President Obama is completely worthless as a president

Why can't we just get the "best minds" in the world together, to come up with a solution? Right now, it doesn't matter about whose fault it is, just fix it! Why is this not happening? I don't get it! I just can't take the "doom and gloom" stuff anymore! I am getting so sad and discouraged!

I agree that Obama is worthless ... BUT;

Our current political corruption would render any President powerless, as Congress and the Senate are bought and paid for.

I would prefer him use whatever leverage he can to push and embarrass the corporatists but he's kind of boxed in; The Right Wing in this country doesn't care what happens -- as long as the Democrats lose. So they are hoping things can go as bad as possible and then they filibuster everything. Bringing heat on Obama is fine -- but let's not let the people off the hook who would do worse.

It's pretty offensive saying that Progressives and Liberals "worship Obama" -- that's a straw man completely created from the Right and people like Rush Limbaugh and his nonsense of "the one." Liberals and Progressives were merely enthusiastic to get rid of king George. It's a dead-giveaway to me of someone who is merely playing Partisan Gotcha when this old saw comes out.

The problem here isn't Socialism -- it's that the Corporatists are defining anything they don't like as Socialism and frankly, many of you folks on the right are two dumb to know what would actually happen if Obama were a Socialist.

I've heard plenty of criticism of Obama from the most Liberal of websites so quit pushing the myth that the majority on the Left is a "party do or die" supporter. This country has never gone crazy towards Communism, and the left has always shown restraint towards its own fringe elements -- in fact, too much restraint.

Fringe groups on the right get more representations than masses of people against wars and corporate destruction.

As far as I'm concerned -- Obama is far to the right of Richard Nixon, who other than being a paranoid warmonger, would be a welcome relief to what passes for a Democrat these days.

>> Some of you need to grow up and stop trying to anger people who AGREE with you on the general complaint: Obama is Useless -- I wholeheartedly agree. You've got to disconnect that with the; "And this means we are right about all our low taxes and ending Socialism meme" -- the Gulf problem was deregulation and Bush's corrupt and incompetent inspectors and BP has not accidentally caused this problem -- it's how they work all over the world when regulators are not breathing down their necks. So, since that was already the situation when Obama took office,.. his major flaw was not prosecuting Bush and throwing out his appointments.

There isn't any magic wand that any President could wave at the moment to get BP to go back and time and drill the relief wells that should have been in place -- that's the ONLY thing current technology can really do to shut off this oil gusher.

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That's not at all what I said...I said this post was racist disinfo because there is no truth here just hate...Their making stuff up for no good reason.

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god i laugh at people that post crap like why isnt the president doing anything? or this guy is useless or he is not keeping his promises.


what planet are you on? seriously? If you people didnt wake up after bush got elected 2 terms. 2 terms, you re elected that moron 2 times, twice. more than once.........????????????


and you come in here crying that Obama is not doing what he said he would.

HERE IS A NEWS FLASH

THE POTUS IS NOT A REAL LEADER....... THATS RIGHT HE IS A PUPPET AN ICON TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE REAL POWER PLAYERS.

you people are like gold fish with 3 second memories. how many times do these morons need to lie and betray you before you wake up and realize you are getting played and played well.

you elect someone based on the promises they make and say they will keep when in power. and yet when they get to power NONE of them keep to their word. YET you keep electing them year after year. you either love being wrong or so blind you cant see past your nose.

the only way to stop them is stop electing them in. just stop voting. everybody needs to stop participating in this insanity. just STOP. stop crying about it stop yelling about it just stop and say were not going to play this stupid game anymore.


you cant fix the problem with what caused it in the first place.

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Originally posted by nivekronnoco
reply to post by Gakus

 

That's not at all what I said...I said this post was racist disinfo because there is no truth here just hate...Their making stuff up for no good reason.

It is people with this mentality, this lack of understanding that find, or make up "racism" every time a black person is criticized. It is people like this that look for "racism" in every corner of the world, and instead of realizing that all people are created equal, would rather drive a divide between us all...even to the extent of the "since he is black, he is untouchable" attitude. They refuse to look at the facts and instead, cry out the dreaded R-word in hopes that intelligent people will run scared of being labeled with the scarlet "R". It is amazing how weak the human mind can be in some people.

