?

reply to post by polarwarrior


Polarwarrior that sort of attitude won't work here the whole you are your own savior type of deal. That is not the right set of mind and many are here to help do not lose faith in help from others. Faith can go a long way for it is something that I was told by many Angelic Dimensional beings to have faith over things and listen to your heart for help is within us all.

I use to have no patience and was such a brat trust me my friend I was really bad. But then I started to question things and search within also around me the cosmic universe. I received answers also information from my contacts and contacts of other people. Sort of a sms from other peoples guides
But now I realized who I truly am and also that patience truly pays off through the long run.

Of course if things do go bad down here I will help people I will do the whole one man mission ordeal, I will work as a team player with people around me. For once a great man said "We are all in this together and the only way is teamwork". That is the reason for many of us here teamwork to make sure to build a better future together working as a team as 1 equal community.

The biggest mistake we could do is be a Rambo and become complete Renegades over the situations that will be presented in the coming times on this planet. Rambo mode will not be the option of our missions here teamwork will be needed to accomplish certain tasks. So you must ask yourself first are you a team player or a Rambo child that will fail their assignment or task.

We must work as a Family of Light that we truly are to bring in the right sort of help from above.

Love and Light to you Polar also thanks for the comment.

reply to post by polarwarrior


PolarWarrior also a side note nothing truly ends so there is never an end but a beginning of a end

Do not fear death for neither life or death is the end for there is never an end but an infinite beginning

2015 is not the end game for the date for now it was 2020 when the help will come. So basically what I am trying to say is during the 10 year scale expect the unexpected many things will happen and so will many figures show on the street. Stopping the fear and panic in the crowds of humanity LightWorkers are already here and for we are in many numbers.

Sleepers are now being awakened and activated so more people will start showing with experiences to share on forums also live. Basically people with predictions and visions of the coming times.

I think there is a quote in the Bible that say "For in the coming times when the time is near the Divine spirit will be poured onto the young and the old for they shall be given visions and dreams, for they shall be prophets of the heavens" something along those lines as far as I remember. I never read the Bible before so I am trying to pull out information from personal knowledge.

I am not very too fond of the whole events taking place and I keep putting forward a request for the events to be canceled out. But I guess not all of them can be stopped so somethings must happen for a reason. I know where I will be when chaos hits I will be on the street quieting the panic and helping people out of their fear.

Again Love and Light also thanks for the posts.

reply to post by Archangel In Training


Ask for a bit of help is much different to wanting another to come and save you. I ask for help all the time, but im not putting the task of my own spiritual awakening in the hands of another to do all the work for me.

I was replying to this part mainly

Plus there are those here to stop horrible things happening so people should stop worrying so so much

Help will soon get here all we have to do is wait

.... I think sitting around waiting for "the help" to arrive is the last thing we should be doing.

I dont know about you but I have much inner work and spiritual preperations to be done and not much time, so "waiting" is out of the question in my case.

I think we should work together and help each other out and all that... but not cross the line into expecting we are going to be "saved" by an outside source.