Raise your hand if you believe in the 'gay agenda'?

Well well...I am not going to burn any calories on this one. I am keeping my hands down.

Why?
Because I havn't seen any evidence of one...or of one that is suggested to be sinister. I'd like to see proof of an 'evil gay agenda'. And what their mandate is.

I have a feeling there's many on this forum who feel there's this gay agenda out to get them or something. I want to understand this...as we're all denying ignornace together...please clarify this for me, please.

It makes no sense to me. Grammatically I don't get it. It shouldn't have anything to do with sexuality, sexuality can't do anything--people do things. Also, the part of my brain that knows you cannot generalize doesn't comprehend this either.

If I am mistaken and nobody thinks there's a "gay agenda" I'd be glad to know that too.

-Before2017Victor

The main "agenda" is from the "militant in your face" segment that screams "you will accept us or else" stance.

I think it is gross to see two dudes licking each others mouth in public or on TV just like I think it is gross if a dude is licking the mouth of an ugly chick with rotten teeth!

Don't need to see it. Don't want to be "forced" to see it, like it, not say anything about it "OR ELSE" bullsh!t from the "in your face" types who are also trying to pass laws that tell me I can't say I don't like it, think it is nasty, etc.

Also, this "minority group" crap.... your a minority because of your "behaviors & actions"? Get real. Cut the attempts at the special laws and treatments.

Consenting adults can do what they want.... I don't HAVE to like it.... It is this constant "need" to be accepted or else attitude that I am sick of.

OK?

Not OK to many unfortunately.

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I personally don't think that there is one. But who knows I guess?

To each's own, some people have agendas others don't.

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What is this Gay Agenda anyway ?
I have heard it said on this site but i dont know WHAT the "Agenda" is exactly .

Is it to spread fashion, decorating tips, and rainbow stickers?

Well, I am as gay as you get. I live in San Francisco and I have yet to see any gay agenda. Seems most of the gay men I know can't even agree where to go on Friday night (which is why I am sitting at home reading ATS), so I highly doubt that there is a "gay agenda" other than just to be treated like everyone else.

If there were a gay agenda I would like it to be a push for gay marriage rights. I was lucky enough to be able to get married before they repealed prop 8 so technically my partner and I are married in the state of CA. A lot of my friends were not so lucky. But even on THAT topic you will find a lot of different opinions in the gay community.

AllinMyHead

Please clarify what you mean by gay agenda? Like a takeover of some sorts? The complete tolerance of society to homosexuality?

Yes we have the gay agender but i'm not going to get in to a debate about it because i've seen all to often how the mods are called in and i end up fighting with one hand tied behind my back.

The "gay agenda" exists only in the minds of the homophobic.

I'm more concerned about the anti-gay agenda on conspiracy websites.

Im gay, and trust me the only agenda i have is to get my mail man naked!

My opinion is there is NO gay agenda, just wanting rights for the same rights (cannot say privilege) to marry. Straight people tend to hold on to what they think they own, it cant be marriage, thats the biggest sham out there now, and we televise the shame of marriage with such shows as the bachelor.

Firstly we cant take away what we haven't fully given, I say gay people should marry the way they did in the days before it was deemed wrong. Have some friends, loved ones, and a place that will respect your decision, and have a ceremony. That is something that CANNOT be taken from you.

As far as legality goes, Ive mentioned this in my thread about sovereignty, as long as you come into a "legal" agreement with another its contractual, and witness' are even better. That would stand in court.

A gay agenda hasn't a leg to stand on. If we can have common law marriage stick in a court of law with a man that beat his wife, but not for 2 people that love each other for 20 years, well then maybe there should be an agenda.

Peace to you...

of course there is a gay agenda. why would a class of people who are deprived of equal rights not have a collective agenda to obtain those rights afforded others? is it some secretive plot to slit the throats of heterosexuals, steal their babies and make meatloaves out of them while smoking pot? probably not. it's really just about having the same opportunity as everyone else to try and get through this life with as much happiness as could possibly be mustered, all things considered. do i support it (i.e., believe in it)? yes, because it's the proper, right, fair, humane and correct thing to do.

I keep sending out glossies to the elementay schools, but I get no response! Guess I'm just not doing my job in creating converts. I have toasters to give out god darnit!

Okay...so far all who've commented so far make sense. Of course there's no evil gay agenda.

According to my research...

The "gay agenda" as I've read it and seen it to be is only to have homosexuals acknowleged as people too.

On the other hand, some people on conspiracy sites (perhaps they are trolls) depict the agenda as homosexuals trying to make everyone gay and rape children or some fool thing like that.
First off, the idea that homosexuals are pedophiles holds no truth. There are no more homosexual pedophiles than there are bisexual or heterosexual. Show me otherwise. And homosexuals cannot spread their sexuality. It's not contagious.

