Volcanos in Iceland, possible alarm?

I was not quite sure if any of you have seen this video , it is quite beutiful and it show the beginning stage of the ash spewing from the Eyjafjalla glacier.

Sound is a bit on the high note, but it is music from our band Sigur Rós.
The video itself is from a man called Sean Stiegemeier.

I could not get the video to be in a larger size, so if it interests you i recomend to watch it in full screen on youtube, but im leaving it like this for those who are lazy

Enjoy





[edit on 19-7-2010 by Spacedman13]

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I've seen this before somewhere, possibly here on ATS, but enjoyed seeing it again. There's some great scenery in it. Thanks for adding.

The country seems to be rumbeling a bit now, quite a few small shakes around katla and some larger quakes up north of the country, there also seems to be 1-2 quakes in the middle of vatnajökull every 1-2 days.

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This is a picture from june, over 100 quakes around vatnajökull , largest was 3,2
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I also found this picture from Almannavarnir , wich is our natural disaster resource center, it shows the alert status we suposidly were in while eyjafjallajökull was erupting. It´s quite alarming if i say so myself, nothing like this ever came out on the local media. Problebly just to not couse panic, but if this was the case i say people should have known.

What the colors represent

Green=Light asfall and possible evacuation
Yellow=Alot of ashfall / cattle dies
Orange= Serius state of emergency
Red=Alot of Lava and Tephra / extreme danger

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The black lines in the picture shows our main roads in the country and as you can see only way out from reykjavík is to the north, and it is a single lane road. But like i said erlier, i would not get cought in that death trap, i would go steal me a boat

Eyjafjallajökull started erupting in ferbruary right? And it's been preceded by an eruption by Katla within 6 months or so in the past. (Even though another member posted there's no absolute linkage between the two).

Anyway the time for Katla to go off should be right about now? I'm coming over to Iceland in two weeks and i'll be damned if my only vacation this year will be ruined by a damn mountain!

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Well it is all of course speculations at this point , but yes history shows us that there is a link between those 2 volcano, but there is of course no way of predicting if it will blow within a 6 month period like it has before.

The idea of a volcano erupting should not affect your decision to come to Iceland as we have some kind of eruption on avarage every 3 years or so.

Would it not be a great story to tell your friends and family about if it went off while you were staying here.

" I was there when the mother of all volcanos went off in Iceland"

Great title on a book even

Im going on vacation in about 1 week also, im going into the middle of the country to a summer house, so i defenetly agree with you on the "damn mountain won´t ruin my vacation" been dreaming about this vacation for months now

[edit on 22-7-2010 by Spacedman13]

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Spacedman13

Is your Avatar a photo of you sitting in your garden when Eyjafyoll erupted recently ..

Seriously though, very informative thread, thanks

PurpleDOG UK

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Glad you liked it, i will be tossing up the newest information from Iceland on this thread, so people can be aware of what is happening up here. Also there is going to be some good disgussions about a sertain volcano called Esjuföll that is in the middle of our largest glasier vatnajökull. From what i have read so far is that is the largest volcano here in Iceland but it is not aknowliged as so. The whole thing strikes me as a bit odd.

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On the subject of the possible connection between Katla and Eyjafjoll you should be aware that whilst Katla has on the last three occasions erupted after Eyjafjoll, Katla has also erupted many times in between when Eyjafjoll has not.

Currently Katla has some sort of eruption on about a fifty year frequency (so is due), but Eyjafjoll's frequency is around 200 years. If they are so interconnected that Eyjafjoll sets off Katla how does it not work the other way round?

The more I think about this the more I become of the opinion that any connection is purely coincidental despite the fact that they share a common magma source.

My main areas of concern are (as I have said many times - sorry to repeat) Hekla and the Vatnajokull area. I have no specific good reason to say this, it is just a feeling.

Yesterday and today the area between Eyjafjoll an Hekla (freq 10 yrs), the Torfajokull / Tindfjallajokull area has been a bit busy which is something that I have not seen during all the time of watching this since March,except for the very occassional small quake.

