What did the Jews do to make Hitler want to kill them?

Originally posted by mazzroth

Then and only then will it click in your brain that they have socially engineered the west as part of their evil 1000 years old plan. Ever wonder why its bad to be white and good to be black ? ever wondered why the US always fights wars that serve the Israel state ?

I am white and I am proud to be and so should you be if you are white.

There are clearly white people in on that plan, which by the way, is not even known about by the vast majority of jewish people.

Why do you think it is good to be black and bad to be white? It seams that blacks actually are stereotyped negatively in the media. Many argue that this was a deliberate ploy to deny african american children positive role models, and leading them into a life of chrime and drugs. This is why they are on TV idolized for their killing, and drug dealing.

The FBI was a very racist organization in the 50's and when through various ways of neurtalizing a positive black movement. Some of these efforts were in the form of introducing drugs. It is hypoyhesized that gangster rap is an extension of this tactic to drowned out positive black leaders and role models like martin luther king.

A person of any race, or even animal for that matter can be proud to be what they are, so long as they as an individual are worthy. You shouldn't be ashamed of being white, or black, or jewish. But if your are a guy like Hitler, you should be damn ashamed.

Where do you get the impression that white people are negatively stereotyped in the media, because I don't see it.

[edit on 11-7-2010 by wiseman3000]

[edit on 11-7-2010 by wiseman3000]

banking scams?
Plus they declared war on him and his party in 1933. Not forgetting that the russians were led by a jewish gang of murderers. Guess hitler was angry at this gang of crooks. Angry enough to want to kill them all.

Hitler was a Socialist by day and a fan of Eugenix by night.

Hitler and his party won a fair election "Nazi = National Socialists" they then continued to take over power bit by bit. unlike there Communist brothers who took over power all at once.

His Eugenix idealogy was to remove the "filth" from the DNA of the German people and make a new Aaren race.
Filth in his and his peoples minds were Gays/Bi, Jews, Blacks, Gypsies and other nomadic Europeans and other people who were not fit for the Aaren blood.

Basically Aaren blood is almost like royalty blood in a Monarchy but instead of it only bing used for the leadership "Monarchy" in his mind the people should be part of this as well.

Jews are only a small part of this massive plan. Every one suffered like any Socialist ideology. Socialism = Short Term Solutions to Long Term Problems = BIGGEST FAILURE IN THE HISTORY OF MAN KIND.

This is why people like Obama must be stooped. There is not Right or Left this is about Freedom and Slavery.

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Why does everyone always associate the Holocaust with just the Jews? More people died in those camps. Even other Germans.

I really don't see how this is a direct and relevant answer to the OP. He didn't just associate the holocaust with the Jews. While you have a valid point, it isn't directly related to his post.

To the OP:

Hitler's hatred toward the Jews stemmed from his view that they were responsible for taking money and jobs the German people needed after the rebuilding period from the first World War. The Jews were a convenient scapegoat during that time.

Before the whiners get on here and try to draw something from there other than what is actually there - yes I know other people died during the holocaust but the majority of them were Jews and again - that has nothing to do with what OP asked.

Take that crap to another thread.

Hitler picked on the Jews because of historical hang-ups had mushroomed into the International Jew conspiracy, backed up by things like the forged anti-Semitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion and all that. Hitler, like a few sad gullible morons actually believed this tripe and it fed on their distrust and paranoia. When given the opportunity Hitler had his day and the extermination camp was born. Others, such as the disabled, Gypsies, Poles and political misfits fed the gas chambers because they were opportunity groups whose loss was absolutely a part of Hitler’s sordid vision of a world free from “bad blood”.

Naturally, other dictators such as Mao and Stalin also sought to kill off their undesirable populations. Look at Stalin and his pesky Ukranians, Chechens, Kalmiks and Mao and his millions of peasants with 'bourgeois tendencies'. What a nice trio these three made.

We can even add “lesser” crimes by the number of graves, but not in human suffering, such as the Japanese and their treatment of the lesser Chinese (remember Nanking), the Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot (Tin Pot), the Turkish genocide against the Armenians and even the Americans and the native American Indians who were dehumanised cartoonised, but who died enslaved and brutalised.

These sad, sick megalomaniacs just need an excuse and any impressionable, subjugated and terrified population will watch in silence. Hitler used (and probably believed) the paranoia against the mystical International Jew to give his brand of anti-Semitic-final-solution the excuse he craved.

