The energies of the cosmos, on your birth-

reply to post by Tragic


Im still playing, and excited, for this allows everyone to check alot of things. Im learning to let each screen load with one click at a time in the 'directions' so I dont over click where I am wanting to view.

If people want to check the 'age' we are in....time in a birth time of March 20th for this year....and it shows you where the Sun is at on Spring Equinox, which shows you we are still in the age of Pisces....but we are getting closer slowly to the age of Aquarius. We will enter the cusp of these two ages in about 200 years give or take...we will ride the cusp for another 200 years or so...and be fully in Aquarius in about 2500-2600ad.

Depending on what season you are born in, depends if you should be looking directly east or not for the Sun. If you search a date and are looking in the east view and dont see the Sun....move a bit to the south east view and see if you start to see the 'signs' of the wheel or not. Winter sun rises closer to the south east position. If you click through each hour of the day to view the entire wheel....dont forget when you get to 'noon' time...to change the 'time' to pm.....or it will just take you back to 12am.

Everyone can view their planets, moon, and sun with this link tragic gave us....if anyone has trouble figuring out how to view everything for their day just let us know and someone can guide you through.

I choose to click on the box 'hide daylight' because it makes viewing easier.

This even let me jump to '4000' ad!!! Which is great so everyone can check out how things change. It takes it a little while to load a date that far away...but it did do it....I looked up March 20th year 4000 and it shows us for that time being defiantly in the age of Aquarius then.

All my best Tragic!
LV

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www.starrynighteducation.com...=4&LatD=33&LatM=31.260000000000048&LatRG=N&LonD=86&LonM=48.179999999999836&LonRG=W&HH=09&Min =00&AmPm=1&MM=3&DD=20&YY=2600&DST=Yes&SD=Yes&LocMMA=&LabStar=Yes&Lab=Yes&Cons=Yes&Hor=Yes&SG=&PW=410&PH=358&Az=90&FOV=90&Alt=25&Elev=3&LocN=Earth&Expl ore=No&

Here is another widget from night sky that lets you type in future years....unlike the birthday one...which only goes up to 2009.

What use this is if one is interested in watching how we slowly change ages or how the Suns stary background changes slowly over time.

Examples....type in March 20th for 2010 and see where the Sun is on our Spring Equinox. This is how we determine our 'age'.

Now type in March 20th 2600....and see how slowly we will move into Aquarius.

This movement alot is what affects the Sun signs to change over time...eventually someone born on March 20th in the future....will not be a Pisces....but an Aquarius. Same goes for the workings of all the other signs.

If anyone needs any help observing any of this with these systems..,..just ask

This one is also allowing me to go back thousands of years to observe how things were long ago. People can look up their month and day of 2000 years ago to see why astrology gives them the signs it does (based on positions of 2000 years ago).



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Anytime hon,
Happy to be of some assistance

reply to post by LeoVirgo


And when the age of aquarius man?

Thanks

reply to post by SteveR


The changes of the ages is determined where the Sun rises every year on March 20/21, our Spring Equinox.

The Sun starts to enter the cusp of Pisces/Aquarius in about 250 years or so....the Sun will ride the cusp for about another 200 years...at earliest, it could be determined that we are actually in the age of Aquarius (Sun rising in Aquarius on March 20th) in about 2500-2600 ad.

If we look back at history, changing of the ages seems to defiantly bring changes, sometimes catalysts.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


The rising signs are said to change on a minutely or hourly basis, and in astrology I was taught they represented a person's history or "backstory", whereas the sun sign influences a person's thought patterns. For instance, while I was initially told my sun sign was cancer, my rising sign was designated as "Scorpio". I've heard conflicting explanations on how to calculate it exactly, but it changes throughout the day. Some say it changes every twelve minutes, some say you can tell what it is within the space of a couple hours during the day. If the old method is invalid, for instance, the right way to calculate it might have something to do with sidereal time. That's a speculation, but studies have proven people are four hundred times more psychic when their part of the world is facing the dark rift.

Here's a standard calculator: www.horoscopeswithin.com...