Since Hekla is aseismic, and there is evidence to suggest that Torfajokull rumbles before Hekla goes, I intend to keep a close watch on this area. Nothing to panic about as the activity is small, I just wanted to note this again.

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Edit to say have a great holiday (I am jealous) and post some good pics on your return.

[edit on 22/7/2010 by PuterMan]

Originally posted by Spacedman13
What the colors represent

Green=Light asfall and possible evacuation
Yellow=Alot of ashfall / cattle dies
Orange= Serius state of emergency
Red=Alot of Lava and Tephra / extreme danger

I am curious that this was not published, but also curious as to the immense apparent overkill on the predictions.

Is this suggesting that they expected something very much worse than actually happened? I could see this as being a map for Hekla or Katla, but it seems to bear little resemblance to the actual events at Eyjafjallajokull.

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According to the picture , the only areas that would be safe would be way up north of the country, about 3% of the country would be safe to be at. Seems to be a bit too mutch, but if that is the case then there will be one red and orange map if katla goes off.

Maybe the young geoligist in the video i posted drew up that map, as with the video he seemd to enjoy scaring people


Edit. This map does not quite , "agree" with the with the mood over the eruption , as you could rent a helicopter to fly over the area, and take your jeep and drive right up to the volcano. But of course there were sertain days the area was off limit. If the area was so dangerous , why would they allow so mutch activity.

But again as i have staited before ( sry for saying this over and over again, but this somehow feels right to me) "We Icelanders Are CRASY

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There is quite alot of activity right now up north of the country , the quakes seem to be steadily incresing since 06:00 this morning from below 1 richter to almost 3 in the last few hours. I will be keeping a close watch on this and post how this turns out.

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The quakes do not seem to be stopping at the moment and the area produced a quake the size of 4,1 richter, it was a pretty shallow quake 13km deep. It will be interesting to see if anything else comes out of this. You can see the quake on Rsoe edis

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Quick check of Vatna and Myrdals shows no problems there at present.

I heard there was a 6.3???

Edit: I see it is a 6.4

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OK, what happened???

It did a USGS and vanished

Saturday
24.07.2010 12:04:15 64.048 -21.240 6.2 km -0.2 99.0 3.9 km SSW of Hrómundartindi
Saturday
24.07.2010 11:45:19 66.662 -17.977 11.1 km 1.3 57.85 13.5 km N of Grímsey
Saturday
24.07.2010 11:42:57 66.629 -17.923 9.2 km 1.8 30.23 10.4 km NNE of Grímsey
Saturday
24.07.2010 11:35:37 66.651 -17.893 8.5 km 1.6 62.98 13.2 km NNE of Grímsey
Saturday
24.07.2010 11:35:03 66.582 -18.194 1.1 km 1.4 71.38 9.3 km WNW of Grímsey
Saturday
24.07.2010 11:35:03 66.636 -17.924 9.4 km 2.0 66.81 11.2 km NNE of Grímsey

I think it was removed because it was a test of the Icelandic Nuclear Weapons Program Oops not supposed to tell you about that one. It was carried out by Julian Assange as part of the Wikileaks program.

Looking at your post Spacedman13 it shows a 4.0 at 09:00 which has also been removed. Do they have an instrument problem I wonder??

This list in Icelandic still shows the 6.4 long after it has gone from the English version.

