U.S. Concentration Camps

How do we know that 'changelings' or demons posing as humans are responsible for all this. Lower astral entities could have infiltrated our world ages ago. They could be causing humans to attack one another to keep us disorganized long enough to wipe us all out. Like the 'Illuminati' organization. And the religious rulers could be the culprit as well. Any psychics could look at the Akashic records to see who the villians are. Of course that would put them at risk for the Demons have these powers and more, and can sense when magic like their own is being used. So watch out.

What I am suggesting here is probably fiction like the story books that I read. New York Times bestselling books. So don't take this seriously. I don't want to name the author or they might come after him.

I know. This scenerio sounds like high comedy. But who knows.

reply to post by radiant_obsidian

Just to say that the FEMA could set off a supervolcano with an explosive charge and get people to go there and then when in the facilities, you'd never leave.

Also, I need a part for my time machine. I need a plutonic convulsive reactor, can anyone help? OH and the mother ship says "GLORNOOOK".

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Why don't we remember these words of wisdom? Our so-called leaders are drunk with power. We are mere pawns to the Global Elitists who want nothing more than to wipe most of us out in order to consolidate their power!

Originally posted by marg6043
OK, if these camps in the pictures are located in California, doesn't the public has the right to ask authorities in the country or are about them and what is their purpose, if tax payer dollars are maintaining these facilities the citizens have the right to see what is going on.

Perhaps a sizable group should gather around the facility and see what happened also the media should be involved.

I don't think liberties have been stripped that bad yet. Right?

See how far we have let this get out of hand. No the media will not be allowed to be involved because the liberal media is on their side. You will not only not be allowed to ask questions, you may get logged on their red list and you will probably be one of the first to get "picked up" and detained. Don't trust any one other than those ready to join with us and against them. You will not be given a choice...sabre11004...

Do the right thing every time and you will appreciated by some but astonished by many...Benjamin Franklin...

you gotta realize if this crap is true theres nothing the peple can do.if you think a few militias with limited weapons can defeat a fully stocked military your kidding yourselves.the amreican people have known for decades that our freedom is limited to what the government allows.the american people oughta laziness has allowed goverment to get to big and now has grown bigger than the people.realize this that if you revolt against the government its a lost cause.now with this recent election the people have handed the government over to the liberals who wish to take a way our rigfht to bear arms and speech.so as far as im concerned the people have no one to blame but themselves so reap what you have sown and stfu about it.its too late to turn back now.we have doomed ourselves to distruction.

Hallo from Sweden.

Regarding this camps.

Why should there not be camps in the USA. With all this maniacs` behind the hidden agenda, killing hundret of tousends when not a million of people in Iraq, only because of an big lie. Why not? The big wonder in my opinion is that many of them have an Jewish bakground. Pearl - Wolfowitz - Libby - Frum - Fleischer - Feith - Chertoff - Bolten - Berkowitz - Abrams - Mehlman - Blakeman and so on. Kissinger also stuck - up with many of his Ultra Conservative - Jewish ideas for this murdering Bush administration. Those who belief the twin towers and all the other happenings was the job of some Arabs from a rotten cave ... Forget all that. Another with an Jewish background was the owner of building 7. The let´s Pull it - billionaire, what was his name again Wein...something.
By the way...

Have you seen all the coffins in some fields in USA. about 500.000 coffins
in some open fields. It´s time for the people in USA to wake up from the Amerikan dream.

On the other hand, all this coffins could be the result of the coming planet Niburu they are talking about (even secretly in the goverment) coming in the year 2012-2016 or for some other natural or arranget disaster.

I am not an anti-Zionist. But you must make a big diference between the Jewish people and the Zionist agenda. I wonder were all that Power in the US goverment for this minority came from. For me that is somehow very suspicious.

Open your mind´s and act befor it´s to late.

IF YOU REFUSE THE R.F.I.D. CHIP YOU WILL BE IMPRISONED. CHIP IS WHAT YOU WILL USE TO BUY EVERYTHING, I.E. BANKING. THE BIBLE WARNS NOT TO ACCEPT THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).
CHRISTIANS ARE THE TARGET FOR THOSE CAMPS.

