Obama Administration Announces Massive Piracy Crackdown

.... I'd like to say that I'm an Obama supporter...

But this really gets my panties in a wad.

Entertainment piracy is the very least of our worries at the moment.

I mean- I understand that you have to juggle the large and the small if you're in the white house (God help me, I'd never want such a job), but this is just bordering on the asinine.

There are other "small" issues that the American people need cleaned up long before this nonsense.

And big ones that haven't even been properly addressed! Even if the BP-BS wasn't on the top of my list at the moment, I could still think of a dozen other things that the government money should be put to better use with!

How about you start with the border, clean up the immigration issues, get the finances out of the wringer and start looking into using your "play money" for things like.... I dunno... Medical research that might do folk some good?

... Although, I still think the BP-BS should still be top steak on your plate.

I'm not saying if I support, or don't support, piracy. It's illegal--- but so is marijuana. So was Alcohol back in the day. And walking around in public in scanty outfits.

I personally believe that certain artists (more than a couple) intentionally pirate copies of their music/entertainment in order to get more fans. After all-- fans are the ones who buy the merch (as it's been stated several times in this thread already).

Isn't this something the Russians announced last week. Who's thinking up these points. It looks as Obama has the same "mentors" as the Russians.
So what's next "thought crime?"

Originally posted by Widdershins

Entertainment piracy is the very least of our worries at the moment.

I mean- I understand that you have to juggle the large and the small if you're in the white house (God help me, I'd never want such a job), but this is just bordering on the asinine.

This is not a little problem, it is a very big problem. This is the basis of our republic. The taking away of the life, liberty, or property of the individual without any due process is the opposite of what our country was founded on. This government already doesn't like criticism and doesn't appreciate free speech.



[edit on 24-6-2010 by m khan]

reply to post by jdills1196


It would be interesting to know if those singing along with Faul McCartney at Hussein's little award shindig paid him for that? You've got to look on the bright side. With mounting unemployment, crappy health care, a polluted ocean, a phony POTUS giving out awards to phony musicians and some POS flying across the universe (oops) to take us all out and end the Mayan calender, three square and a cot sounds very inviting for the few remaining months. I wonder if Faul has his receipts from paying Tavistock for their compositions?

Your government loves you. Yeah, yeah, well...... not so much.

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Hang on a second, what if someone is doing some research on torrent sharing and types in a term similar to that quoted in the OP, that person is now going to prison? What an utter disgrace.

What's funny about this is that it's all down to the music industry beginning to realise they are losing their monopoly. In the past artists needed them to get their music to the public as they coudln't afford the publishing costs, and in return the record companies would strip the artist of revenue. I wondere how many people realise that record companies take between 10-90% of an artists income! That's right, 90% of some artists income is taken by companies who have no talent themselves, they're just leeches.

It's a desparate attempt and it may work for a while but as the internet creeps further and further into our lives, as the older generation die off and the newer, more tech savvy generation become the main consumers, the music industry will undergo a revolution. Some may say the revolution has already begun.

Record companies have no real talent or skill, they take money from the artist, feed off of their talents and it needs to end.

reply to post by jdills1196


Thanks for the link. I got a very good laugh this morning. If necrophiliac Obumbles wants to get in bed with George Orwell and the "Thought Crime" detail, then he should go to his grave and do it there. Don't drag the rest of the American people into it.

When I "pirate" movies, I usually end up buying the DVD anyway, so I can watch it in HD on my TV. When I "pirate" music, if I like the first few tracks on an album, I usually end up buying the whole thing on iTunes. If I "pirate" games, I usually end up buying it eventually, because the pirated versions always have little annoying bugs in them. Piracy does not hurt the already multi-billion dollar entertainment industry. If I like someone's work after trying it out, I buy it to support them and their efforts.

I'm proud to be a pirate.


Peace be with you.

-truthseeker

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


According to the article, Yeah.. It's so stupid... How would you even enforce it?

If obama starts going after people who download song's that they can just as easy get of the radio that play for free.....i will never buy a cd again its that simple.

i got a dvd-r on my tv ..they sell it at walmart for pete sake.
If i record my favorite season of americas got talent ..even if i paid for the cable and the dvd-r legally.
i am now a pirate by today's standard.

Hey brother can i borrow last night's episode of americas got talent?
Fbi swoop's in and i go to prison over a stupid arse tv show...common folk's.


either way they tried to do book the same way back in the day.
they went underground and printed book's for people and they would get death if caught...
obama need's to look at history.
more law's and throwing people in jail wont help his money backers

reply to post by TheAmused


Even funnier. If you buy an album on CD and then rip it to use it on your MP3 player, you are now a pirate. The laws need to change to keep up with the times, both in the US and the rest of the world.

Originally posted by jdills1196


So basically I can be charged before I commit a crime?

