Iran says it has 100 vessels to confront each US warship

reply to post by Now_Then


they will try but Iranian speed boats will be target practice for navy aircraft and guns." think"the Iraqi highway of death on water
I am not condoning this conflict that in my opinion is inevitable, just saying what I think will come to pass.

Originally posted by Ben81
China have BIG patience... they wait with their billions army strong men
to strike a FINISH-HIM with the help of Russia...

Then we should sit down and smokem BIG peace pipe. Talkem peace, eatem good food.

NEWS flash:

They don't havem "Billions Army"

china wants new ground for his people... "the promise land of china"

AND....

That's exactly what the US/West have been prepping and waiting for. You do realize that in order for China to take more territory that it would have to invade and subjugate it's neighbors right?

"the promise land of china" Which is where exactly? Korea, Japan, Russia or India? OR all of them?

the plan have been made ... they will not let slip by an occasion like this... an invasion is coming to the american continent

You've been reading way too many comics and or conspiracies here at ATS. May I suggest stepping away from the computer, Taking a walk in the sunshine and get some fresh air.

i live in Canada .. if somebody invade the usa ... it will certainly come in the north to control the entire north america... (mexico will not be invaded...do that surprise anyone ? )

You do realize that would turn Canada into a battle ground with millions of casualties right? I've plenty of Canadian friends and relatives, I have yet to see any real Canadians who would like that scenario.

to see the bigger pictures
its a chain of event starting the war in NK that will preceed the Iran strikes
its a strategy... to have less condemnations and attentions from the world view

Well as long as North Korea continues to threaten it's peaceful neighbors [ South Korea and Japan] with a nuclear missile attack they will continue to be on the watch list.

PEACE

Slay

Originally posted by GuiltyByDesign
This is in reply to Ben81's prediction of the future...


Whenever you feel ready to take down the "American evil", feel free to come down south and try.

Until then, everyone sounds big and bad behind their computer screens over the Internet.

Besides, Canadian gun laws make it rather difficult to procur firearms, do they not?

You are like countless others on this website, wishing ill upon a nation of 300+ million who, for the most part, are good, caring people.

And while you are threatening me and those I love, learn ENGLISH and how to properly use it.

/out

[edit on 24-7-2010 by GuiltyByDesign]

hello my friend
sorry to make mistakes in my english (its not my first language) im trying hard so everyone can understand my statements properly .. and i want to improve my english much more ... any critics are accepted

first of all i love with all my heart my neightboor the USA
and all is citizens... many great and good peoples come from there and i pray for them to be protected ..
Canada follow the USA but USA doesnt not follow the USA anymore like it did before ... now its following Israeli interest
those interests serve GREED itself
this chain of event to attack Iran was started by the 9/11 false flag Mossad CIA operation...i beleive the government know the truth to what really happened...

but like Richard dreyfuss say
Richard Dreyfuss Says No To New 9/11 Investigation


you have to realise that USA no longer live in your fairy world of yours
the americans dream is no more ...
THE ISRAELI AND USA REGIME HAVE TO BE REPLACED BY GOOD PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE NOTHING ELSE
AIPAC is the new white house
3/4 of your congress people are pro-zionist

AMERICANS DISERVE BETTER
i trully beleived with Obama speech that he was finally the real president that your country diserve ...
its only Bush#2 with a more appealing smile :S


if you still dont agree with me ... you are lost in your emotions

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Nope. It's not gonna happen. Israel/PNAC/the neocons/the Zionists are at low power ebb, so it's gonna be another stalemate like 2007

Then what better way to make a resurgence, if they are at a low power ebb, then to initiate conflict with Iran, to unite and rally the American and Israeli populace to the cause of waging war on Iran?

Perhaps a false flag operation, or the Zahedan bombings, which Iran say were backed by the US, to antagonise Iran into making the wrong move and giving a pretext for war.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
or it's going to ignite in N. Korea.

The US/South Korean Naval exercises seem almost to be an attempt to dare the North Koreans to retaliate.

Unfortunatly, if North Korea does not respond, the higher and less wise echelons of their government or military may feel they have shown weakness in the face of these military exercises on their doorstep and feel compelled to respond.