Originally posted by warequalsmurder
Bush was the card that was used to sucker in the NASCAR daddies of the USA.

Obama is just the latest ploy to trick the masses of the USA into temporary compliance using the race card.

The next ploy will probably be to bring in a lady and then use the sex card as a temporary compliance measure.

The result will be the same.... No improvements for the people of the USA and the people of the world for that matter.

Sad.


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I consider that a strong possibility -- but I'm not totally convinced.

The BIG PROBLEM, I see; is how so many are not trying to get consensus; "Government is non-functional" and instead try and rub noses in the failure. Democrats did NOT vote for Obama to cover up for corporations and did NOT vote for him to let Bush off the hook -- I don't know anyone who isn't angry about that.

Stop the fight against "illegals." Stop the nonsense about "he was born in Kenya." Stop the nonsense about "Socialism" -- the problem is 100% that Corporations can lobby and they run the show.

Arguing about these side shows, is another "stall" -- that I totally agree with. And then you get into a situation where anyone who just wants to stay sane, gives up caring because it's nothing but angry loudmouths, and the angry loud mouths talk past one another.

>> We might also say; the Tea Baggers have some good points in regards to BAIL OUTS. But what happened? The Media put silly shills at the lead and you've got Sarah Palin making $500,000 for a speaking engagement and the media covers a few people who shell out money to watch her nonsense -- while a LARGER crowd of Tea Bag movement protestors is outside angry as hell that Sarah Palin has anything to do with it.


That's what happens in America; every movement is co-opted and marginalized by some personality. If you stage a protest and have a march, if it gets covered, the media will put the guy in the Pink ballerina costume on TV. Regardless of the veracity of the original movement -- only the fools are elevated.

Maybe we just need a RANT filter on this blog -- I don't know how to fix this problem myself. It only takes a few people to accuse the intentions of one side, and then the discussion is about scoring points and not making them.

Originally posted by aravoth
reply to post by piddles

 

Thats Awsome!

1. Health care : Getting the government involved in transmitting my medical records and becoming a third party in a doctor patient relationship is an outstanding achievment! Who wouldn't want a politician knowing about problems with your fleshy bits.

2. Communications : The president has a blog. Wow, this is earth shattering. Obama now joins the entire world in making his very own website. Groundbreaking, yippee....

3. Transportation : Sweet! Temporary jobs on borrowed money! NOW WE'RE TALKIN'!

4. Education : a $2,500 government tax credit to offset the cost of rising tuition caused by relentless money creation rsulted from the US Government's student loan program. Good for people who are not smart enough to see the irony.

5. Cars : Nationalize the auto industry in order to prevent it from going bankrupt. Then it goes bankrupt, and has a 2 billion dollar bonus to develop a special battery. They can't even make sideview mirrors that don't fall apart, yet they are going to invent a "super-battery". K...

6. Pakistan : Bails out a foreign economy with money he got on loan. Looks like it's working out real well!

7. Cities : 2 billion for grants that fund "anti-gang" and "anti-gun" task forces. In other news, 8 dead among 52 shot across city over weekend Chicago..... who would've thought....

8. Engaging the Muslim World : You got that right! Sending 30k troops to Afgahnistan, bombing Pakistan, not leaving Iraq, every bit as engaging as President Bush was I'd say, bravo for the leader of hope and change....

9. Forests : Ah yes, I being from a state that relied heavily on the timber industry to fund it's schools and pay for it's social programs I can only stare with amazement at this. He single handedly managed to wreck half the timber industry and bankrupt state services with the stroke of his pen. Fantastic job Mr. President. Logging companies out of business, mills shutting down, schools shutting down early, and the enviornmentalists are claiming victory. Typical day in America.

10. Tone : Yes he is so calm, especially when he's looking for an "ass to kick".

Thanks for showing me these, I haven't laughed like that in a long time.





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1. It is pretty awesome! Now you can pretend politicians are going to act on your medical records! You could even make one of these attention whore obama bashing threads where you pretend your civil liberties are being taken away! Meanwhile, I look forward to getting some kind of help with surgeries and medication both myself and my hard working family cannot afford. I look forward to this system possibly working and the gov't eventually giving it more financial priority than the military/military operations so the tax payers don't have to pay more than they do now.

