Crop circle - July 17th, 2010 - Hypercube

Originally posted by micpsi

Originally posted by nerbot

If someone says they know what is a man made circle and what is "the real deal" and I ask them to show me the proof to verify how they know that difference, I am asking for information, therefore the burden of proof is for them to show me/us.

Rigid criteria for distinguishing between man-made and non-man-made crop circles have been developed over the years. They are regularly used by serious investigators.

Firstly, one can NEVER judge according to the quality of the crop circle. This is a subjective judgment over which different people will argue. Objective criteria are:
1. stalks inside pristine crop circles must show no signs of being snapped or splintered. Until human can learn to levitate, this is a reliable indication that the formation is not man-made;
2. some nodes on stalks must be swollen and elongated to a statistically significant degree, showing expulsion cavities in the walls of the nodes, where the superheated sap inside the stalk has been converted to steam and been blown out. See examples here:
www.bltresearch.com...
(scroll down to pics).
3. The plants must have been downed by significant bending at the nodes. If not, they have been mechanically crushed by boots and boards. Bending of most stalks near the ground and no sign of fractures or broken stalks is an excellent indication of non-human involvement. Care must be taken to take into account of phototropism and gravitropism;

Other criteria for distinguishing genuine from man-made crop circles are listed at Nancy Talbott's website:
www.bltresearch.com...

Excellent! Thank you for the info and the links. Most crop circles cant be explained away as men with planks....

Going to do some reading around this.

Originally posted by BillabongNath
reply to post by Charismagic

 

3 6 sided cubes. 666.

Would give you a thumbs up if I could! Ya got it right! Thats why I have been studying this closely.

Edit: Found out I can!

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Charismagic]

Originally posted by -W1LL

Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by queenannie38
sorry for the long quotes, but you wanted proof and so here it is. nothing required from you but to read - you don't even have to click anything unless you just want to, so there are source links provided.

I'm still waiting for you to show me the PROOF!

As everyone should know, witness testimony is fallible and cannot be guaranteed.

Nice pics, but can you show me what I asked for....I don't think so. At best this may be considered as "evidence" but not the 100% proof to back up your "real deal" statement, so I'll point out that so far, you are wrong and do not comprehend what the "real deal" actually is.

cheers, wanna try again?

Nerbot the burden of proof is on you. read my post a few back!
BENT NODES!!! again I will say to anyone who thinks CC can be exactly copied by man... duplicate the nodes.

Hey W1ll, nice nick!

The point is, lets look at the various pointers

a) In spite of every evidence to the contrary, lots of people still believe men with planks...

micpsi gave some extremely interesting links there.

b) People take anomalies and TRY to FORCE them into perspective with their current knowledge and line of thinking...

c) People IGNORE the basic human needs of MOTIVE and RECOGNITION..


Me? I just keep an open mind, enjoy the circles, marvel in their designs and possible meanings, and mentally salute whoever made the, from this terra firma or not!

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101


Thanks for the link. Again some serious exploration here...

plenty of crop circle vids Compiled from a variety of sources
Voices fron David Wilcock's "2012 Enigma"
www.divinecosmos.com
and by David Icke "Sound and Matter"
www.davidicke.com

Originally posted by BillabongNath


3 6 sided cubes. 666.

oh come on! You can do better than this to debunk Metatron's cube, unless you are some village idiot level dolt. It is 6 sides cubes X 5 grahically representated platonic solid cubes.

You may fool some, but at least majority still have their 5 senses intact and a brain to discern better

if you know anything about sacred geometry, these cube crop circles are really REALLY deep. i only have a limited knowledge of the subject but it looks like a suggestion for free energy devices.

a device which utilizes the earth's rotation by using certain shapes and hedrons within other shapes and hedrons. if anyone else knows wth im talking about, help back me up lol

Originally posted by nerbot
Nice pics, but can you show me what I asked for....I don't think so. At best this may be considered as "evidence" but not the 100% proof to back up your "real deal" statement, so I'll point out that so far, you are wrong and do not comprehend what the "real deal" actually is.

cheers, wanna try again?

no, thanks!
there's no winning with the likes of you and i know this.

however, i DID win $100 on a wager predicting your response to my post!!!

thanks for being YOU, and CHEERS as well! i'll have a toast to you later on at the pool hall

reply to post by prepared4truth


I don't understand why so many people are impressed with what is really nothing more than a trick of perspective...it's not "deep" at all!!!

It's not a "hypercube", it's a 2-d drawn representation....you could do it with paint on a surface, make a sand painting, or just use a FIELD as your "canvas"...all the same principles of fooling the eye, with false perspective drawing.

Look:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/86fc69903081.jpg[/atsimg]

See? Just one example of what an artistic sort can create --- this instance paint on the ground, and it is ONLY viewable from one direction, to give that particular illusion...

Jeez, take a look at Salvador Dali, or Escher art works!!!

THAT "cube" is pretty tame, and somewhat amateurish, actually.....



[edit on 19 July 2010 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by queenannie38

As an arty type i can tell yea thats hard work an very time consuming ,,coming from an unartistic cat like you thats a typical thing to say!

Originally posted by DCDAVECLARKE
reply to post by queenannie38

 

As an arty type i can tell yea thats hard work an very time consuming ,,coming from an unartistic cat like you thats a typical thing to say!

now, i KNOW you aren't talking to me, Dave Clarke (5)!

i am very artistic and i try to never say things that are typical!!!
besides that, aren't we playing for the same team??

reply to post by queenannie38

Omg i ment "weedwhacker" Excusez moi! if yea pardon my french!

reply to post by Charismagic


i have some food for your thoughts!

in the bible, the 666 is said to be the "number of man."
i have long felt that it is a reference to the carbon atom, the basis of our biological life, because it has 6 protons, neutrons, and electrons.