I don't think it's that unusual per se, i mean if you happened to be found planning a big bomb then you would be charged before you commit any actual crimes.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


"Technically Speaking" DMCA Will allow things like that, but if you let your friend copy your DVD or if you even RECORD it without the permission of the network and the tv show, you are in violation of DMCA and can face fines of $250,000 and up too 25 Years of imprisonment.

reply to post by Frakkerface


Actually there are laws against planning bombs but its stupid if I searched torrent "blank" or mp3 in index of "blank" It is illegal :/

Originally posted by jdills1196
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

 

"Technically Speaking" DMCA Will allow things like that, but if you let your friend copy your DVD or if you even RECORD it without the permission of the network and the tv show, you are in violation of DMCA and can face fines of $250,000 and up too 25 Years of imprisonment.

Yeah "technically speaking" is not the same as it being legal. You can still get in trouble if you rip a cd to mp3, even if you purchased the CD. Also if you lose the CD you then have no real proof you ever purchased it you can/will get in trobule if they find the files.

It's strange how so many artists share their music for free online and others are rabid about stopping people hearing it without paying. I think artists who are putting out decent stuff are often more happy to give it away for free because they know people will donate to keep them going and they know people will come to their concerts. Radiohead gave out an album for free download and still made a few hundred thousand pounds from donations to them.

It's the artists who are greedy or simply have no talent that worry about piracy.

They've given up on cracking down Swedish Pirates themselves so they'll now have a go at people of US® to squeeze more money out of em. This is probably result of economic crisis and decreased revenues.

But they are doing it wrong. They simply need more commercials showing how every time you download a mp3 song one artist starves to death. I am positive that at least 80% of population would believe that and become strong anti-pirates. The only problem is that annoying and pesky free speech that's mocking the propaganda...

Here's some legal threats sent to a well known pirate bay:
thepiratebay.org...

Many corporations faced piracy in constructive way without changing laws or limiting freedom (eg Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla). Before you become "anti piracy" or "piracy" zealot, I suggest you research how this issue can be solved in civilized manner in times of modern technology through social integration and greater connection between consumers and producers.

US® is a registered trademark of United States Corporation.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Mostly independent artist are FINE with piracy, Labled artist don't care, and other artist are crying cause they aren't famous

reply to post by SassyCat


I love the US trademark

Originally posted by Hefficide

For the time being I cannot even begin to see how they could enforce a measure like this. They'd have to hire tens of thousands of people just to serve the warrants. And then the overburdoned courts and the jails that are way over capacity???

Are you kidding me? Do you know how many new facilities have been built recently? Inprisonment is a huge business. Jails are privatized to maximize proffit and the more prisoners the more money.

I'm puzzled how people such as Biden continually and repeatedly confuse the two separate concepts of 'stealing' and 'copying' as being of the same ontological category. My understanding of stealing is that it necessarily involves removing an others property without the properties owners permission such that the removed property no longer materially exists in the possession of the rightful owner. Copying on the other hand will not materially remove or alter what is being copied and what is being copied will still be in possession of the rightful owner.

There are laws in effect that give legal rights to copy and forbid others from copying a given piece of intellectual or creative property without permission of the holder of a copy right. Copying without a legal right to do so should be categorized as illegal copying but not theft or stealing because the owner of the copy right would still be in possession of the intellectual or creative property.

Although as I'm writing this I'm wondering if it is even appropriate to refer to intellectual or creative works as property since their value, especially in the modern digital era, lies almost entirely or entirely in what is produced in the consciousness of the mind of the user of intellectual/creative property. Therefore when the digital copying that someone might be charged with occurs, the phenomenological value (the creative/intellectual work as it presents to a consciousness) is not being copied but rather the potential cause of that value at some future time is what is being copied. I wonder if this means we are heading towards a future of mind reading chips that charge a toll upon encountering thought patterns that heuristically resemble copyrighted materials?

I'm not a legal expert but I'm merely trying to argue that the ontology of the concepts of stealing and copying are distinct and given that our laws are supposed to be based on reality, the laws and the enforcement of those laws should be done with an understanding of the nature of the relevant underlying concepts.

I think Biden's comparison between stealing from Tiffany's and copyright piracy is merely an effort to help the recording industry by attempting to "paint" piracy with the same brush as smash and grab criminals that already have a poor popular image among the masses.

sure, there is no other important matter to focus right now ...

I knew that this was coming. This how they force this crap down our throats.

If you recall Rupert Murdoch was complaining about Google and the ability to search for anything, copyrighted materials included.
So they are going to try to go after the root cause which is the search engines.

These are just more scare tactics. To keep the masses looking over their shoulder.

If you recall, one of the last laws that GW Bush signed was the one that made it a "Federal offense", and even created a special police force "Piracy Police" in which to enforce it.

The entertainment industry(RIAA and MPAA) is all owned and run by Zionists and they don't want to lose ANY money to the working poor.

Otherwise , How would they be able to afford their big S Class Mercedes and their Yachts ?!

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Haha I just posted the news article and my thoughts you guys let the discussion begin ^_^