2. not really legislative hence "a few things"

3. spend money to make money, I thought that's what successful businesses do.

4. You're not considering people who get awarded this money and go to private colleges without student loans. I've seen countless commercials for franchised private colleges like the Art Institute. The most important thing stressed to me in high school was to work hard to NOT get student loans. The US student loan program is faulty but I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to make it better? I can't help but to feel like you would ignore my posting of a video where obama has spoke of legislation to forgive student loans after 30 years (which is INCREDIBLE considering how horribly harassed people are by these loan companies)

5. this one is more speculation than anything but it was made in pretty early in the campaign. also using "they" then describing a specific problem with no source is pretty...not convincing.

6. I don't like his involvement in other countries, especially when we have so many problems of our own, but that's only political. Considering his campaign also had a humanitarian angle, this was to be expected.

7. If you were president, everything you do would run according to plan all the time, right? Things you didn't consider would never happen because there are no surprises, exceptions, or unforeseen consequences in your world right? Also, funding anti-gang task forces seems to also mean he's able to predict what people will do all the time (because minority report is real), why didn't he see it coming? I bet if you were president you'd be down in the streets taking out the gangs, right? This just seems like another petty "OBAMA ISN'T DOING HIS JOB BECAUSE OF THIS THING THAT IS OUT OF HIS CONTROL" claim.

8. Oh, I wasn't aware that isn't any kind of muslim/non-muslim tension in america. Everything was super fine and dandy after 9/11, hell all the christians and muslims had a big "using religion to push an agenda" party. Again I don't support us interfering with with other countries but I feel strengthening ties with civilians in the areas of conflict COULD help lead to ending these BS wars. Obama never lied about sending more troops to Afghanistan, it was in his campaign, so I'm not surprised or outraged, I just want it to end.

9. this is pretty subjective. I support anything against deforestation because of how efficient other materials would be at creating the same products. I understand the importance of wood, good craftsmanship, and how dependent people are on it but I feel it should be made to become obsolete.

Originally posted by minute2midnight
The cold reality is, the United States of America has been without a President since January 20, 2009. We are a nation without a leader.

Make that November 22, 1963.

The other shoe is now falling. (or is it a boot I feel on my throat).

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There are no facts here...No help was refused....that's a lie.Why lie?
There is no Real reason....The previous 2 terms were clearly an almost unbroken descent...Has President Obama achieved everything he promised? No...cheifly because the opposition party as refused to do their jobs....Even going so far as to refute their own positions..why?

I,as it happens,am white.I have always belived that the stories of racism were over blown and exagerated....I was wrong.All those wack job tea baggers,those taxes are going up..(They Have Not..)those their gonna take our guns...Those..he's a socialist folks...Who clearly do not understand what socialism is...
The one common thing they share...they are ,in the main,white.
Perhaps I'm wrong...but one or two black people rounded up at any rally of 100's....the ratios are wrong...
Law of averages alone would demand that 17-25% of Each crowd should be none white...this is an incontrvertible mathematic fact...There has not been a single event or rally that this is so...thus,some outside force is affecting the averages...
Their hate defines them.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by nikiano

 

I WILL HAVE TO DISAGREE!

I hear that he can golf and party too.

he also plays a lot of hoops. or maybe it's hoop. shooting baskets. keeps his mind clear in between golf and partying.

i disagree
i tinhk hes pretty entertaining.

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Thank you, you've said almost everything I thought when I saw this thread.

Another thought I had upon reading this: Why is it ATS will scream all day about our leaders being puppets for the NWO and then in the next breathe whine about the puppets. Guys, I think you might be whining about the wrong people here.

Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst


I consider that a strong possibility -- but I'm not totally convinced.

The BIG PROBLEM, I see; is how so many are not trying to get consensus; "Government is non-functional" and instead try and rub noses in the failure. Democrats did NOT vote for Obama to cover up for corporations and did NOT vote for him to let Bush off the hook -- I don't know anyone who isn't angry about that.

Huh?

The above statement only proves my assertion that these people are just bobbleheads.

So actually you do indeed appear to be convinced, if not just a little confused about your agreement.

