CLOSE-UP VIDEO: Pilot filming plane spraying into the air

reply to post by Copernicus


Like wtf!!! something has got to be done over this!! there over dublin Ireland every clear day.I guess people will have to drop dead before this is belived. Is it to poision everybody or have farmers have to take genetic modified seed resistant to boron and aluminum etc that have to be bought yearly?

science.nasa.gov...

My guess is they know the Earth may be in trouble... I've read that there is data available that suggests other planets in our solar system are heating up, as well as the Earth. The big lie IMO is that global warming is man-made. Something is going on in the solar system. Maybe we are passing through a rough patch of space or maybe it's the sun.

Perhaps TPTB are simply trying to slow down the heating up of the planet by spraying whatever it is they are spraying in hopes that it will act as a barrier and reflect some of the sun's heat back into space.

Who knows?

reply to post by 4nsicphd


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It is very, very funny how the uneducated can believe practically anything, especially when it comes to fields like aerospace and aviation...that is why the "chemtards" thrive so easily, addling the brains of those who simply aren't equipped withthe experience and knowledge to know any better.

Folks, in regards that video, again...in the very beginning, where the maker adds arrows and text and points to the "nozzles"???

Those are the HINGES for the flaps. I said it above once, it bears repeating, because I've come bacl with a phot to prove it:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4728a6a8cbc2.jpg[/atsimg]

That is the "hospital airplane" ORBIS. It certainly is not spreading "chemtrails" all over the world whilst conducting errands of mercy!

See those big 'ole things on the back of the wings? Those are what pilots call "flaps". The trailing edge flaps, to be precise. Hopefully those with some measure of mechanical aptitude will instantly recognize the relationship they have, and function they serve for the FLAPS!

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
So, let me see if I understand. These are supposedly chemtrails, which according to a post on page one are meant to keep up "compliant, stupid and sick", but YOU, the wonderful posters of ATS, are unaffected? You are the sole survivors of this chemical spray? Really? You think that YOU are the sole genius left amongst your community who knows the REAL truth behind the chemtrails, everyone else having been reduced to compliant, stupid, bed-ridden dullards?

Give me a break.

This means that the Poison Cloud Theory is pretty much bunk.

But this leaves us with many other possibilities. Ozone rebuilding, weather mod, contrails, etc.

Care to address these other possibilities? Sigh....

That is why I spend a whole post griping about this word "chem trails". It's freaking ridiculous how many thousands of things this word can be applied to.

reply to post by weedwhacker

Thanks Weedwacker. I was wrong about vortilons. Turns out they are actually positioned on the undersurface of the leading edge (when used).

Originally posted by weedwhacker


It is very, very funny how the uneducated can believe practically anything,

Uneducated?

Man I feel like I am the only human on Earth that realizes a "chem trail" is pretty much anything in existence (with a few exceptions).

I don't think we are on the same page here.

I am trying to figure out which of the 5 or so possibilities this is.

Please don't simply reject it and pretend you know it's definitely one of the 5 without even giving legit reasons for why some of them are unreasonable.

Explain why it could not be ozone rebuilding or weather modification. I won't really bother to have you explain 'poison clouds' because that one really isn't a good theory (IMHO).

I don't like the poison cloud theory because I have met thousands of humans and none of them seemed sick from something like that.

So IF poison cloud spray operations EVER happened, they were obviously extremely limited in scope and cannot possibly account for the countless reports piling in.

So this leaves us with the better theories.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Yeah it's a MCD KC-10 .

en.wikipedia.org...

It is a tanker aircraft after all. Designed to carry large amounts of 'fuel'.

Yeah the areas where he says they are "nozzles" is almost certainly the wing stabilizers. Just look at any pics of the KC-10.

I have a few questions now that I think about it more.

#1) how does this random pilot get to fly right behind a KC-10 like this??

#2) is this type of flight maneuver even legal? seems really dangerous to follow that close

#3) who shot this video?

#4) who was the pilot of the craft following the KC10?

This may help us figure out the video better.

neformore Do you really think that US Military pilots following the tanker could actually record a video (even for a joke) and then get it out of the base and onto the internet (youtube of all places)?? Do you really think that the US military allows that type of stuff? I don't.

But I also really think it probably was US AF pilots. They are the only ones who would be able to get this type of footage, IMHO.

So, maybe it is planted to mislead or misinform?? Hmmm....

Who got the video?