It is very sad that the type of un-evidenced twaddle that is waved about as fact by some pundits on these Boards (e.g. a belief in the Zionist conspiracy and all that rubbish) is exactly which got Hitler all hot and bothered and which gave his paranoia wings and which resulted in genocide.

Oh, I know that some will read this and point to many self styled “academics” and “scholars” who have posted some “evidence” that the banking system is 99% Jewish or that behind every politician is some shady Zionist etc., but that is just not backed up with solid fact. These people feed the gullible. These people feed the Hitler’s of this world. These people invent truth from nothing and then pretend it’s harmless. These people have an audience who “want to believe” and regurgitate the same old prejudices and fears from decades past.

Fight ignorance and the peddlers of ignorance.

Regards

edit - typo


[edit on 12/7/2010 by paraphi]

Originally posted by Freedomrus
Hitler was a Socialist by day and a fan of Eugenix by night.

Oh dear not this again.

Hitler was not a socialist, and to think he was shows a lack of understanding of history, and socialism.

Hitler was a fascist based on the fascism of Mussolini.

Fascism is a term used to describe authoritarian nationalist political ideologies or mass movements that are concerned with notions of cultural decline or decadence and seek to achieve a millenarian national rebirth by exalting the nation or race, and promoting cults of unity, strength and purity...
The term fascismo was coined by the Italian Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini and the Neo-Hegelian philosopher Giovanni Gentile...
Fascists typically advocate a strong military that is capable of both defensive and offensive actions. In Germany and Italy under Hitler and Mussolini, enormous amounts of funding was dedicated to the military. In some fascist regimes, the fascist movement itself has a paramilitary wing which is included in the armed forces of the country, such as the SS in Germany and the MVSN in Italy, which are devoted directly and specifically to the fascist movement....

schools-wikipedia.org...

Just because he used the term socialism in his party name it doesn't make it so. He also used the term 'nationalism', but I don't see you calling him a nationalist which he was as that is part of fascism, not socialism.

Socialism is simply the workers ownership of the means of production, Hitlers Germany was a nationalist capitalists dictatorship.

This is how history is re-written, someone makes a claim and others believe it without checking the facts first. It's convenient for the right to paint Hitler as a lefty but it simply ain't true.

Hitler was fighting against the socialist revolution in Spain. The socialists were the workers, not the government. People need to learn that socialism equals government is a fallacy. Socialism is an economic system, not a political system and government is not required. Socialism was a working class created system as a direct opposition to capitalism and fascism.

In the mid 30's the workers were starting to take their lives back, it started in Spain with lot's of people from other countries joining in the fight against against the fascists. The socialists/anarchists/communists were winning, and for two years they ran the country without government by collectivizing the work force, production went up by 20% in some areas. The PTB couldn't allow this to spread so WWII was started in the pretense of fighting fascism, when in reality they were stopping the spread of the workers revolution. Britain only declared war because they were forced to through an agreement to protect Poland (also invaded by USSR at the same time). No one cared about Hitler in Spain with his Luftwaffe, or when he invaded Czechoslovakia.

Originally posted by tamusan
reply to post by galadofwarthethird

 

Oh, I see now. You are arguing the word infinite. Well, I'm bored. The definition of infinite is the topic of the thread? You probably do understand the point I am making and just looking for an argument. I gotcha.

Sayonara!

[edit on 7-7-2010 by tamusan]

Your the one who says infinite as if it means something I just said all your words don't mean jack don't get all emotional on me, and I am not arguing the word infinite just trying to see why you would use it in that context you are implying that there is something more, I am saying no there is nothing more to it. And if your bored good because you are boring me also so we are even, why take it so personal not even the ones who's peoples died in this war take it as personal so what is it. It's all just sticking heads in the sand its irrelevant, "the only thing really learned from history is that no one really learns from history" but what is history but more opinions and distorted facts in books. So I want your opinion on the point you are making, because I do understand it regardless of one word.

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the Jews, as a group prospered ... while the rest of the Germans were suffering economic hardships...

the Nazi party was based on a workers socialist 'Labor union'...
and directed their workers hate & exasperation on the apparently affluent Jewish shopkeepers/bankers/loan or pawn shops, hence KrystalNacht

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Hmm I see now a little better why the jews have been chosen. And dude trust me anytime anybody or a so called god says you and your peoples have been chosen the first question should be is "chosen for what". I see this a little clearer why the populace would be so stuck on this, so let me give you my two cents. There is much going on so ill give a little different perspective.

Then and only then will it click in your brain that they have socially engineered the west as part of their evil 1000 years old plan. Ever wonder why its bad to be white and good to be black ? ever wondered why the US always fights wars that serve the Israel state ?

