(Australian Prime Minister Kevin) Rudd's leadership hangs by a thread

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK

Originally posted by gordonwest
Not sure *IF* most Aussies heard-seen the story on the news OR not, but Kevin07 gave about 40 billion Aussie Dollars to China. * I DO listen to NewsRadio *.

I cant find any info on that can you please provide a link?
Not that its got anything to do with this thread though.

I am not sure what you talking about, but the situation was with cleaning up China's pollution emissions. I just didn't know IF anybody else remembered or not.

Thanks gordonwest.
I just couldnt find what you were referring to as i was genuinely interested.
And please ignore my comment about your post not being on topic...I just re-read the thread title.

I got caught up in the recent developments sorry.

[edit on 24/6/2010 by SvenTheBerserK]

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK
Thanks gordonwest.
I just couldnt find what you were referring to as i was genuinely interested.

I _DID_ hear-seen it on the news. (With Respect) I just didn't know IF any body else heard about it-remembered the news story or not.

It was only a few minutes of the story... if I do remember correctly. It was one of those news bits that wasn't mainly talked about in the news type.

(More Information) can be seen by clicking on the Wiki-Link.

Oh Yeah! Wiki does have a picture of Kevin when he was only just 17 years old.

en.wikipedia.org...

Kevin Michael Rudd (born 21 September 1957) is an Australian politician who was the 26th Prime Minister of Australia from 3 December 2007 until 24 June 2010.

Rudd was the federal leader of the centre-left Australian Labor Party (ALP) from December 2006 to 24 June 2010. Under Rudd's leadership, the Labor Party won the November 2007 federal election against the incumbent centre-right Liberal/National coalition government led by John Howard (see Howard Government).

Rudd was born in Queensland and grew up on a dairy farm. He joined the Australian Labor Party at the age of 15 and was dux of Nambour State High School in 1974. He then studied an arts degree in Asian studies at the Australian National University, majoring in Chinese language and Chinese history. In 1981, He married Thérèse Rein; they have three children. He worked for the Department of Foreign Affairs from 1981 to 1988. In 1988, he was appointed Chief of Staff to the Labor Opposition Leader in Queensland, Wayne Goss. He was then Chief of Staff to the Premier making him arguably Queensland's most powerful bureaucrat. After the Goss government lost office in 1995, Rudd was hired as a Senior China Consultant by the accounting firm KPMG Australia.

Rudd won the federal seat of Griffith at the 1998 federal election during which his most publicised local cause was opposition to a suggested parallel runway at Brisbane Airport. He was promoted to the Opposition front bench following the 2001 election and appointed Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs and, in 2005, both International Security and Trade were added to his portfolio. He was elected leader of the Labor Party in December 2006 and he and the ALP overtook the government in both party and leadership polling. As the new leader he made major announcements on climate change, an "education revolution", a National Broadband Network, health and the domestic car industry. The ALP enjoyed a 5.44 swing nationwide in the 2007 election. Following his December 2007 swearing-in, Rudd's first official act was to sign the Kyoto Protocol and, in February 2008, he read an apology to Indigenous Australians for the "stolen generations".

On 23 June 2010, Rudd announced that there would be a leadership ballot for the Australian Labor Party the following day between himself and Deputy Prime Minister Julia Gillard within the Federal Labor caucus, following days of speculation.[1][2] Upon it becoming clear that he had lost the support of key factions required to maintain his support within the Labor party, Kevin Rudd stepped down as leader of the Labor Party on 24 June 2010.[3] [4] He was the first Labor prime minister to be ousted from office before completing a first term.

As an Australian, I am shocked and outraged by the Prime Minister's sacking. This strikes at the very heart heart of a democratic system. We voted him in and we will be the ones to vote him out, not some faceless men. Rudd's policies may have been unpopular, even flawed, but he had the right to argue his point and take his policy to the Australian people. It was not worthy of being sacked, not even close. Now that opportunity has been robbed of us and the decision made for us. Well, the Australian people will not look too kindly on these events. Its time we took back our government from these faceless overlords.

Funny thing is most of the woman i have spoken today are overjoyed there is a female PM and most of the guys are outraged Rudd got stabbed in the back..... but none of them considered what it meant to have the choice taken from us.

