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I was born January 23rd, 1988. What significance do you find in that date? It was right around 12 noon.
I’ve always thought I was a scorpio... I guess not?... Central Ontario, November 7, 1986 9:55am Thanks so much! edit: Good thing I didn’t get that tattoo!!
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Interesting thread that tarot reading...Ive been watching it myself. Im leery though...mabey I will just for fun.
For Venus, you should be able to see her, she is brighter then any other sphere in the sky, aside from the sun and moon that is. Im in a area with very little lights...and the sky is always popping out at me. Even a friend over on the 4th could not believe how clear the sky was where I live (she lives in a big city) and she was just taken back at it. It may be that you cant see mars or Saturn though. This might seems to far fetched, but take a trip to the country side, the 9th would be a good night to do it, Venus and Regulus are going to be sitting side by side in Leo. Regulus in the heart of the Lion, course me, Im so passionate about it, I wouldnt think twice to drive a bit to see it. This passion though built over time.
I bet you saw Venus and Regulus.
All my best...thanks for feedback always!!
LV
Thanks for posting this. April 5th 1983 Tx USA 1:20pm central time.
i see you like the feedback! i just hope i dont distract thats all anyways i did recall two bright stars at sunset and it was a pretty dark sunset, i tried to follow the picture you posted. i know venus should be square in the middle.. funny thing though is that i have street lights surrounding all over my house..and it sucks..it ruins my sleep, thats one of the reasons why the last 4 years i have become a insomniac. i need to either use a sleeping mask or improvise. so far i have some melatonin.. leo virgo i also want to mention that you bring up a lot of questions in me but they are very personal based.. like i feel like i had some kinda crazy plutonic havoc in my life, and i want to know how i can discover my descendant so i can complete my weaker half and how do u know you are right..i mean it like thousands of year of astrology and yet you are one of the peoples who chooses to stick with a 13th sign..i know your brother is a ophiucus to but is that a bias? ..and i don't know i just am confused and skeptical sometimes, but i try look for the deeper untold of life..including the untods of astrology itself, i find it ironic if indeed astrologers deny a 13th sign which is the true zodiac but is it realy the true one, we may discover more aout the earth in the future and may yet have to adjust the zodiac again! i know though that its about always getting more accurate with a more precise system. well from what i see also my questions how do you find the planets in accordance to the constellations body parts? do you look at a map of the constellations? what is the significance of the center of the galaxy? i also kinda want to talk about the aquarian age but all that info is in your other thread.. do you feel that astrology puts limits on people at birth?
There is also a 13th star/ zodiac sign called Ophiuchus. Of the 13 zodiacal constellations (constellations that contain the Sun during the course of the year), Ophiuchus is the only one not counted as an astrological sign. Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent. Ophiuchus is one of the 88 constellations and was also one of the 48 listed by Ptolemy. Ophiuchus was formerly referred to as Serpentarius, the former originating in Greek and the latter in Latin, both meaning "serpent-holder".
Taking the current constellation boundaries as defined in 1930 by the International Astronomical Union, the ecliptic itself passes through an additional thirteenth constellation, Ophiuchus, situated between Scorpius and Sagittarius. This is already recognized in Ptolemy's Almagest. This constellation, Ophiuchus is situated between November 30 and December 17. Ophiuchus is not recognised as a general Zodiac.
Unlike the zodiac signs in astrology, which are all thirty degrees in length, the astronomical constellations vary widely in size. The boundaries of all the constellations in the sky were set by the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in 1930. This was, in essence, a mapping exercise to make the work of astronomers more efficient, and the boundaries of the constellations are not therefore in any meaningful sense an 'equivalent' to the zodiac signs. Along with the twelve original constellations, the boundaries of a thirteenth constellation, Ophiuchus (the serpent bearer), were set by astronomers within the bounds of the zodiac.
In 2005, astronomers using data from the Green Bank Telescope discovered a superbubble so large that it extends beyond the plane of the galaxy.[2] It is called the Ophiuchus Superbubble.
In April 2007, astronomers announced that the Swedish-built Odin satellite had made the first detection of clouds of molecular oxygen in space, following observations in the constellation Ophiuchus.
There is also a 13th star/ zodiac sign called Ophiuchus. Of the 13 zodiacal constellations (constellations that contain the Sun during the course of the year), Ophiuchus is the only one not counted as an astrological sign. Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent. Ophiuchus is one of the 88 constellations and was also one of the 48 listed by Ptolemy. Ophiuchus was formerly referred to as Serpentarius, the former originating in Greek and the latter in Latin, both meaning "serpent-holder".
It is important to distinguish the zodiacal signs from the constellations associated with them, not only because of their drifting apart due to the precession of equinoxes but also because the physical constellations by nature of their varying shapes and forms take up varying widths of the ecliptic. Thus, Virgo takes up fully five times as much ecliptic longitude as Scorpius. The zodiacal signs, on the other hand, are an abstraction from the physical constellations designed to represent exactly one twelfth of the full circle each, or the longitude traversed by the Sun in about 30.4 days
The precession of the Earth's axis has a number of observable effects. First, the positions of the south and north celestial poles appear to move in circles against the space-fixed backdrop of stars, completing one circuit in 25,771.5 years (2000 rate). Thus, while today the star Polaris lies approximately at the north celestial pole, this will change over time, and other stars will become the "north star".[1] As the celestial poles shift, there is a corresponding gradual shift in the apparent orientation of the whole star field, as viewed from a particular position on Earth.