Yes why not I have wondered this a little, but came to a different conclusion, and you have it backwards Israel is a puppet the jews are another tool of this state controlled by the spiritual successor of the roman empire imperial american interests is its name now. The Zionists have not engineered anything other then there work which they have been conditioned to get done and since they are Semites it has to do with the money's. They have not engineered anything other then the same as any other states or peoples they reacted to the options given. The elites/pharisees going for the money and the rest/god fearing peoples paying for those endeavors, the have and the have not's. they were always a pharisee system that got conquered by Rome and work for rome. The prototype state of creating sheep's for the use and convenience of the ruling class, is Israel, any people that follow blindly the rhetoric of a priest class is very useful indeed, not even the romans believed that the Caesar's were gods in fact they believed in gods the way Italian catholics believe in Christianity, its useful to do what you want and except forgiveness later then go on with your day. The race thing of being black and white is your fear most likely implanted be a meme, and its just that a fear or irrational thinking, you should know the only color that matters is green in this society and all other societies before this, only there monetary slang wasn't green. Chill out a little.

I am white and I am proud to be and so should you be if you are white. If you are in on this plan to bring in a one world government controlled out of Jerusalem then you are bad and eventually every now and then someone like Hitler comes along and discovers your plan and sets you back another 100 years.

I am white, basing this on the last time I checked, don't know about the pride thing have not thought about it much. I don't agree anyone should try a one world government that can't even hold together a state and peoples, so I don't agree with a one world government because of that. But I see why the rich and bankster's try to implement one, less paperwork and accountability for them, maximizing profits, money has no nation even though it thrives and relies on nations. This way a higher rich class can become a untouchable class and capitalism, socialism, Communism and any other kind of ism can become fascism and eventually an aristocracy of extreme control better known as "many tyrants". Absolute control to the elites, free from restrains and no longer required to pay lip service to the middle and lower classes and the have not's. But I agree that eventually some one comes along and sets plans back 100 years, as for Hitler he is not the epitome of evil even though he was evil. Believe you me there are much worser things then the evil's that Hitler caused and were caused throw him, Julius Caesar use to say "that his conquests in Gaul alone left a million dead and a million enslaved", and that "if you kill one man they call you a murderer, you kill millions they call you a conqueror" but he also said "one should not break the law unless one could overthrow the law" all things that have been said before him and after him. But Caesar was no mad despot and those that condemn him forget that before him there were more crueler tyrants like Sula, and just because there is a senate does not mean they are beneficial to anybody but those in the senate, they were tyrants in league with each other, in many ways the elites of the day. Caesar was just really good at his job and at the end of the day he put rome first in his own way, and the side effect of this is that Rome prospered and lived on for good and bad. But enough of this, point being if you think that Hitler was the worst or the best that can be in this world, think again in this age and day with these technologies things can get much more painful, should a despot or despots come in to power, or as some say like Hitlers propaganda ministers, what the peoples opinion of power is....funny no....what the mind is capable of, how this world works, an idea can make or break an entire civilization or even a world with enough nukes and better weapons.

You watch the Pro-Israel crowd deflect the issue and paint me as a Neo Nazi racist but I am against the New World Order and its progenitors and its clear to me that through their own words and writings they wish to destroy the west and the White Race to achieve this One World Government.

Everybody has opinions its rare that one knows if there opinions are actually there own or implanted by others for a certain goal, that goes for all from neo Nazis to republicans/democrats to Zionists to anybody ain't none of us special in the end. Life is full of surprises for all of us. Do less reading more thinking and reflecting it helps clear the air of the fog of opinions, better yet just do and be. If this is true then if they succeed in destroying the west it will achieve nothing they are to dependent on the west, horse and carriage cant have one without the other. As for destroying the white race... its not withing there power. In fact I'm not even sure what white means its just another tribe of peoples to me, other then skin pigmentation it has very little meaning to me, and I could say the same to any other tribes or races of peoples.

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Thanks for your post, I think I can sympathize your position and its nice to see a fresh approach to this One World Order thing and were Israel fits into it.

How ever I must point out, I have thoughts that are purely my own and are unique to anything I have read on here in regards to being a racist.

My children often call me a racist ( I have tried to teach them critical thinking ) and when I state how I love my skin colour and the "GOOD" deeds of my race and ancestry over a millenia they soon realize that I am not putting down or belittling other races so much as elevating the achievements of our own.

There is a disconnect between being a proud white human and what society is teaching our youth in the western nations right now and the blame has to be leveled at those in control of socially engineering the youth ----> the media....if you are white then you should be ashamed of your race.