Metatron, in one particular theory, is the "angel of Man" - that is, the collective soul/mind of the human race, on the higher realm where beings we call angels dwell and oversee the workings of the world.

so...Metatron's cube and the 666 go together quite well, from that particular perspective.

in the bible, too, in the last book, when they are measuring for the new city, it says something about the dimensions in regard to the "height of the man, that is, the angel." i think that might be a reference to Metatron.

anyway, i just wanted to share because you seem interested in that part of it, and i am, too.

reply to post by queenannie38


I feel its very strongly related to the cubing of the circle the hypercube and also, the matrix in specific, which is the controllers attempt to entrap us by limiting our memories and imposing this materialistic ruthless world on us. Ingo Swann called this the limited reality box many are happy to be stuck in, while in reality, biologically even, we have hundreds of psi switches, toggles in us and are multidimensional sensing systems, these suits of ours.
This was designed for our progression and advancement, not our repression and entrapment. So 666=entrapment in a llimited thinking, materialistic, finite, left brained even, box.

Its somewhat connected to what you're saying, so I thought I'd add it.

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by Unity_99


exactly!
i think it fits in perfectly with my little understanding of that 666 concept and the evolution of mankind.

thanks so much for adding that because you've added to my view, as well!

reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE




that's what i thought.
and i sure don't want anyone to miss out on their part of the conversation, especially when so dedicated as in the case of Mr. Weedwacker!

I am posting a message for the general interest concerning crop circles.

As background, I maintain an archive site (tmarchives.com) which is based on celestial information and the output lessons from our cousins the Midwayers, a classification of life just out of the range our eyesight. On July 16th, I received a message summarizing what we have learned from the Midwayers and other celestial beings over the years about crop circles. This message is courtesy of the Progress Group, Australia and its organizer George Barnard.

Of possible interest to this group, this message relates some information about the machines they use to produce crop circles. FYI, the term “morontia” is a semi-material state that exists halfway between material life (as ourselves), and spirit (as the angels). The secondary midwayers are electrical and make contact with all three states: the material; morontial; spiritual. They are quite familiar with the activity which produces these amazing crop circles and observe them being made.

Here is the summary concerning crop circle activity and their machines:

July 16, 2010

“The scant information about the circles that we do have is not just from me [Barnard], but from other receivers of celestial messages, also. Here goes: Crop Circles are greetings from on high. They are picture postcards from our Celestial brothers and sisters – architects, artisans, designers and mathematicians – and only some of these are former humans, now teachers and or students. Midwayers have nothing to do with the makings of these displays, but they, and other celestials, sometimes watch the designs unfold if duties permit some free time.

“The greatly complex morontia machines that make the circles are minded, pre-programmed, and their ‘fuel’ is the all-space-pervading zero-point energy. In our facet of time they may be seen as giving off some vague lights, but they are otherwise invisible to us, residing in their own dimension of time. They are programmed, and it could be said that they can actually ‘think’ to deal with small anomalies, but they are soul-less and have neither personalities, nor freewill. Crop circles have been appearing for centuries, more so since the advent of the Correcting Time.

“The circles are carefully placed not only to appear in the midst of a crop (instead of roughly straddling an edge of a crop), but they mostly have an underground stream at their very centre, and frequently do they appear on a chalky or well-drained sub strata. A long-lasting residual energy remains in the soil, and whatever crop losses may apply because of bent stalks, ensuing years more than make up for these small losses. Crop circles can be seen as a vitamin shot for the planet, and for the minds of many, above, below, and on countless other worlds.

“Not much earth-shattering news here, but it is all we have gathered in bits and pieces over the years . . . as ‘evolutionaries’ demanding revelation.”

With all the claims in this thread that Humans are responsible for the creation of these crop circles; where is the video footage of them caught red handed?

I don't see the smoking gun that humans are doing them ALL yet!

So where is the undeniable proof?

Originally posted by prepared4truth
if you know anything about sacred geometry, these cube crop circles are really REALLY deep. i only have a limited knowledge of the subject but it looks like a suggestion for free energy devices.

a device which utilizes the earth's rotation by using certain shapes and hedrons within other shapes and hedrons. if anyone else knows wth im talking about, help back me up lol

i know what you're talking about, but i'm not educated enough to add anything of value - my understanding is purely instinctual but bears up under scrutiny.

i don't think they are made by humans in the physical sense of the word. other than that, i don't know who does these and i don't try to guess.

what i do get caught up in is the HOW aspect! and lately my crude personal hypothesis is even being validated by those that study these things, and all that is related such as geomagnetism, etc., in the scientific world. which makes me happy only in the way of knowing my brain is in good working order and in tandem with my "gut."

i think that the "how" of these circles has a LOT to do with free energy!

certainly we can find out so much from the colliders and all, but i keep thinking that there is an EASIER way - much much easier! and that we are literally on the brink of breaking through the wall that keeps us laboring so hard for such small results. space travel is the perfect example of that. so much effort and expense for an activity that i think can be done in a different way altogether if we can just get out of the chains of our current collective world-view!

reply to post by Aronolac

I like that! its got an air of truth in there that makes me go aaaaaaa! thats better like a nice cup of tea!