Dagsetning Tími Breidd Lengd Dýpi Stærð Gæði Staður
2010-07-24 13:06:56,5 63,671 -19,431 4,8 1,2 50,39 2,6 km ASA af Básum
2010-07-24 13:06:35,7 64,513 -17,598 4,5 1,9 65,64 10,5 km ANA af Hamrinum
2010-07-24 12:59:39,9 63,964 -19,367 2,2 1,5 90,03 13,5 km NNV af Álftavatni
2010-07-24 12:04:15,4 64,038 -21,231 1,3 6,4 55,89 4,7 km SSV af Hrómundartindi
2010-07-24 11:45:19,8 66,662 -17,977 11,1 1,3 57,85 13,5 km N af Grímsey
2010-07-24 11:42:57,9 66,629 -17,923 9,2 1,8 30,23 10,4 km NNA af Grímsey
2010-07-24 11:35:37,3 66,651 -17,893 8,5 1,6 62,98 13,2 km NNA af Grímsey
2010-07-24 11:35:03,0 66,636 -17,924 9,4 2,0 66,81 11,2 km NNA af Grímsey

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I'm sorry for the really stupid question here, but have anyone checked with USGS regarding these disappearances? My guess would be the same as some have already suggested, a hardware glitch. But then again, a M6.4 is waaay too big to be a misread so why isn't this showing up at USGS?

It seems, but perhaps thats just my experience, that quite a lot of earthquakes that occur in Iceland never remains visible for long. I don't know why, but it seems like there is something USGS don't want the public to know (an imminent Katla eruption perhaps?) I'm not saying that this would be some sort of global catastrophe, but the implications such an event would have on the global economy should be worth keeping secret as long as possible...

As I said, I don't really know anything about the Icelandic seismicity. I just find it odd that the quakes disappear

Originally posted by rasalhague
a M6.4 is waaay too big to be a misread so why isn't this showing up at USGS?

Honestly it is nothing to worry about. It happens all the time and sometime with bigger than 6.4.

I have a suspicion that this was a misread of the massive amount of quake energy rolling round the world as the result of the Indonesian quakes. (But I am still curious about the 4.0 that vanished although that may be the same cause.)

If you take a look at the rather large picture I posted here of the Live Internet Seismic Recorders you will see that they were all (nearly) black with huge traces because of the energy. The quakes in Indonesia were deep, and when they are that deep the wave (seismic) rolls round the world several times.

USGS only have one seismo on Icelandic soil which is BORG in the II network. This is the trace from yesterday. BORG.II.10.BHZ.2010.204 and this is the trace from today. BORG.II.10.BHZ.2010.205

This is the location of BORG - do not approach, you will be assimilated
~10 of 37

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I'm not saying that this would be some sort of global catastrophe, but the implications such an event would have on the global economy should be worth keeping secret as long as possible.

OK, it is VERY unlikely - in fact just not possible - that USGS would know about an impending eruption at Katla before Iceland does. First because they only have the one seismo, and second because determining an eruption is imminent is a matter of several signs, seismos, GPS reading, tremors and visual observations - none of which USGS have access to in Iceland.

You can rest assured, and I am sure Spacedman13 will back me up on this, that there is absolutely no way that the Icelandic authorities would keep that under wraps. The reasons are these:

• Jokulhalup - occurs when lakes formed by glacial melt water burst through the ice. These are VERY dangerous and the local population need to be warned.
  
• Fluorine - a killer for cattle and humans alike. This settles out with the ash and whilst it does not kill immediately cattle need to be moved away from it and the jokulhalup.
  
• Along with ash comes the risk to commercial air traffic. A pilot may not be able to see the ash, but it can still damage the aircraft.
  

Just 3 very good reasons why an eruption would not be kept under wraps. There are more, but that is enough to show you that if it happens - you WILL know straight away.

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As from what i can see is that the 4,1 quake was lowerd down to a 3,8.

As with the coverup on the goverments behalf on the impending eruption , there is no way that it would happen as Puterman says there are livestock and people in the area that would have to evactuated or atleast alerted so that they can be ready for such an event. There is no benefit in covering such a thing up, as with past years it is not any officials then our
"Almannavarnir" (our nature and disaster officials)that can issue such an alert.

Even though quakes and seismic pressure do not get headline news , they atleast print out a small paragraph in the local newspaper. The 4,1 quake got such coverage, and a 6,4 would get a headline, or even breaking news, as such events do have alot of effect on our surrondings.