KC Tanker (Fat Goose) : "Falcon 21...Falcon 21. We are have a warning light in sp2 and 3 (spray pump) and don't know if they are working. Can you swing around back and take a look? Confirm.


F 18 (Falcon 21)
Copy Fat Goose...coming around.


(Fat Goose) Turning off nozzles 2 and 3.

(Falcon 21) Copy Fat Goose.

(Fat Goose) Whats happening Falcon?

(Falcon21) Seems to be working properly Fat Goose.

(Fat Goose) Copy Falcon...turning nozzles 2 and 3 back on...confirm.

(Falcon 21) Seems to be operating correctly Fat Goose

(Fat Goose) Copy..We got a green light..Thanks again Falcon.

(Falcon 21) Falcon 21 out

THESE ARE CHEMTRAILS FOLKS!!!! I ALSO KNOW WHAT IT IS...We normal people call it molecules of water and ice crystals produced by planes flying at various altitudes. In fact, my truck does that when it is cold outside. You conspiracy theorists need to relax and stop freaking out those who are ignorant to the facts. The only spraying that is done in this world are for crops and cloud seeding. In fact, dry ice and silver iodide are typically used for seeding. Trees also seed clouds with Terpenes, a form of hydrocarbon. If the government were trying to control us, it would not be from planes, they would just contaminate our water supply...

reply to post by Phage


Yeah...vortilons/vortex generators...same principles and functions, but mostly smaller in scope. Sometimes to alter the airflow over lifting surfaces, to increase boundary layer adhesion, etc. AND to mitigate, in some cases, turbulence (vortexes) as the airflow exits the surfaces.

("Vortex generator" is a misnomer...it does produce mini-vortexes, hopefully to counter/dampen the other that opccur do to shape and design limitations).

Anyone who wishes can look at the engine cowlings of a Boeing 737-300 series (the -400, and -600 too)....the so called "classics", not to be confused with the "NG" (next generation) models of B-737.

The SNECMA engine cowlings on the -300, et al, series include the types of vortex generators we're talking about, to improve airflow and decrease drag of air that encounters the engine nacelles, before it approaches the wing's leading edges.


The little tabs are about the width of two fingers, usually, at most. Little metal tabs.

There are NOT "NOZZLES"!!!

Originally posted by Copernicus

This video filmed by a pilot yesterday shows clear evidence of a plane spraying something into the air above the clouds, apparently over Canada. There are many more videos on his youtube site.

What do you think is being sprayed?



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Haha - yes! Busted!!!!!

Condensation?? Then tell me, debunkers: why did the condensation just shut off all of a sudden?

Unless this video was taken out of context (a legit spray for something really necessary), we have a smoking gun here.

I knew I wasn't friggin crazy.

But to answer the OP: I have no idea what or why they're spraying...

reply to post by Mason mike


You're over simplifying things Mike. And you know it too, you naughty little diversion merchant!

The point being made is that we DON'T know what these things are, what they are for, only that we DO know they are happening.

The reason for coming here to discuss these happenings, and not frequent regular 'establishment' websites, as some of the regular and better known posters tend to visit, and who appear to copy and paste their 'expert opinion' from, seemingly to dead end a thread and/or garner praise from other members, is so that people who think differently or do not take for gospel an official explanation of an event or happening, can be in the company of like minded people from across the globe and perhaps work together on a particular issue, removed from the very official 'explanation' that they do not trust or believe.

The real question to ask, would be one of why do those that gaffer tape themselves to the 'official line' come to a website filled with folk who do not.

There are going to be personal theories one way or another of course, some might be right, some might be close, some might be way off target but you'll find plenty of that within the Oh so sacred main stream sciences and government departments too.


Nobody is forcing you to accept anything, especially from an anonymous poster, but it would be nice if people who come to a website to discuss the fringe, actually endeavored to have an original thought on a thread once in a while, instead of posting regurgitated establishment bumf.

By the way, if the government was poisoning the clouds...don't you think they would also be victims of this too? I mean, they also walk around outside and go to parks like we do................Sorry, I have to go, an alien spacecraft just landed in my front yard and I need to kindly ask them to park it somewhere else.

Originally posted by Copernicus

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Copernicus

 

Fortunately, a "chemtrail" is a paranoid delusion.
Unfortunately, irrational people keep ignoring scientific evidence & logical thinking, thereby unnecessarily scaring people who are susceptible to such ideas.
There is no such thing as a "chemtrail".

Scientific evidence and logical thinking is unfortunately missing in your response.
Thanks for trying to "help" me though. I appreciate your concern about other people who may be susceptible to such ideas, but I believe they can think for themselves and have no need for someone else to tell them what to think.