In America look who owns it, then look at the Pro-Israel status of the USA and then you can see that "Through Deception they do War". Only then will you see that it is a complete Political/Religious/Ethnicity/Military control grid that is why there is War in the middle east.

Many still believe that 6 million Jews died in the camps. That's about 1/3 of the entire Jewish population on Earth at the time. Not exactly a realistic figure, is it?

It doesn't make it any less of an atrocity for historians to revise the figure to 1 or 2 million, or to 100,00, or whatever number can be accounted for with evidence.

This is one of the problems I have with the accepted account of the Holocaust.

I understand we are all supposed to hate Hitler with a fervent passion because we never want something like wwII or the Holocaust to happen AGAIN

but

To say that HITLER was LAZY and envied the jews because they weren't and had money?

Dude...Hitler accomplished so freakin' much. And not just mass murder by SS proxy. He could in no way have ever been lazy and did what he did, or achieved what he did acheive, even though a lot of what he did, was really wrong.

WWI left Germany messed up. Really messed up.

And the Jewish bankers had a big hand in deciding the terms of the end of that war.

Germany fell to her knees with massive inflation, hunger - I mean, Germany was practically mortally wounded!

And the Germans HATED the banks for what they percieved they'd done to them. It's sorta like the bail out but it wasn't as convuluted as that and was more painful, and people actually GOT what had happened.

Ok, so then Hitler rose to power. AND UNDER HITLER, Germany went from dying rose to a rose that was exploding with blooms and wanting to grow all over the European trellis. He TOOK Germany to greatness! He encouraged the sciences a lot.

He was catholic, but he wasn't all that religious. I don't think he gave a flip about who killed Jesus. (IMO the entire lot tried to kill him, but they couldn't keep him dead anyway so who cares.)

Then the wars started. Hitler at first was just adding all the pieces of the Germanic lands together. England and other countries that didn't want to be put in Hitler's new world order said WOAH

Then it was percieved by the German people that the Jewish bankers - the rich elite who happened to be Jewish - were going behind Hitler's back to England and trying to plot to get America to enter the war. See, America LIKED Hitler for a long of his time in power, and we weren't too keen to get into the war.

And that's when things got crazy. SCIENCE was something Hitler put a lot of faith in, and SCIENCE was going full steam ahead with genetics. Remember, that crap was new.

Sorta like how Biotech engineering is new, with GMO crops, and we are like GO GO GO it will save the world!

and back then, they thought if they could engineer ideal humans it would help the world.

And you just had all this really, really evil poured into the world at once, and it was more than anyone could handle, and Hitler was at the eye of the storm.

The Jews and THE RUSSIANS ended up being the shore where the storm surge hits.

So many, many Russians died in those concentration camps. Russia sacrificed so many to stop Hitler.

I don't hate Jews, and I don't hate Hitler. I think the German people are amazing.

If Hitler had been a good man, he'd have reigned that craziness in instead of trying to use it. He was a builder, a strong leader, a writer, an artist.

He wasn't lazy. He just let the bad feelings of vengence in him and his country get out of control.

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Good morning ats, I heard a long time ago that one of Hiltler expeditions
to Nepal was rewarded by certin knowledge of a race of aryan beings that had came before to the earth and lived in Nepal in the hymalyalian mountains and also in Hawaii.
It could be possible that he wanted to be the one to breed the genetics back to a True IBL Aryans [true Inbred line] that he tought would have the abilites he desired.
Then again he might of picked up a Talmud and said i aint having this #!!! THE TALMUD EXPOSED!
People i would of said no way its true till i seen this video of this nice hebrew boy smiling at the tought of killing a women on front of her children
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the video isreal does not want you to see is the u tube title.
If you have a sick stomach, DONT WATCH!!!!


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Originally posted by gopher mines
I've heard many stories on why the Holocaust happened, and they all say something like this:

"Hitler blamed the Jews (for some terrible thing)"

Yet I haven't read anything in detail as to why he blamed the Jews. I mean, they _MUST_ have done something for Germany to be OK with what was happening to the Jews at the time. No amount of propaganda is going to make me want to kill off an entire group of people, or even be a part of killing off an entire group of people,, So my question is this: What did the Jews do for Hitler to seem justified in wiping them out? And don't tell me that he was a crazy mad-man.