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Are you ill the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States are what our Fathers and Grandfathers and their Fathers fought for,if you think we dont need them why don't you move to a 3rd World Country and see how you like it then

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There is something very Hitler about it and when I talk about it, people laugh at me. I think they are all still in a state of denial. I also believe that some are so set in their ways because of organized religion and the media that they will never accept anything truly radical except their own views.

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You forgot #4. An outright civil war and I feel it getting closer and closer each day.

Very interesting thread.

For those who landed on this forum looking for information on FEMA camps, please check out the article link provided below.

The majority of the information on the subject floating around is produced by fear mongers and tin foil mad hatters. Take a moment to read a more measured and researched approach to this subject. This article argues that there is little substance to claims of FEMA concentration camps:

twitclicks.com...

(just providing another perspective, k?)

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I might have found a "concentration camp" in the UP of Michigan. I am referring to the old airbase at Sawyer International Airport, which was closed down in 1995.

General overview:
maps.live.com...~-87.384052&style=h&lvl=14&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Here is the weird part, in a recent satellite image by live maps, a train can visibly be seen going into the "closed" airport on a unmarked track.

The Train:
maps.live.com...~-87.401068&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

It then appears to go into the base area, wonder if anyone in area has a pic.

You do realize that most bases have tracks going to them dont you? And that KI Sawyer was a Strategic Air Command base, and that in the early days of the B-52 program, the simulators were on trains..

Mr. Overlord,
I suspect if they start rounding up people we will be on the list, for expressing our opinions. That used to be ok in this country as long as you did not directly threaten anyone. What a world we used to live in. As of today there are 163268 members on ATS. Just think we could all fit into ONE camp and tell stories of the way things used to be over the camp fire. I'll bring my harmonica.

Question. The time stamp on this thread is:

Posted on 6/14/2004 @ 08:17 PM

But the very top of the OP states:

BREAKING HURRICANE KATRINA CONSPIRACY STORY!
September 5, 2005:

How would a thread started in June 2004 contain information regarding September 2005? And Katrina that hadn't even happened yet?

The original post contains no edit tag, which did exist at the time.

Just curious. Does ATS have time travel capabilities? lol

Dear all,
I had heard about these "secrect internment camps" and was duly shocked. How could this be? And on my own U.S. soil no less! Well by god, I had to do something about it......RESEARCH! Within five minutes, I was able to take seemingly the best example of a U.S. concentration camp (Scawwrrrryy Camp Grayling) and find out just what those evil towers and poorly constructed barb wire fences were for..........drum roll please..........an enemy prisoner of war training compound! What a shocker I mean, who in their right mind would train our military to be able to deal with a prisoner of war population? America takes no prisoners right!??!!. Seriously though sit back and think about it. I wouldn't want someone with no jump experience being a paratrooper nor would I want someone with no prison camp experience dealing with a prison camp. That's like taking cops off the street and without training telling them they're going to run a prison. I'm sure they'd be a whole lotta carnage and screw ups before they got it right. There's a reason a cop is cop and a prison guard is a prison guard. So without writing too much more on it decide for yourself. Follow this link about Camp Grayling and see what it lists as part of it's training facilities www.mi.ngb.army.mil...
But that's what they want you to think right? Well if you're still not convinced go snooping around one of the ranges, I'm sure that'll lend some creedence to you stories about them fiercely defending one of our nations greatest conspiracy theories.

can you post the locations please?

I have been researching this topic after watching web videos that show some fairly convincing evidence of a couple obvious detention camps. "A couple" is the operative phrase here because although there are many different videos floating around, they are mostly all edited versions of the same original footage or the same facility with new footage.

There are many perfectly good explanations for facilities like this. All states and all cities of any significant size have prisons and jails. If there was an emergency or natural disaster, those prisoners may have to be moved quickly and it would only be prudent to have a facility such as this on standby.

To the logical thinker, that explanation is one of many legitimate reasons for the existence of a reasonable number of these facilities. Want another?

Pandemics have killed millions of people throughout history and it does not take a micro-biologist to figure out another pandemic will happen at some time in the future. Ask any trained person in the medical field and they will tell you it's not a matter of if another deadly outbreak will happen but when. What do you think the CDC does with the billions of dollars they get, buy microscopes and study germs? This organizations very function is to prepare for and contain an outbreak, of course they would have contingency plans for even extreme scenarios.