That made me mad.

Im not sure what the rules are but imo the honourable thing to do now is for Gillard to call an election asap and give our freedom of choice back.

Or can the public force an election?

[edit on 24/6/2010 by SvenTheBerserK]

Oh no I can't help it all this estrogen flooding my brain has taken away my ability to reason because I am just so overjoyed that we have a WOMAN as Prime Minister!






[edit on 24-6-2010 by riley]

Now would be a great time for the Liberal party to bring Peter Costello out of hiding and run for the leadership.

I am not sure about Gillard vs. Abbot...

But Costello vs Gillard...pretty easy win for the Liberal party I predict.

[edit on 24/6/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK
Im not sure what the rules are but imo the honourable thing to do now is for Gillard to call an election asap and give our freedom of choice back.

Or can the public force an election?

[edit on 24/6/2010 by SvenTheBerserK]

Why? under the australias electoral rules , you vote for Party , not person, in the case of leaders , it is up to the party to decide the leader not the constituents of a country under australias rules

www.smh.com.au...

Tycoons claim credit for a burial

MINING tycoons have claimed much of the credit for Kevin Rudd's downfall, saying the industry-led opposition to the resources tax was the main reason for the leadership coup.

As Julia Gillard yesterday opened the doors to negotiating with miners, the billionaires Andrew Forrest and Clive Palmer said the tax was a crucial factor in Mr Rudd's departure.

The comments came as the industry suspended its multibillion-dollar anti-tax advertising blitz, and pledged to enter negotiations with the government in good faith.

www.smh.com.au...

This just confirms mine and others earlier suspisions that it was the mining elite that were behind this.

Kevin Rudd sits on the backbenches. Picture: Ray Strange


is this dedication? or perseverance? or stubbornness? or defiance? or shameless?

I give Kev credit for turning up to question time and I think he handled himself well under difficult circumstances yesterday.

It does seem unfair, as if our vote means nothing...but we didnt vote for the man we voted for the party didnt we?

A lot of my friends, people I've talked to etc are put out/peed off by what happened and I'm not as confident as I was yesterday that Julia can pull off the next election.
And then we're stuck with Abbott.

I think the Labor party jumped the gun.

Originally posted by SvenTheBerserK
Im not sure what the rules are but imo the honourable thing to do now is for Gillard to call an election asap and give our freedom of choice back.

You just said "honourable" in a political post ...!!!

While I like your idealism, I doubt that is going to happen. But it would be interesting ...

However, I really do think the current labour government is the most grossly incompetent & immoral government we've been forced to endure in living memory.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

LoL you are joking right?, If not you were born yesterday or have a short memory.!!

The greatest deceit was the " never ever GST " quote by Little Jonny Howard before his election. Then when elected he implemented this, now I hesitate to say it in this right wing radical thread, but A vote for Abbott will be a Vote for bad government , bad environmental policies and a turn back to the fifties in Industrial Relations let alone one of the worst back stabbing political parties (Liberals) this country Has ever known.

WOW...............
I do find it a bit unsettling to discover just how many Australians appear to think that when they go to the voting booth they are voting for a person.

I have always been under the impression that we vote on the various party policies.

The 'leader' of each party is simply the front man or woman or puppet, whatever you wish to call them really.

Kevin Rudd was not voted in by the people of Australia, the Labor party was.
This, however, was reactive to the Howard Gov's lengthy and tiresome stay in power.

The Labor party was voted in purely to vote Howard's Liberal party out.

It's not Big Brother or Australian Idol - but it seems many treat the process as such, which is a tad scary

reply to post by BladeGlint


BladeGlint.....

LoL you are joking right?

Did I sound like I was joking?

"Option C.......".....remember?

:shk:

Sorry.....I expressed myself poorly & confused things.
Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Ok Thanks for that.

Originally posted by BladeGlint

Sorry.....I expressed myself poorly & confused things.
Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Ok Thanks for that.

BladeGlint.....

I thought we were having an argument.

Now we're agreeing!

We'll have to get better at this!

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

OH NOOOOOOO........

IT'S THE GLRUDD MONSTER!!!!!!!

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