God Particle has been found!!!

reply to post by Big Raging Loner


I hope you all realize that the discovery of this particle means we can affect it. And if we can affect it?

MASS EFFECT FIELDS

Has it ever dawned on anyone that the LHC or others are used or have been used as a possible hyperdimentional "gateway" through different "sheets" of time? I was looking into ET space travel cause there are lots of vids from NASA of UFO's traveling in the ultraviolet spectrum...so maybe they have been here all along right in front of us.

I think it is a possibility we have way way overlooked something here. There is something very weird and off about building something this great to "find" a partical. I mean...obviously its amazing and maybe they are...but keep in mind this thing is greater than anything we have EVER built before and with time running out TPTB might be rushing to "beam" themselves out of here...lol. Hmmmm...something to think about.

Oh...and everyone is alway rushing about "Where are the Aliens?" Like I said...they are in a different visual spectrum...they manifest from different light spectrums in and out ...that seems key to them being seen cause if we cant see them with the naked eye then good...they can travel wherever they want in broad daylight. And maybe their "cloaking" may be faulty when they are visual to us...thats why they sometimes seem so 'normal' just doing their thing when they are seen cause they think they are cloaked.

Food for thought.

FYI I think it is a real good cover story they are telling the scientists and people of the world...they are comparmentalising all the secret info about the LHC so it seems reasonable they are searching for the Higgs...but there IS something deeper to this...very very deep...

Originally posted by BellaMente
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but my source just replied letting me know that this is NOT true.

If this news is going to be announced at IHEP like postulated in blogs then I seriously doubt someone working at the facility is going to allow a grad student or undergrad, no matter how close a friend, in on information concerning one of the most important finds in history . In fact, I seriously doubt very few people (could probably count them on two hands) within the facility actually know of the data.

reply to post by Bugman82


They compartmentalise the information so yes only a few actually know the data...

Yeah...the OP should not have titled this "God partical found." Just to attract attention...got me. lol. But its good to discuss some of these things again.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
That is funny if Fermi lab discovered it.

CERN just wasted a bunch of money.

I hope you are right, it would be very funny.

Originally posted by Reconer
Yeah...the OP should not have titled this "God partical found." Just to attract attention...got me. lol. But its good to discuss some of these things again.

The article called it the "God particle" so he's not that off on the topic. But that doesn't make the article correct either.

It's like when people say, "It's going to hit the century mark Friday" and you ask, "what?".

"You know, the century mark, 100 degree temperature." so you ask what the hell a century being time has to do with heat. So they explain "I heard it on the news".

And you smash your head on the desk, such is equating Boson to "god particle".

I'm no expert in the field of physics, but if there is this Higgs particle and there is a way to control it in the future, then we can travel anywhere at the speed of light as there is no mass or friction?

There is really nothing spectacular about the finding of Higgs. It just confirms that the Standard Model was correct. I would think it would be more interesting if Higgs were not found in terms of the new development of physics.

Finding Higgs is a dead end physics. You found what was supposed to be found. But physics makes exciting twist of progress when you don't find what was supposed to be found.

It will be the beginning of a boredome for a while and physicists will have to decide what to do next.

It doesn't promise the time travel or the finding of a wormhole things like that. A lot of prominent physicists actually think Higgs may not exist at all. Furthermore, the Higgs particle has nothing to do with God by the way.

It is still a rumor and we will see.

Originally posted by kykweer
I'm no expert in the field of physics, but if there is this Higgs particle and there is a way to control it in the future, then we can travel anywhere at the speed of light as there is no mass or friction?

Theoretically yes. We would be able to add near infinite mass to bend space warping time.

In reality. You're talking about reshaping every subatomic particle in relation to the field which would require an obscenely vast amount of energy. Probably equatable to what New York uses all year long. Just to say transport an apple a few minutes in time.

In that situation though, mass-based time distortion "slows" time. It wouldn't reverse it.

reply to post by mryanbrown


Yes apologies for my alarmist title, but how else would I get all you lovely folks on here?

I have to say when I first started the thread I got a little over exited shall we say, and I was really expecting it to have broken into the mainstream news when I got up this morning, and most importantly been confirmed!
But alas so far not so good. So my intention was that the title would be fact by this afternoon. I am somewhat of a dreamer.

But still what is for certain is that they are closer than they ever have been. Here's an article from a few weeks ago about the success of CERN's latest collisions;

shenews.projo.com...

They have apparently detected the signature sounds that the Higgs Boson will make using a calorimeter.

To add a poster earlier mentioned that Fermi labs are looking for new funding presently can anyone else confirm this?

If so it could be the reason why they are generating a bit of buzz about the project. Not the most moral way of obtaining funding but hey I'm no particle physicist!

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reply to post by Big Raging Loner


If you cook with heat, you're a particle physicist Just not using the latest technology xD

Thats what i say all the time:

EVERYTHING IS ENERGY!

But there is still more left...

Originally posted by notsoperfect
There is really nothing spectacular about the finding of Higgs. It just confirms that the Standard Model was correct. I would think it would be more interesting if Higgs were not found in terms of the new development of physics.

If this illusive partcle Isn't found with the LHC or any other particle collider, the theory will still exist as it'll be mainstream thought till its proven to be false and they will throw more money at it just to find it.

Originally posted by notsoperfect
Furthermore, the Higgs particle has nothing to do with God by the way.

Sure it has nothing to do with it, the nickname god particle is probably a mockery of religion.

That's what you get LHC! BAM right in the kisser! Looks like they are going to have to postpone the LHC again (for eternity this time).



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You know, people watch these videos, and it doesn't occur that they are fantasy. I still havn't gotten over the "existence" of the graviton.

Rubbish - as is most of this line of physics - they are learning and discovering nothing.

reply to post by Amagnon


I wouldn't say that. If they can prove the existence of all the E8 particles, then they could unify all math into a single simple theory.

Which would make everyday things we do much more simpler. You would have better control of all forces of reality, know immediate causal effect.

(Could also be bad)

But I concede that the pursuit of the knowledge is vastly outpacing our ability to adapt and comprehend to what we already know.

All that IS...IS One. There is nothing but energy... "intelligent" energy=God. Just in the past few years, science has finally gotten on the right path to tie quantum physics and spirituality. They are one in the same. There is nothing but the universal consciousness which in the most simplistic terms...is energy. The ALL of creation...the stuff of which everything comes, is in all things, has always been and will always be.

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Imagine being able to accutely control a Higgs field creating"drag" on laser light and turning it into a light sabre....One can only dream.

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reply to post by mryanbrown


That would be the end of physics if nothing more is needed to be discovered. The problem with Higgs is that the Standard Model itself doesn't predict its exact mass. There are about over a hundred of different theories that predict the mass of the Higgs. The maximum possible mass it can have is 1.4 Tev. But that's about it. This shows how tricky the mass of the Higgs can be.

Even if it will ever be found, there will be a lot of controversies over the legitimacy of the discovery due to the illusive nature of the exact mass.

Personally, I would be more excited if Higgs were not found.