Crop circle - July 17th, 2010 - Hypercube

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE

 

100% are man made.

Nope.

reply to post by Monts


What if they aren't being consciously created though. You say don't worry about how they were created or even why they were created, instead draw meaning from their design. Nature is full of sophisticated designs with no deeper meaning than efficiency. Fractals can be quite elaborate, but they aren't messages or art.
My point is simply that without knowing how crop circles are made we shouldn't assume that they are anything other than a naturally occurring phenomena.

reply to post by Copernicus



Now theres a perfect example of the way people get yea wrong! im saying that 90% are "NOT" man made!

reply to post by Chadwickus

Are you trying to wind me up?

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE

 

100% are man made.

You must have been busy all these years checking out every single crop circle ever made

As you are only asserting your belief, it is not very wise to make yourself appear so dogmatic on a forum that notes itself for open scientific debate governed by rules of evidence and sound argument.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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Ah! Our very own three Amigos at work when not at work on ATS!! Now you know who makes them crop circles!

reply to post by micpsi

Were are you from? iv been in an around the circles since the 80ts,if your from the States i forgive yea because you woulden "know" a crop circle because you have only photo's to go on, get over here an look at them for your self an feel the magic there in, then yea might change your mind!
when yea stand in a man made circle which i have the difference to the ET circle is astounding an unless you know what im talking about you woulden know the difference. PS dont patronize about the meaning of this forum give me a break!



[edit on 18-7-2010 by DCDAVECLARKE]

Originally posted by Copernicus

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by DCDAVECLARKE

 

100% are man made.

Nope.

Yup ;-)

So far, not a single crop circle can be proven to have been made by anyone other than humans.

Originally posted by nerbot
Yup ;-)

So far, not a single crop circle can be proven to have been made by anyone other than humans.

BUT not all crop circles can be proven to have been made by humans, either.

so there are a lot of unproven crop circles, which i tend to refer to as "unexplained." for me, that conforms closest to what we can say for sure about this phenomenon.

but i'm sure glad that crop circles exist! they are so beautiful and i never get tired of looking at them.

reply to post by nerbot


You cat's always hold on to this word proof! alright i know that there are more Star's an Planets in the Universe than all the grains of sand on all the beaches an deserts of Earth but i cant prove it ! can you? i also know when i see a UFO but because its not near enough i cant see its id if it had any but i cant prove it, its the same thing with crop circles i know whats man made an whats not man made but because im in the west of ireland an iv not been there when the circle has been made i cant prove it but that dosent mean that its not real!

as said before but not one skeptic has paid any mind to.

if all CC' are man made
how can man bend the nodes of the wheat or corn without burning or leaving any trace that the plant was touched as well as the soil beneath?

Originally posted by -W1LL
as said before but not one skeptic has paid any mind to.

if all CC' are man made
how can man bend the nodes of the wheat or corn without burning or leaving any trace that the plant was touched as well as the soil beneath?

THis has apparently been going on for decades right?
So If I were one that wanted to Catch a crop circle maker I would have already established a very large group of people to be stationed at these "places" where they are made(which so coincidentally happens to only be in the UK) and have people on visual and video surveillance 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
But it is always,... always after the fact therefor never allowing any possibility to generate facts of WHO or WHAT did it.

Originally posted by -W1LL
as said before but not one skeptic has paid any mind to.

if all CC' are man made
how can man bend the nodes of the wheat or corn without burning or leaving any trace that the plant was touched as well as the soil beneath?

Seriously, its a ludicrous idea that these things are man made even without that argument. People cant make giant complicated 3D patterns in corn like this in the time period at their disposal. There has been instances of people doing circles in crops, but those are basic, small and ugly. Nothing like this.

People would have to be working on these at night in pitch darkness, in silence, completing the circle in just a few hours or less. Have you seen the size and perfect composition of these things? A single mistake and the circle is ruined. Just getting to and from the circle without leaving traces would be difficult. Also the most interesting circles have been complex 3D geometrical patterns that seems to give a message about our future in some way.

Critical thinking rules out that humans are pulling this off, at least in my mind.

But hey. If some group can show that its possible to duplicate one of these circles under the same time, light and sound conditions, it would most certainly be interesting to see.


[edit on 18-7-2010 by Copernicus]

Here's how!!!

Please, has anyone ever tried to make a crop circle? I can't imagine it's as easy as everyone claims and would require a lot of coordination between people. Maybe someone on ATS can film themselves with some masks on and make us a crop circle and hide their identity so they don't get in trouble...

[edit on 18-7-2010 by agentofchaos]

but how do yea suppose they could film it in the dark without lights?

[edit on 18-7-2010 by DCDAVECLARKE]

Originally posted by DCDAVECLARKE
reply to post by PsychoX42

 

Sounds like your licking wickus arse there my good man!

If that's how it looks to you, then maybe you've done enough licking of your own to be able to identify what it looks like.

He's right. I usually disagree with everything he says, but, sorry...he found the template that the people used. Very obvious.

Just an observation.

Namaste and Love

reply to post by PsychoX42


Metaphorically speaking of course! serious man me thinks

I've read comments that what some see as a template is part of the design and shows Archimede's pi calculation method.



(taken from this site)

FWIW

Originally posted by PsychoX42

Originally posted by DCDAVECLARKE
reply to post by PsychoX42

 

Sounds like your licking wickus arse there my good man!

If that's how it looks to you, then maybe you've done enough licking of your own to be able to identify what it looks like.

He's right. I usually disagree with everything he says, but, sorry...he found the template that the people used. Very obvious.

Just an observation

Namaste and Love

No, not an observation, just a wrong, ad hoc inference. Firstly, you arbitrarily assume just because it was thin that the circle template was not meant to be part of the crop circle. Secondly, if human hoaxers made it, why did they not "hide their tracks" so to speak by making the circle wider - as though it were, indeed, intrinsic to the crop circle? Why leave something that is a dead giveaway to humans making the formation? It's so stupid in fact that I simply don't believe a team of hoaxers would have overlooked it. I think it far more likely that, instead of being a template used by humans, this circle was intrinsic to the design implemented by the non-human makers of the crop circle. After all, why would humans bother with a thin circular line that would give them away when seen from the air when they could have made a thick line that no one would find suspicious because they would assume it was part of the design?