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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Skeptic O, Alex Jones has been screaming about this for years. Just visit www.infowars.com for a tasty look into the upcoming police state. In fact, the prison camps and the box cars with shackles are just the tip of the iceberg. Alex has exposed all kinds of stuff related to this, including the camps themselves. UN troops, already here. Military troops acting as police officers, violating posse comitatus. Black helicopters landing in school yards. You name it, he's got it.
Patriot Act 2 gets passed, and it's over. They got us. Anyone who even dissents or expresses an opinion against them will be detained as a terrorist- no phone call, no laywer, no trial, and no limits to how long they can detain you. And oh, if you think you can tell someone they have detained you, searched your house, or even just interrogated you- they'll get you for that too. Seen HR-10?
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
Well, nothing personal, but it all sounds like rubbish to me.
For example, listen to this "Terry King" guy with his story:
"Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites and wanted to see them for ourselves."
Of course, he never gives any directions so we can check his "investigations" How convenient.
"The first one ... is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as part of a water facility."
ROFLMAO! Right across the park from our neighborhood is another huge FEMA prison, but it s not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as Skyline High School!
Right next to Falcon Field Airport in Mesa is a Huge Nazi Extermination Camp Operated By the Grays. It is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as The Boeing Company facility where they make helicopters!
Right down the street is another FEMA prison. It is not operating as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as the AJ Stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints!
C'mon!
"Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no prisoners?"
Uhhh ... because it's not a prison camp? You think?
"The fences that run for miles around this large facility all point inward..."
So do most fences that are chain link topped with angled barbed wire. It's an OSHA safety requirement.
"...and there are large mounds of dirt and dry moat surrounding the central area so the inside area is not visible from the road."
And what is that supposed to prove? We have a facility exactly like that about ten miles south of where I live. It's a GM Proving Ground!
"There are 3 large loading docks facing the entrance that can be observed from the road. What are these massive docks going to be loading?"
I give up, what? You tell me. Maybe they're planning to put a supermarket there. Just about every store or business that uses raw materials has a couple of loading docks in the back.
About five years ago, I saw an post by some bozo who said he had a map of where all there "FEMA Camps" in Arizona were supposed to be, and offered to share them with anyone who asked. He didn't seem too anxious to send me one, since I told him I actually lived near the location of those "Camps" and wanted to check them out for myself.
But after some cajoling on my part, he sent me directions to three of the "FEMA Camps" after first making me swear I wouldn't tell anyone where I got them from.
Well, to make a long story short, I went to these three locations.
The first was an abandoned camp set up by Executive Order 9066 in 1942. Anyone familiar with US History knows about that sickening episode, I would hope. Anyway, nothing there but one corrugated-roof shack with its doors off and a bunch of concrete foundations.
The second was a POW camp, also from the 1940's, where a captured German U-Boat crew was imprisoned and who escaped by digging out a tunnel and trying to hike to Mexico (they were all caught); and again, there's not much there but a bunch of decrepit foundations.
The third was on Open Range on the Tohono O'odham Reservation about a half mile off I-10. I spent a half-hour poking around and saw some interesting cactus.
As far as I know, every single report of these "Secret Concentration camps" has turned out to be completely bogus.
If anyone has any serious "evidence" of these things in Arizona, let me know and I eill go and look again. If you live in Arizona, contact me at 480-891-2525, and we'll go together.
But until then, I'm going to assume that there is no evidence for any of it, and it's all some sort of urban (or rural, in this case) myth.
Originally posted by caladonea
Here is another question for you all: couldn't HAARP bring about these (so-called - natural disasters) in order to make situations, in order to use these camps?
There was an area that contained about 100 black boxes that looked like railroad cars. We had heard that loads of railroad cars have been manufactured in Oregon outfitted with shackles. Would these be of that nature?
Originally posted by g60kg
but has anyone got any more information on these railroad cars with fitted shackles supposedly being mass produced. I have heard of these before but cant remember exactly where, possibily the Matrix documents. More links to sources and pics would be great
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by g60kg
Because it wouldnt be for livestock.
Originally posted by Nakor420
I've been on one of these camps. I was in the Massachusetts National Guard for 5 years. I did a tour of duty in Bosnia. While training to go to Bosnia, we spent 3 weeks at Ft. Polk Louisiana. They had what we called a "mock base camp" It was supposed to simulate the base we would be staying on in Bosnia. This base was OBVIOUSLY a prison camp, and was NOTHING like the base we went to in Bosnia. It was set up EXACTLY like the concentration camps the nazis had in WW2. It had everything including the double row fencing with razor wire pointing inward. Gaurd towers around the perimeter every 50 meters or so. It had train tracks leading into the base. The "barracks" we stayed in had sets of "bunk beds" that were made of 2x4's and ply wood, and no matteresses. We had to use our sleeping bags on them. There were also areas that were off limits to us while we were there. But you could see some of the buildings in these areas and one of them had a sighn that read "Showers", even though we had to take trucks about 2 miles away to a different part of Ft Polk to actually take a shower and get chow, because there was no kitchen in the camp either.We thought the showers were just not in operation, but now I wonder if they were showers at all. We manned the guard towers ourselves and pretended to be keeping people OUT of the base but it was clearly desighned to keep people in. This was before 9/11 so we didn't think much of it at the time. We just assumed it was a POW camp in the case of a big war. But one thing made the hair on my neck stand up when I learned about REX 84 years later. The plywood sighn at the entrance had various logos of differant government agencies on it, and one of them was FEMA!! Looking back, this was a FEMA camp!! And I can tell you, this place was no picinic to stay in. It was VERY uncomfortable and had ZERO ammenities. It seems some of the FEMA camps have cozy facilities and are legitimatly there to help families in a disaster, but THIS one was a concentration camp, PERIOD.