- BUSH
...would have erroneously declared the oil had weapons of mass destruction and spent trillions to wage war with it. Cheney would shoot the spill in the face and say that there is a connection between it and Saddam Hussein.

- MCCAIN
...would personally fly over to the Gulf to survey the damage. As he stood on the beach grimacing in anger, Joe Lieberman would show up to whisper to him that he actually flew to Egypt.

- PALIN
...would drill for more oil right beside the gaping oil-geyser the build a useless underwater bridge between the two. Not before she consults the international community via flash-light and Morse code from her back porch.

Let's face it folks, Obama is just about the same as any other president.
Give or take. It's not like he's somehow beat them all in the useless category.

The best we can do any given election barring running ourselves (and then realizing that you can't really change jack) is vote them in and pray it doesn't hurt us as bad as the last guy.

Telling ourselves anything different is simply revealing the deeply embedded partisan division in the psyche of most fooled Americans, played up by both sides of the political isle to keep themselves in power.

Just sayin'.

- Lee

the governemnt has a blank check from the FED, and this could certianally create jobs so why the hell don't we get money printed, get some supplies manufactured, get some companies to hire nation wide for PEOPLE who WANT to get this cleaned up and just get it done..., why because we have politics, Why because of Buereacratic RED TAPE...

I mean we have the coast guard, on guard instead of helping with releive efforts, if it was a war on oil, 40,000 troops would be stationed )depolyed( in the gulf with 15000 more reserve soliders waiting to go...

how back ass wards is this?

Ok reading the last few post i figure i should remind people that if we are as upset as we claim to be...we are not powerless, Lame as it may be we can still vote and strike the ballot...leave a diagonal line through each candidate. Signifiying that we are doing our deomcratic part by voting, and that we believe that none of the presented candidates are qualified to run the country. Me and a bunch of my freinds did that last election, if enough people did that maybe then they would finally get the message??? ...maybe not but it worth a shot.

Originally posted by nivekronnoco
It's not really interesting because it's a lie...no aid was turned down....this is racist disinfo.

Racist disinfo?? What planet are you from?? Or maybe I should say: what White House office are you from?

Where the hell do you see anything racist about my post? If you're going to debate me, at least have the brains to give a decent rebuttal that attacks my points, instead of just using the "racist" card.

To be sure, though, I looked up my facts just to make sure I was right, and it turns out, my count was low. At last count, there were 25 countries that offered help, not 15. (Updated June 21st.)

Link to state department info:

www.state.gov...


Oh, wait....are you going to call the state department racist, too?

In alphabetical order, the names of the countries that offered help are: Belgium, Canada, China, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kenya, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Republic of Korea, Spain, Sweden, Tunisia, Quatar, UAE, United Kingdom, and Vietnam.

By my count, that is 25 counties, and those names are taken DIRECTLY FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT LIST AND WEBSITE.

Here's another article:

calamities.gaeatimes.com...

Cleanup aid from overseas comes with a price tag


WASHINGTON — At least 22 nations — including Britain, where BP is based — have offered oil-collecting skimmers, boom, technical experts and more to help the U.S. cope with its worst-ever environmental disaster. But their generosity comes with a price tag.

The State Department confirmed that nearly every offer of equipment or expertise from a foreign government since the April 20 oil rig explosion would require the U.S. to reimburse that country.

The offers reveal a hard truth about the United States’ international friendships: With the U.S. widely regarded as the world’s wealthiest nation, there is a double standard regarding foreign aid after a crisis, especially with offers from relatively poor countries.

U.S. disaster aid is almost always free of charge; other nations expect the U.S. to pay for help.

“These offers are not typically offers of aid,” said Lt. Erik Halvorson, a Coast Guard spokesman. “Normally, they are offers to sell resources to BP or the U.S. government.”

Only Mexico, with wide swaths of poverty among its population, offered the U.S. anything for free. It said it would give the U.S. government some containment boom. BP separately purchased 13,780 feet of boom and two skimmers from Mexico in early May, according to the State Department.

“We’re not disappointed,” State Department spokesman Mark Toner said Friday. “We’re quite pleased with the international offers of assistance. What we’re concerned with right now is getting these types of assistance as they become available, as they are useful to our cleanup operations, getting them into action so they can clean up the Gulf.”