Copernicus

Scientific evidence and logical thinking is unfortunately missing in your response.

In that case, I'll post this info from my post pertaining to the fact there is no such thing as a chemtrail, because it appears you missed it:

Chemtrails? Need help?

Contrail Chemtrail Research Thread

The Chemtrail Hoax

Are these proof of Chemtrails or Contrails?

Chemtrail believers - I challenge you to debunk contrail science

Contrails: Understanding why they aren’t chemtrails

The Chemtrail Myth

This is not a chemtrail! Atmospheric Phenomenon explained

Why the Chemtrail Conspiracy is Implausible & Meteorologically Inaccurate

The Astounding Effect Of Contrails On Climate

How To Forecast Using Clouds Part 1

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by impaired

Please note what happens to the contrails of these WWII bombers at :46.


The atmosphere is not perfectly homogeneous. There are places where contrails form and there are places were they do not form.

Sorry boys i ment to say bairum,to much sativa.Not uneducated!! what you all think of this opinion of G.Edward Griffin

reply to post by coastalite


Now we're getting somewhere other than name nitpicking..this is just as valid a reason for these spraying missions as any other i've seen put forward.

I've had similar thoughts along those lines myself. Weather modification in respect of reducing the amount of solar radiation that hits the Earth's surface and so on.

Could also be an anti UFO/ET abduction strategy too.

Cover the skies with minute aluminium particles together with certain radioactive materials and other chemicals as binders and fall arresters etc, and you may just end up with a temporary screen or kind of shield that interferes with either navigation or tracking ability of them.

Your right though, who knows.

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not


In that case, I'll post this info from my post pertaining to the fact there is no such thing as a chemtrail, because it appears you missed it:

It appears you missed the revelation that the English terminology "Chem Trail" is ambiguous and vague and can apply to tens of thousands of objects etc.

I just want you to admit that yes, when we go to the toilet we are pouring chem trails into the city plumbing. PLEASE admit me just that 1.

This video/topic is a hoax.

Those are not nozzles on the jet, those are called "anti-shock bodies" also known as "flap track fairings" which cover the flap driving mechanisms.

Whoever made the video must not know a thing about aircraft.

The jet is NOT spraying anything. If you look down you will see how cloudy it is. This means there is a lot of moisture in the air. When jets fly at a certain speed, at a certain height, and pass through a certain pocket of air with a certain temperature, the pressure and warmth the jet creates as it passes through air condenses the moisture in the air into visible droplets.

When a jet flies through the air a pressure and slight heat is created on the out side. If this pressure and heat is below the dew point, it creates condensation.

A similar effect happens when jets reach Mach 1 and break the sound barrier. The pressure and heat from the sound and the jet condenses moisture into small droplets and creates the famous vapor cone.

Fighter jets sometimes even fly so fast that when they turn, the wing tips create vapor trails.

I highly recommend you read this:
Prandtl–Glauert singularity.

It is also mentioned when talking about wingtip vortices.

This F-15 is NOT spraying chemicals from it's wing tips....

I believe this video and this topic is VERY misleading. I think it is a hoax designed to make people believe a lie.

Why would someone believe something so much that they would create fake evidence for it? That is the real conspiracy.


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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by 4nsicphd

 

!

It is very, very funny how the uneducated can believe practically anything, especially when it comes to fields like aerospace and aviation...that is why the "chemtards" thrive so easily, addling the brains of those who simply aren't equipped withthe experience and knowledge to know any better.

Folks, in regards that video, again...in the very beginning, where the maker adds arrows and text and points to the "nozzles"???

Those are the HINGES for the flaps. I said it above once, it bears repeating, because I've come bacl with a phot to prove it:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/4728a6a8cbc2.jpg[/atsimg]

That is the "hospital airplane" ORBIS. It certainly is not spreading "chemtrails" all over the world whilst conducting errands of mercy!

See those big 'ole things on the back of the wings? Those are what pilots call "flaps". The trailing edge flaps, to be precise. Hopefully those with some measure of mechanical aptitude will instantly recognize the relationship they have, and function they serve for the FLAPS!

just what are you debunking here,.. maybe the guy doesn't know the planes parts well but their spraying something,.. whos the tard

[edit on 18-7-2010 by Lil Drummerboy]

Chem-trails(CONTRAILS) will only be produced at certain altitudes, temperatures and air pressures...Here is an example. www.youtube.com...