Not that it's any more comforting to think about but be honest with yourself... Don't you think they have a written plan for the extermination of a virus that includes the host if necessary? We are cattle to our government and if you think they wouldn't snuff an entire town or even a small city in the blink of an eye if they considered it necessary for the security of the nation, you are either extremely naive or in denial.

In all honesty, I would not necessarily disagree with that decision but I don't want to get into the ethics of a theoretical situation. The point is, there are many legitimate reasons for the existence of such a facility or even a handful of them distributed across the nation. Now eight hundred of these facilities is quite another matter. A large number of these facilities would suggest the planning for a large event that was expected rather than preparing for an isolated event that could feasibly occur.

Here is the problem with that and this is also where the whole sinister theory begins to crumble. There is no hard evidence for eight of these facilities, much less eight hundred.

There are many lists out there but most if not all are edited versions of the same list. Most often I have seen the sites hosting these lists say that the number of facilities is six or eight hundred but the list on their site never have more than a hundred or so locations. What credible evidence do they have for six or eight hundred facilities and where does that number come from? If they really had any evidence or even suspicions of six to eight hundred facilities wouldn't they tell you about every one of them?

It's almost telling enough that they only list a fraction of the number they claim to have knowledge of but they become even less convincing as you start looking down the list with an objective mind. Right off you can discredit a large number of them because they have perfectly legitimate reasons for existing.

I'm sorry but an operational, decommissioned or moth balled prison does not qualify as a secret FEMA concentration camp. There is nothing unusual or secret about it, don't you think the people who have lived in the area all their lives would notice something out of the ordinary? Nothing happens in a vacuum on our populated planet, especially in the age of camera cell phones, google earth and the Internet. Don't you think there would be pictures and video and interviews documenting the unusual changes going on at said facility?

Wow, 4000 char limit... this is going to take a second post.

Moving down the list you find a number of historical military bases. Again, these hardly qualify as secret FEMA concentration camps. Some of them look like detention camps because guess what, -they are detention camps-. This country is over two hundred years old, there are thousands if not tens of thousands of historical military and civil defence sites located across the nation. Unfortunately for the credibility of the FEMA camp myth promoters, none of these have been renovated for use in the near future. Have I checked each and every one of them? No, I have not and I would be as dishonest as the hoax promoters if I said I knew this for a conclusive fact. However, once again to sort this out you just have to ponder a few simple questions and let logic take it's course.

Let me get this straight... A person is supposed to believe that a world war two POW or detention camp that has existed for over sixty years can be turned into an operation ready facility without local people taking notice and screaming bloody murder?

I grew up in rural Nebraska and trust me, people would notice. Most if not all of these camps are in rural or semi-rural areas with wide open access. Children have grown up in these regions, had their own children, grand children, great grand children and maybe a couple more generations in the time frame we are talking about here. A renovated, historic military site geared up as a detention center is not going to go un-noticed and I don't care if it's rural, suburban or smack dab in the center of a city. Add to that fact the current state of technology and you would have to believe that nobody had the ability or will to snap a cell pic or video and post it on the web. Now common, be serious here. If there were any historic military sites that had any type of credible activity there would be web sites dedicated to them with pictures, video, google earth cords, maps and story after story of real and imagined events.

Next on the list are operational military bases, ranges and training facilities. By their very design and purpose there is little doubt that they could be construed by some casual observers as secretive simply because they don't have free access. A few of these may even have classified operations, nothing really strange about that, I personally feel safer with our military doing secret stuff in secret so the foreign spies that are all over America have to work hard or at least spend a ton of money to bribe our crooked politicians in order steal secrets.

The thing is, all of these operational facilities are really no different that the historic sites. People live around them and don't tell me that there could be any kind of serious, unusual activity in and around them without drawing attention, I just don't buy it. These sites have another serious flaw in being on the list, people with Internet access actually work in or have access by other means to these very locations and are willing to talk about it. The training facility in Michigan for example has been visited and reported on by a number of people in this very lengthy thread. I have no reason to believe their reports are untrue and I see no posts that attempt to discredit their story. Michigan has a vast militia and like most regions in the grain and rust belt, the people there are not going to tolerate much less be passive as a secret detention camp is built in their backyard.

Ok... one more post to finish this analysis.