The offers include:

—Britain, America’s closest ally and headquarters to London-based BP, said it would sell chemical dispersants and containment boom for use cleaning up the spill. London’s mayor, Boris Johnson, has previously complained about what he called “buck-passing and name-calling” in the U.S. against BP.

—Russia, which received $70.5 million in U.S. aid last year and $78 million in 2008, said it could send boom, oil containers and ships if the U.S. paid for them.

—China offered containment boom for a price. When a major earthquake struck in northwest China in April, the U.S. quickly gave $100,000 for relief supplies, and after another major earthquake in southwestern China in 2008, the U.S. donated $500,000 through the U.S. embassy in Beijing to the Red Cross to buy and deliver emergency supplies there. Congressional researchers estimate the U.S. spends roughly $30 million on foreign aid to China each year, including educational exchanges and health programs.

—Israel, which receives roughly $3 billion in U.S. military aid and other assistance, also said it would send containment boom, if the U.S. paid for it.

—France offered to send chemical dispersants and equipment to clean oil off birds but only for a price.

—Kenya, which received more than $24 million in U.S. aid last year and $11 million in 2008 for humanitarian aid, offered to send fire boom but only if the Obama administration paid.

—Vietnam offered a ship with oil-collecting sweep arms if the U.S. paid for it. The U.S. spent $102 million in all types of aid to Vietnam in 2008. When Typhoon Ketsana hit that country last fall, affecting 3 million people, the U.S. spent $100,000 on relief operations.

—Romania made a “general offer of support” but asked the U.S. government for payment. After heavy rains sent in July 2008 sent four major rivers over their banks and killed five people, the U.S. gave $50,000 for emergency supplies.

—Croatia offered to send technical experts and plans, for a price. The U.S. gave Croatia $50,000 to buy local firefighting equipment in 2007 when more than 800 wildfires broke out during an unusually hot and dry summer.

And another article:
www.eagleworldnews.com...

HOUSTON - In Louisiana and other states on the Gulf of Mexico there is frustration over what many residents see as a slow response by the U.S. government to protecting coastal areas. Some critics of the Obama administration cite offers by the Netherlands in April to supply sophisticated skimmers and dredging devices, and the administration’s failure to accept the offer. The issue is as murky as the oil slick now threatening regional beaches.
A Houston-based company is now cleaning oil off surface water in the Gulf of Mexico using sweeping arms that attach to a boat and help gather large amounts of oil. These sophisticated devices were provided by a Dutch company with years of experience in such operations, but instead of using the Dutch ships and crews immediately, when The Netherlands offered help in April, the operation was delayed until U.S. crews could be trained.
The Obama administration declined the Dutch offer partly because of the Jones Act, which restricts foreign ships from certain activities in U.S. waters. During the Hurricane Katrina crisis five years ago, the Bush administration waived the Jones Act in order to facilitate some foreign assistance, but such a waiver was not given in this case.
The Dutch also offered assistance with building sand berms (barriers) along the coast of Louisiana to protect sensitive marshlands, but that offer was also rejected, even though Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal had been requesting such protective barriers.
A spokesman for the Dutch embassy in Washington, Floris Van Hovell, tells VOA his country stands ready to help in the Gulf.

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The republic can survive Obama

"It is less likely to survive a multitude of FOOLS that made him their president"

Unknowen auther but right to the point.

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S&F OP !!!!

Could mot have said it any better , i did mention a bit of the same in another thread about never mind the blame get it fixed ..... then see what happened etc

Thanks for elaborating it better

The reason he will allow no other country in to help with the spill is because of the unions. Thats right boys and girls, THANKS UNIONS. Thanks for all you've never done for the rest of us, because of some outdated law stating that foreign ships cannot work in United States waters unless the ship is staffed with you guessed it union workers. It's called the jones act I believe. So I will say it again THANKS FOR SCREWING US AGAIN UNIONS... Don't get me wrong there is a time and a place for unions, this is not one of them, we have real work that needs to get done here were not standing in an assembly line in some plant in whatever state you want to add in, so thats why we turned down the foreign help even though assclown Obama could set aside that law like Bush did with katrina.