If there would have been a quake of that magnitude anywhere in Iceland there would have been reports of it. But i went through our media and no one is reporting any kind of quake. The 4,1 outside of Siglufjörð was detected by those who live in that town.

With the 6,4 quake, im going for Putermans theory there, makes alot of sence that if the indonesia quakes were that deep that they would send seicmic energy around the globe and most likely show up here becouse we are over a triple junction.

If i wanted to go doomsday about this, then yes there are sertain things that indicate that there is knowlage that suggests that an eruption of massive magnitude is immenent. Here´s a small list of scary things.

1. Our president went ahead and warned the world( does he have inside information?)
2. If you check out the map i posted that shows the alert area while eyjafjallajökull was erupting, you will notice the area that is suposed to be in alert is way to large for the eruption itself, (kinda indicates they were expecting something mutch bigger)
3. From what i can see is that there are 7 volcanos due for an eruption, one might interpid that as there is tons of magma getting ready to erupt from any of the lava chambers below this country.
4. From what i have found out with Putermans help is that there is a wery scary volcano called esjufjöll that is 4 times the size of katla, right under our largest iceglacier, that is located right above the plume under the country, and it could even be considerd a "supervolcano"

But then again, im just tossing out theory´s right here.

Puterman, i was going through the seicmic graph where the 6,4 is shown ,, and i was wonderin, what does a -9.0 stand for , any idea? Also the list shows that the once 4,1 quake that is now classified as 3,8 is 3,5 on the list.
Are we playing some kinda guessing game with these quakes



Puterman , you were not supposed to talk about the nukes, it was a secret

Edit just noticed i did a reply to putermans post,, This was aimed at rasalhague, with mild refrances for puterman

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[edit on 25-7-2010 by Spacedman13]

Originally posted by Spacedman13
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what does a -9.0 stand for

I think it is where the computer cannot determine the value at that time.

Yes I think there are some guessing games going on.

Download this PDF file of a spreadsheet I made today.

I took the Icelandic list and the English list at the same times and compared the two. Theoretically they should be the same you would think.

You will see on the list that I have paired off all the quakes that I could after sorting them on date and time.

All the coloured ones are pairs and the white ones have not pairing. This diagram explains but you need to see the full list

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There is one pair I missed in the PDF list so that makes it 35 quakes that appear in the English list that do not appear in the Icelandic list, and 1 the other way round.

Since it seems I get more earthquake for my money in English I will not be learning Icelandic just yet!

Puterman , you were not supposed to talk about the nukes, it was a secret

Me and my big mouth!

Only word that represents my thoughts on this inconsistency with the size of the quakes, is WOW , (no not world of warcraft)

This just trully does not make any sence that there would be conflicting reports of the size of these quakes, i would think that the data that is gatherd here in Iceland would be sent to England and other country´s so that there should be consistant reports. But not this inconsistancy and quakes that seem to be "missing" from reports. This is truly mindboggeling

Seems we just stumbled upon a Mistery that is worth investagating.

But for now i bid farewell, as im off on vacation to a summerhouse
X marks where i´ll be
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I will be back in about 2 weeks i think, so untill then adios for now.

Puterman im counting on you to keep up this thread while im gone , i want some soucy info i can dig into when i come back

[edit on 26-7-2010 by Spacedman13]

Found you guys. I knew you were all hiding somewhere.

Puterman,
Why an eruption somewhere around Vatnajokull, guts?
Curious about it, as usual.

Till now what we are seeing, as already mentioned by Puterman, are seasonal quakes and nothing to worry about. I will call them "isolated" tectonic shakes here and there.

The only "curiosity" is what is going on North of Iceland.

en.vedur.is...

It looks like an ongoing swarm at one specific place. Still wondering what the outline means. (volcano, fishing zone, recreation centre,...)
That black triangle south of it could indicate a seismograph and going to try to find a graph somewhere, if any exists.

Keep up the good job guys and girls