[edit on 22-6-2010 by gopher mines]

I read and study ALL sides of every issue I look into. Find audio book by Hitler; "Mein Kampf." I believe it simply means "My struggle." In two words; Social Democracy. Look into that, Hitler lays it all out, and explains he sees what Jews do, and bankers, as being the CANCER that causes suffering, and ruins societies. It is not as hatefully written as one would think. People probably say worse today, as Black Panthers, Jewish Supremacy types (say and do worse), Brown Power, White Power, etc. EVERY race and culture has their hate groups. HOWEVER, a parallel is immigration now, here in the U.S.; blaming illegal aliens for much of the deficit plight. Sort of similar spark in that Hitler saw Jewish as causing the trouble and making others suffer. I DO NOT AGREE, just presenting the "Gist" as a paraphrase.

When Hitler was a small boy, his mother whom he loved very much died of breast cancer while she was under the care of a "Jewish" doctor, and after she suffered a very long brutle treatment therapy process. While Hilter served in WW I, Hitler was injured by poisonous gas. Hitler's healing therapy involved some of the same or very similar intrusive healing methods that his mother had also been treated with ( which brought back memories of his mother's illness and her very long suffering ). Maybe this somehow associates in the mind Hitler's ( gas ) mouthing attacks against jews.

Why do Jews hate Palestinians with same intensity ?
Why do Palestinians hate Jews with same intensity ?

Do you think they would´t do to each other the same (as in WWII) if some "perfect" oportunity comes ?

Hate is something that accumulate for long time. Nobody can force you to hate Danish people suddenly.

Maybe answers needs to be find long before Hitler. Don´t know. It´s not so simple.

The Globalist Conspiracy are white supremacists. The Illuminati infiltrated the Jews via the Khazar's while the Jews were in Russia/Georgia. So, there became to be a large number of Arian Ashkenazi Jews vs. Ethnic Sephardic Jew.

Sephardic Jews have been targets of ethnic cleansing throughout the Muslim Conquests and Crusades even before the holocaust.

Fascist dictatorships get power by playing classes off against each other. In the case of Hitler, he used the Illuminati written "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion" to incite anger of the poor class against the middle class Sephardic Jews and Zionist Conspiracy. However, the Arian Ashkenazi Jews were better able to evade the gas chambers because of their blue eyes and blonde hair.

It is by design that the Globalist conspiracy associates itself with Zionism. But you must realize the great conspiracy is anti-Zionist at its very heart. Zion is the enemy of The New World Order. This is why Israel, Jerusalem, and even the temple mount is divided by design.

Most Jews and Palestinians do not inherently hate each other. They actually had peacefully co-existed together for centuries. The issue is that the Illuminati "agent provocateurs" have infiltrated both the Jewish and Palestinian leadership and are manipulating both sides to hate each other.

When Israel was made a state, the Muslim leadership ordered the Palestinians to flee Israel. But Israel was pleading with the Palestinians to stay. The Old Testament requires that Jews live equitably, respectfully and peaceably with the "strangers" within their borders. What the Palestinians realized, is that the Muslims who ordered that they flee Israel, would not accept them into their countries, and they ended up in permanent concentration camps known as the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights.



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I would take a close look at the Jesuit Order.

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Hitler was really after INTL Banker Elite 13 gewish Families, most powerful The Rothchilds. Rothchilds brought WW1 and Germany to ruin cause all wars since Napolean, Revolutionary war, Civil war are about control/printing of World's paper money. Nations had to borrow from gewish banking families at high interest. The Amer-Anglo gwish bankers helped Hitler gain power but Hitler printed his own money(like Lincoln-Kennedy)throwing world bankers out of bus. in Germany so like Saddom and Czar Nicolas(Russia)they could not control him and they aligned the world against him creating WW2, and killing Hitler and millions. When Hitler knew he'd lost he took his anger out on little Jews cause the Rothchilds wanted to create a gewish state that Hitler tried to prevent-which they forced Truman to create!

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Hitler was really after INTL Banker Elite 13 Jew Families The Rothchilds. Rothchilds brought WW1 and Germany to ruin cause all wars since Napolean, Revolutionary war, Civil war are about control/printing of World's paper money. Nations had to borrow from Jewish banking families at high interest. The Amer-Anglo Jeew bankers helped Hitler gain power but Hitler printed his own money(like Lincoln-Kennedy)throwing world bankers out of bus. in Germany so like Saddom and Czar Nicolas(Russia)they could not control him and they aligned the world against him creating WW2, and killing Hitler and millions. When Hitler knew he'd lost he took his anger out on little Jews cause the Rothchilds wanted to create a Jewish state that Hitler tried to prevent-which they forced Truman to create!