For identical reasons, the apparent position of the Sun relative to the backdrop of the stars at some seasonally fixed time, say the vernal equinox, slowly regresses a full 360° through all twelve traditional constellations of the zodiac, at the rate of about 50.3 seconds of arc per year (approximately 360 degrees divided by 25,771.5), or 1 degree every 71.6 years.
The equinoxes occur where the celestial equator intersects the ecliptic (red line), that is, where the Earth's axis is perpendicular to the line connecting the centers of the Sun and Earth. (Note that the term "equinox" here refers to a point on the celestial sphere so defined, rather than the moment in time when the Sun is overhead at the Equator, though the two meanings are related.) When the axis precesses from one orientation to another, the equatorial plane of the Earth (indicated by the circular grid around the equator) moves. The celestial equator is just the Earth's equator projected onto the celestial sphere, so it moves as the Earth's equatorial plane moves, and the intersection with the ecliptic moves with it. The positions of the poles and equator on Earth do not change, only the orientation of the Earth against the fixed stars. As seen from the orange grid, 5,000 years ago, the vernal equinox was close to the star Aldebaran of Taurus. Now, as seen from the yellow grid, it has shifted (indicated by the red arrow) to somewhere in the constellation of Pisces.
The precession of the equinoxes, a phenomenon discovered c. 130 BC by Hipparchus and known to Ptolemy, results in a shift between the two systems of about one degree every 70 years.
A small number of sidereal astrologers (such as Walter Berg) wish to include other constellations, such as Ophiuchus, in their zodiac and use 13 signs instead of 12. This results in a system completely unrelated to the zodiac as described by Ptolemy. While Ptolemy noted that Ophiuchus is in contact with the ecliptic, he was aware that the twelve signs were just conventional names for 30 degrees segments (especially since the Aries sign had ceased to be in contact with the Aries constellation already in his time).
For the purpose of determining the constellations in contact with the ecliptic, the constellation boundaries as defined by the International Astronomical Union in 1930 are used.
Astrology and astronomy were archaically one and the same discipline (Latin: astrologia), and were only gradually recognized as separate in western 17th century philosophy (the "Age of Reason").
In pre-modern times, most cultures have not made a clear distinction between the two disciplines, lumping them both together as one. In ancient Babylonia, famed for its astrology, there were not separate roles for the astronomer as predictor of celestial phenomena, and the astrologer as their interpreter; both functions were performed by the same person.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
I sense a humbled balances soul. Hello there!
Sun does rise in Libra at the top of the scales, right in the middle. Moon and Uranus follow the Sun, sitting also in Libra.
Before the Sun rises on this day, Virgo rises in the East bringing first Jupiter which sits at Virgo's left shoulder, then Saturn on upper left arm of Virgo, then Venus on lower left arm, then Mercury, outside her left shin, Pluto also rises, sitting to Virgos right side close to the sign of Bootes.
Mars and Neptune in Ophiuchus, Mars sits inside the right knee while Neptune sits above right knee.
All your spheres are in only 3 signs...and these signs are not spaces apart all over the sky, all very close together.
your born under a dark moon or 'no moon', The night of your birth, no moon light could be observed in the sky. I personally find the times of dark moon to be very nice.
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The dark of the Moon is the most powerful time psychically. It seems to lure us toward the deepest self, the longings of the soul, and restful listening is a great way to receive these messages.
It's been compared to the dormant seed under the winter snow, or the cocoon holding the butterfly. You might feel tired, or crave quiet solitude. It's important to make space for the unfolding of the spirit at this time. Like death itself, it's preparation for the new beginning that begins with the crescent
Originally posted by Pilgrum
reply to post by LeoVirgo
Thanks for pointing this out
I've never been into astrology at all but I just had to check this out and sure enough, the Sun was firmly in Leo for me as well with Saturn very very close to it whatever that might mean. I was born before 1950 btw.
I'm still not into astrology but astronomy has always been intensely interesting for me.
although I might abandon my humbleness by saying so
I have always been a huge believer that the stars can tell more about a person than that person could tell themself. My Brithday is Dec. 18th 1989 born at 8:16pm U.S. EST. Time. I would like to hear everything you have to say and everything could tell me.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
Originally posted by SeekerLou
Interesting info - thanks for sharing! Now I know why my sign never matched up with my personality, etc.
Am wondering if you have done Obama's chart? I would love to see what THAT says!
Truth is very important. Glad that you posted this. Most likely, we will continue finding out other so called truths are not as what we thought either, sad to say.
Obamas eh?
The Sun rose with Mercury in Cancer on his birth.
Astrology would call him a Leo, but he is a Cancer. Uranus and Pluto rise in his old/past sign of Leo.
Mars sits on the cusp of Leo and Virgo.
Saturn in Sagittarius.
Jupiter in Capricorn.
Moon in Taurus.
Venus sits on a neat cusp of Gemini and Orion (a sign outside of the wheel). Venus rides this cusp between Aug. 3-6 during this year.
I did just a general time for him not knowing what his time of birth was, I did it for 'noon'.
Edit to add, Neptune in Libra.
[edit on 3-7-2010 by LeoVirgo]