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Syrus Magistus]

Originally posted by Syrus Magistus
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

The rising signs are said to change on a minutely or hourly basis, and in astrology I was taught they represented a person's history or "backstory", whereas the sun sign influences a person's thought patterns. For instance, while I was initially told my sun sign was cancer, my rising sign was designated as "Scorpio". I've heard conflicting explanations on how to calculate it exactly, but it changes throughout the day. Some say it changes every twelve minutes, some say you can tell what it is within the space of a couple hours during the day. If the old method is invalid, for instance, the right way to calculate it might have something to do with sidereal time. That's a speculation, but studies have proven people are four hundred times more psychic when their part of the world is facing the dark rift.

Here's a standard calculator: www.horoscopeswithin.com...

[edit on 19-7-2010 by Syrus Magistus]

That is interesting info...Ill check on some things tomorrow...what I have read explained the rising sign as the Sun sign and it may be people see it differently, Im not sure. I could of totally misunderstood what I read

LV

Hi, great thread!

Birth date: October 16, 1960 10:00 AM, Columbus, Ohio

Thanks

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
what I have read explained the rising sign as the Sun sign and it may be people see it differently, Im not sure. I could of totally misunderstood what I read

I've always understood the rising sign to be the sign that is coming over the horizon at the time of birth. In tropical astrology, of course, it's not really the constellation that's coming over the horizon but the sign assigned to a given 30 degree arc of the ecliptic. In figuring signs the way you've been doing it with Stellarium, I think the equivalent would be to see what constellation is right at the horizon facing east at the time of birth. The thing about this is that you really need both the time and the place of birth to be accurate.

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Originally posted by americandingbat

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
what I have read explained the rising sign as the Sun sign and it may be people see it differently, Im not sure. I could of totally misunderstood what I read

I've always understood the rising sign to be the sign that is coming over the horizon at the time of birth. In tropical astrology, of course, it's not really the constellation that's coming over the horizon but the sign assigned to a given 30 degree arc of the ecliptic. In figuring signs the way you've been doing it with Stellarium, I think the equivalent would be to see what constellation is right at the horizon facing east at the time of birth. The thing about this is that you really need both the time and the place of birth to be accurate.

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Ok...that is making some sense about what sign is on the eastern horizon at birth. And yes, one needs the place of birth along with the time....I think it may be pretty easy to use the stary sky widget that Tracer poster for a general 'rising sign'.

Ill try mine...then edit hre...

Using this widget below....
www.starrynighteducation.com...=4&LatD=33&LatM=31.260000000000048&LatRG=N&LonD=86&LonM=48.179999999999836&LonRG=W&HH=09&Min =00&AmPm=2&MM=7&DD=19&YY=2010&DST=Yes&SD=Yes&LocMMA=&LabStar=Yes&Lab=Yes&Cons=Yes&Hor=Yes&SG=&PW=410&PH=358&Az=180&FOV=90&Alt=25&Elev=3&LocN=Earth&Exp lore=No&

I found my location with the map....then computed date and time of birth, then clicked on 'east' button at the bottom....and I see Virgo on the eastern horizon at my birth.

So going by the definition of a 'rising sign' that was just given....the sign that is on the eastern horizon at your birth...then I guess my rising sign is Virgo, but my Sun sign is Leo....and it would be possible for someone to have the same signs as their sun sign and rising sign if they are born during the time of the rising sun.

I appreciate the info and feedback guys....Im sure not a expert by any means of what astrology does...just understand the general aspect of alot of it. I hope to one day be able to take the patterns and ideas that astrology does use and make use of that with the true positions.





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Originally posted by SteveR
reply to post by LeoVirgo

 

And when the age of aquarius man?

Thanks

Hi Steve! Got some pics for ya..I took these screen shots off of the widget from 'stary sky' which allows us to look back in time and forth..its awesome.

So anyways....uploaded some pics to see how slowly things change....

Lets start back on the Spring Equinox of 200BC....We see the Sun very much in Pisces...





Now below, lets see the Sun now, on March 20th...




Now lets go forward and see what we have in year 2400, March 20th...in the future...




Now again, forward...March 20th 2650.....below




Forward...to March 20th 5000....below (age of





There are debates about when officially the age of Aquarius starts. But I say it makes no sense to say we are in a age when on the Spring equinox the Sun is not yet rising in that sign. I also, unlike many, give credit of at least a hundred years or so to a 'cusp' time of 'between ages'.....for the sun rides the cusp of 2 signs for a long time before fully ever rising into a new sign, new age....on the equinox.