Was it really necessary for Hillary Clinton to travel to the DMZ and be seen in an photo op barely a foot away from a North Korean soldier able to look through a window at her at this time of tensions?

How antagonistic can she get?

I'm sure in the years to come we will hear her tell thrilling stories of how she entered the DMZ under a hail of sniper fire from the North Koreans.

i think this is where we get the term when all hell broke loose, and on a global scale.
onward to victory! on and on and on.
stay the course- the light's at the end of the tunnel.

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign

(I work for the government, so I must be careful with my words)

that doesnt surprise me at all with what you said.. but i still respect you

do you fear any swat team coming to your house putting some drugs in your house .. shooting your familly dog .. and beating you and your familly... if you critics them.. you have good reasons to fear them ...
then you can continu to critics me to show how good/patriotic you are to them... to avoid any harm coming to people you know

from my part if will never shut up on anything i see wrong today
if a start to accept those lies leading to war crimes... my soul will be wounded by shame forever

reply to post by SLAYER69


hope i dont sound to much fearmongering to your ears

its only a possibility ...a speculations of what the outcomes may bring to the USA... especially on its soil
if they strike NK and/or Iran

i dont approve ANY WAR ON INVASION
who invaded who in the last 10 years
did you see any exageration in the media ?? for those wars and invasions
or they were all credible to your eyes ??

yes im CANADIAN and proud to be ... i always loved my friendly neightboor.... but the brat adopted attidude may bring consequences to the entire north continent...
i wish USA would just get out of the ME and SK
and i promise you that i will no more go fearmongering

because peace will have now a bigger chance to succeed


[edit on 7/24/2010 by Ben81]

Originally posted by RestingInPieces
The "vessels" are canoes, no? Hahaha, I kid, I kid.

They are most probably fast speed boats, mostly set up for suicide bombing runs on USN vessels. We wargamed this very possibility and the game didn't turn out well for the USN. Hopefully we have learned from that exercise. Expect unconventional attacks from Iran. We just have to be prepared for them. They could be a threat if not taken seriously.

reply to post by Desolate Cancer


Should the Iranian Airforce try to leave their borders they would be swept from the skies. They would not be able to hit Israeli bases without missiles and, if memory serves me, Israel's have the equivalent of our Tomahawks that are already targeted for strategic locations in Iran. Iran has lousy pilots and second generation Russian fighters that are mostly used up. Even Russia is not stupid enough to give Iran first line jets. Hell all they really have are loads of bodies to throw at a battle line and Iraq held them to a stand still. Iraqis didn't stand up so well against the US. Iran is the paper tiger here just like North Korea,

Zindo

[edit on 7/24/2010 by ZindoDoone]

reply to post by Ben81


Firstly, let me apologize for accosting your English. I should have realized that it was not your first language by your post. Please excuse my ignorance.

Secondly, I don't think, at least not at this time, that anyone is going to come to my house to round me up or attack/arrest my family or myself. The job I do for the government allows me some insight into if such things were going on, and so far, so good. That isn't to say it doesn't, or might not in the future, happen. That's just what I can discern is currently taking place.

And to your initial post about the Iranian "vessels"... these consist of speedboats and jet-skis, manned by a driver and a passenger wielding an RPG. They call this a 'bee-swarm".

The US Navy recognized this threat immediately after the USS Cole bombing, and began equipping it's vessels heading into the Persian Gulf with a CIWS that fires a 9mm projectile (a search for the Mark 44 weapon system, which I thought it was dubbed, instead yielded the replacement for the Mark 25 weapon system).

This 9mm CIWS was designed with the 'bee-swarm' in mind, as it was able to engage multiple small targets at range. I don't recall the exact threat envelope of the weapon system, it's been some years since I've seen it.

Either way, any Navy, other than the Russian one, that goes into blue-water battle against the US Navy, will be summarily routed and defeated.

reply to post by Ben81


Ha! I bet that Slayer made fun of your English because it was actually GOOD enough to pass as some native speakers here in America! Your English is actually pretty easily understood though by no means perfect. You do actually write better than many native speakers here. That is sad, but that is not a dig at you, on the contrary.