It's totally homophobic with this 'evil agenda' and it proves to be such when I hear them using those same old arguements against homosexuality. And as I was saying earlier sexuality doesn't do anything--people do things. If horrible things are done that speaks volumes of the individual not "homosexuals".
Am I right? Now I am just preaching to the choir.

The 'evil gay agenda' is in people's minds. But as some of you said there is an agenda, but it's nothing sinister.

ugh...
If I can complain about one thing it's that in the conspiracy community.
"ooh the gays are coming to get us" *facepalm*

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Well i dont know if i believe it. But many gay professors or bloggers have talked about redefining marriage and relationships in a non-monogamous way. And there has been studies that have shown that gay people tend to have some of the highest promiscuity rates and there was even 1or 2 studies that said 60% of all gay relationships are non-monogamous.

If thats there agenda then i have a problem with it.

While i dont support gay marriage if it passed i would probably get over it. But if this 'gay agenda' starts screwing with monogamy they have me as a enemy.

Right... because straight couples are all monogomous, never cheat, never divorce.. come on. Think it through. There are reality shows on TV (the Bachelor.. stuff like that) where it's a game to try to get engaged and married. Where is the moral highground?

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I've read that, that's just male homosexuals. Lesbians are most monogamous. Heterosexuals are somewhere in the middle.

Then again let's not generalize. That's not to say every homosexual is like that.
Seems the issues people have with homosexuality are always to do with the males. Of course strait men don't mind watching lesbians.
There's a double standard.

Anyway, that's slightly off-topic.
No that's not their agenda. Males tend to be more active, and also if you're told your going to hell no matter what you do...then why not mess around.
But, no I don't think that'd be their agenda.

If there is any agenda it's only to be acknowleged and accepted is what I've come to conclude.

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Originally posted by Tadarida
Right... because straight couples are all monogomous, never cheat, never divorce.. come on. Think it through. There are reality shows on TV (the Bachelor.. stuff like that) where it's a game to try to get engaged and married. Where is the moral highground?

There is not one. But the majority of marriages and relationships(heterosexual) are monogamous. Im not saying there is not cheaters or just horrible human beings in general. and i dont condon the bachelor or any other reality TV shows(which are not reality but scripted).

I blame pop culture and sexualizing the youth for this(and im 20).

Originally posted by Before2017Victor
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I've read that, that's just male homosexuals. Lesbians are most monogamous. Heterosexuals are somewhere in the middle.

Then again let's not generalize. That's not to say every homosexual is like that.
Seems the issues people have with homosexuality are always to do with the males. Of course strait men don't mind watching lesbians.
There's a double standard.

Anyway, that's slightly off-topic.
No that's not their agenda. Males tend to be more active, and also if you're told your going to hell no matter what you do...then why not mess around.
But, no I don't think that'd be their agenda.

If there is any agenda it's only to be acknowleged and accepted is what I've come to conclude.

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That may be true. But you misunderstand. Those studies were showing basically that they did not 'cheat' on the other person. No it was like 'swinging' or knowing your partner is off screwing someone else and being okay with it(sick).

Thats why the average gay marriage in the netherlands only lasts a year.

30% of all lesbians are non-monogamous. Once again not like cheating or havin a extramarital affair but like grabing a video camera and recording your partner having sex with someone else(just a example).

Basically they are swingers.

And like i said before if they are pushing that...well they have another thing comin. Im a 1 woman man. Everyone i know is monogamous. Hell the majority of the western world is monogamous(even with options like polygamy and non-monogamous relationships!). Most marriages end because people just slowly grow apart or they just 'lose it'. Infidlity may happen and it shows with statistics. But its not the norm. Hollywood would like you to think its different...that its common and 'normal'.

But like i said i dont know if thats there agenda...but if it is they have there work cut out for them!

There was a study....i think a year ago. It was basically a huge study done across the nation. It asked what was the worst or immoral thing.

They put in cloning.

They put in murder.

They put in cheating.

They basically put in any immoral or ethical thing in the study and asked which one was worse. Guess what the american people picked?

INFIDLITY. They picked infidility as worse then CLONING and MURDER. LOL...i was in shock!

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We live in a world of the grass is greener on the other side. Some people believe that we can find someone better. Throw people away, its ok, believe Axe commercials, beer commercials, t.v shows, where a nice looking woman is married to a husky/heavy guy.

NO! That doesn't happen in real life. Women and man, and men and men, and woman and woman, want love, security, communication and equality. We live in a world of vanity, thats why a woman and woman is more acceptable then men with men. Double standard.

Imagine if it was the opposite. People need to get over it, and deal with the realization that the possible thought of the "gay agenda" is scarier than other movements because people know that getting gay people is easier together is easier than getting almost any other group together to defend their rights than most. And not for the party but for the rights.

Peace to you...