But these pictures are interesting for the same kind of movement is happening with all the sings....one can see who if you were born long long ago....how you would of been one sign, and how today on the same month and day...you might be another sign...and in the future dates thousands of years from now if you incarnate on the same month and day you would be a different sign.....

reply to post by seentoomuch

October 16, 1960 10:00 AM, Columbus, Ohio

Hello seentoomuch! Hope all is well with you!

The Sun is in Virgo on your birth, close to the star 'Spica'.

Before the Sun rises on this day, Uranus, Pluto, and the Moon rise in the East in Leo.

Neptune, Mercury, and Venus all in Libra (your past/old sign that may still resonate with you and may still offer you alot for this life).

Jupiter and Saturn are in Sagittarius. Jupiter sits out in front of the bow (general direction towards the center of our galaxy) and Saturn sits behind the head of Sag.

Mars in Gemini.

Moon phase...
stardate.org...

My best to you
LV

reply to post by Syrus Magistus


By relooking at things, with the info you gave and that another poster gave...and using the stary night widget........I see Virgo on the Eastern horizon at your birth.

From what I have learned since yesterday I THINK this would be your 'rising' sign.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


Wow, thanks LV. I'm sorting through the info you found, fascinating, especially the part about the star called "Spica", lots of interesting history and symbols associated with it. You've brightened up my day, much appreciated,

STM







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reply to post by LeoVirgo


Thanks buddy. I was kinda hoping it was coming sooner than that.

Just a little info for those that are taking the 'observation' part of all of this seriously...

Today is the Sun's first day in Cancer. For all you Cancers...anytime you face the Sun, your facing the gateway of your Sun sign. Sun will be in Cancer for 21 days then it will enter Leo.

Those wishing to find Scorpio and face its direction...look for the moon tonight.

Those wishing to face the direction of Ophiuchus...you can use the moon and Scorpio to figure what direction it is in, though you may not be able to observe the actual stars of Ophiuchus for they are very faint. But just knowing your facing the direction, can be enough for a connection.

Those wishing to observe and face the king planet of Jupiter...about midnight, face the East and find the brightest object in the eastern sky.

Mars and Venus still in Leo in the western sky after dark...Saturn still in the western sky in Virgo.

For the moon and Scorpio see below...

earthsky.org...

The southernmost constellation of the Zodiac – Scorpius the Scorpion – lurks low in the evening sky tonight. You can recognize it easily because the moon is moving through this part of the sky. You’ll find tonight’s moon near Antares, the star that represents the Scorpion’s Heart. From the perspective of mid-northern latitudes, the Scorpion comes up in the southeast in evening twilight now and skitters near the southern horizon during the evening hours, its fishhook-shaped tail scraping along the ground.

For Jupiter...see below...(Jupiter is in Pisces, so find Jupiter, you are facing Pisces)

earthsky.org...

Right now Jupiter is in the eastern sky in late evening, rising around midnight. It’s rather high in your southern sky by daybreak. For the next several months Jupiter will appear to drift slowly westward among the faint stars of Pisces, the Fishes. Because of their true motions, Jupiter and the other outer planets normally drift slowly eastward against the background of the stars. However, during this time (which ends on November 19), Jupiter appears slightly farther to the west each night. You can’t tell this from night to night with just your eyes, but if you note Jupiter’s position relative to some nearby stars, you should be able to notice it over a period of a few weeks. On the up side, Jupiter is very easy to identify – just face east and look for he brightest object in the sky. On the down side, the King of the Planets is now passing through Pisces, which is one of the faintest of the major constellations. There are no bright stars near Jupiter. This makes it a little difficult to judge its motion.

For Ophiuchus, this info is for Aug 2 but I bet you can start to find the direction of it tonight using the moon and Scorpio as your markers....and dont forget, Ophiuchus has a sign within it...Serpens the snake that Ophiuchus is holding.

earthsky.org...