Now as far as your earlier post it did sound like, at least at first that you were lumping all Americans and the federal government together and hating on them. Later you did specify that you did not mean the people so as an American I agree with you now.

The federal government of the US only has their own corporatist, fascist, criminal interests in mind and no longer represent the majority of American people.

As for the actual subject lol, I think that they may be on to something using many small boats that are easily replaced to attack large expensive American ships.

Though the US Navy figured this out too after the USS Cole bombing. They have missle/gun systems on board and tracking systems that can engage hundreds of targets at one time so they had better have many boats on hand!
[edit on 24-7-2010 by Redwookieaz]

[edit on 24-7-2010 by Redwookieaz]

Remember Iran has 10,000 missiles locked and loaded on every single US war ship in the region, as well as every US base.

No way USrael can stop all those missiles or destroy every launch site in Iran before they have a chance to yell "FIRE!"..

Thennnnnn the Nukes come out to play.

Maybe the ships he is talking about are the ones he plays with in his bath tub.
Ahmadinnerjacket and Lil kim have their own "Who sank my battleship" game

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


They have also reissued Mini-guns and fabricated hard points for heavier firepower along the decks of most of the vessels sent to the ME. Larger Marine contingents aboard ships to use this weaponry also.!

Zindo

reply to post by CanadianDream420


And of those '10,000' they would be LUCKY to get one quarter to fire and have their guidance systems function correctly!

Zindo

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
Remember Iran has 10,000 missiles locked and loaded on every single US war ship in the region, as well as every US base.

No way USrael can stop all those missiles or destroy every launch site in Iran before they have a chance to yell "FIRE!"..

Thennnnnn the Nukes come out to play.

Uh Huh....... Please show me the proof, plus the ranges of these 10,000 missiles. There is a reason why the USN for the most part, operates hundreds of miles from their intended targets coastlines. You have to come out and play to attack them, in open water they will be picked off.

End result of any conflict with Iran results in Iran being left greatly destroyed. Iran does not end up a "winner" in any battle with the U.S.

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


nah its okay i know my english really s*** some times

those iranians vessels are very fast ... why ??
i have read somewhere they are bomb boat ... if one explode on the side of a carrier ... trust me it will make a huge hole in it
they will not attack US warships with speedy boat equiped with light weapons LOL ... that would be a massacre .. even 100 iranians speed both vs a carrier will have no chances... but if they swarm like the bee swarm you said
it will be hard to shoot them out ... 50% will i think succeed to go suicidebombing on a carrier with the result of massive damages

The US Navy recognized this threat immediately after the USS Cole bombing

they clearly didnt recognized the USS liberty one

reply to post by GuiltyByDesign


Unless American people take back control of their corrupt and greedy warmongering government, it's only a question of time before your country will get retaliation, or decompose in it's own debt.

Let's that care and love trickle up to your government and world will be a better place.

Understand that is no threat, most population wants peace and just live their life, but your country is in the way in a LOT of places.

I myself regret deeply the position of my own government too, and we could face the same consequences if we do not go back to our pre-Afganistan Invasion policies.

Giving # to someone who's first language is not English because he his not as competent as native speakers without trying to learn their language is really self centered.

Apprenez donc le français Monsieur, et nous verrons qui parle mieux sa langue seconde.

Peace on you, and all of your frustrations.

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by CanadianDream420

 

And of those '10,000' they would be LUCKY to get one quarter to fire and have their guidance systems function correctly!

Zindo

Well! what about if those 10.000 Iranian vessels would be superfast underwater missiles/torpedo/unmanned stealth minisubs like vessels?

Underwater launching system?

They earlier got some of this new underwater stealth tech from Russia N.Korea as well.

www.cbsnews.com...

www.theregister.co.uk...

www.india-defence.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

After more thoughs on the main title
that iran have 100 ships for each warships....

how many US warships are now stationned near Iran sea borders..?
between 10 to 20

100 * 10 = 1000

so did they just say that they will launch a swarm of little speedy boats by thousands to confront all the US warships

i think yes ... only 100 smalls speedy iranian boats vs a fleet of US warships will not be enough
but a thousand of them will change this futur sea war