Look for Ophiuchus above the bright ruddy star Antares, the brightest in the constellation Scorpius the Scorpion. Ophiuchus’ brightest star – called Rasalhague – highlights the head of Ophiuchus and is nowhere as bright as Antares, the star that depicts the Scorpion’s beating heart. Ophiuchus will continue to be visible in the southwest sky (above Antares) on August and September evenings.

On sky maps, Ophiuchus the Serpent Bearer is depicted as holding Serpens the Serpent, which is considered a separate constellation. According to ancient Greek star lore, Ophiuchus is Asclepius, the physician who concocted a healing potion from the Serpent’s venom, mixing it with the Gorgon’s blood and an unknown herb. This potion gave humans access to immortality, until the god of the underworld appealed to Zeus to reconsider the ramifications of the death of death.

Using astronomy, for true observations...trying to bring the connection that the cosmos can offer by bringing astrology and astronomy together again. To make this happen, observations are needed I believe. To me, its quantum....and it takes a 'observer' to make the gears work.

My best
LV

reply to post by LeoVirgo


Thank you very much. I'm sorry it took me so long to thank you for your work but my internet has been down. It's good to know i still am a Sagittarius haha. Thanks again.

Hey LV,

I hope all is going well with you.
I have a question you may or may not have an answer to.
When you did my birthday, I came up as a Saggitarius.
Which is spot on when I read it btw!
I never really saw the similarities in Capricorn (which was my supposed sign) with me, so I'm happy!
Anyhow, you know where it says such and such planet is in Sag. etc etc?
Well, I think (if I remember correctly) all my planets were in Saggitarius.
Is that odd? And do you know what it means to have them all like that, if anything?

Thank you for your time in advance whether you have the answers or not.
All your efforts are very much appreciated

Much Love
Tragic

editing to add this for clarification:

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Tragic

 

Birthday: January 6, 1980 Birth time approx: 8am

Hello there!

Sun in Sagittarius on your birth, sitting behind the head of Sag. Mercury in Sagittarius above the head of Sag.

Before the Sun rises, Libra comes early in the East bringing Uranus in the middle of the scales. Ophiuchus (the additional sign to the zodiac that astrology ignores as being in the wheel, the path of the Sun) bringing Neptune on right knee.

Venus in Capricorn (your past/old sign, this is the sign that astrology would give you and it being your past sign, it may still resonate with you).

Moon, Jupiter (king planet), and Mars all in Leo, all under the Lion.

Saturn in Virgo above her left shoulder.

Pluto on cusp of Virgo and Bootes (a sign that sits outside the wheel).

Right now for true observations, mars can be found in the night sky in Leo, to the west...and Saturn can be found in Virgo, not far from Mars. Face the west after Sun has set and stars can be seen....your facing Mars where it was on your birth and facing Saturn where it was on your birth.

Moon phase...
stardate.org...

My best
LV

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reply to post by Tragic


Hey Tragic,

All is good here Hope all is well with you.

Im not seeing what your saying here...

When you did my birthday, I came up as a Saggitarius. Which is spot on when I read it btw! I never really saw the similarities in Capricorn (which was my supposed sign) with me, so I'm happy! Anyhow, you know where it says such and such planet is in Sag. etc etc? Well, I think (if I remember correctly) all my planets were in Saggitarius. Is that odd? And do you know what it means to have them all like that, if anything? Thank you for your time in advance whether you have the answers or not. All your efforts are very much appreciated

Here is what I wrote for your b-day...

""Sun in Sagittarius on your birth, sitting behind the head of Sag. Mercury in Sagittarius above the head of Sag. Before the Sun rises, Libra comes early in the East bringing Uranus in the middle of the scales. Ophiuchus (the additional sign to the zodiac that astrology ignores as being in the wheel, the path of the Sun) bringing Neptune on right knee. Venus in Capricorn (your past/old sign, this is the sign that astrology would give you and it being your past sign, it may still resonate with you). Moon, Jupiter (king planet), and Mars all in Leo, all under the Lion. Saturn in Virgo above her left shoulder. Pluto on cusp of Virgo and Bootes (a sign that sits outside the wheel). ""




Im seeing 1 planet in Sag. Im I misunderstanding your question about all the planets being in your Sign?

All my best to you!


LV

April 5th 1980. Rockford IL
5:37 am cst