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Originally posted by Erasurehead
The American people have no problems with the good people of the UK. This is a media created lie.
Originally posted by mapsurfer_
My opinion UK mainstream media lends too much credibility to blogs, many of which are shotty commentaries for people speculating from every possible angle. There are a couple of journalist from Bloomberg (UK) and BBC who are being terribly irresponsible with the info they are publishing, and making thing worst for BP shareholders. The US (wall st in particular) is catching all kinds of blame for tanking stock. Fact is there were global shareholder (40% are US investors) Goldman and other major shareholders were massively selling off BP the very moment the rig exploded. Nothing stings like losing a bunch of money on an incident like this, but goes to show you that even a huge company like BP are not immune to market hits, and stocks are risky business. That Transocean company collected a $400M insurance policy for the sunk rig which was twice what it was worth, and they were cutting their dividend checks when the explosion occurred. If BP can't get a handle on their stock freefall there is a chance they will be subjected to a takeover on deflated shares alone.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by Sed Non Credo
What are talking about? I'm genuinely confused,
Do you think this isnt a serious matter? Do you know the MESS that company caused in the gulf?? Have you seen the pictures? You know some people lost their lives as the result of this spill? And all you come down and say to us here is that 'accidents happen' 'criticism to BP is criticism towards Britain'. People like you are just unbelievable, and meanwhile we have people on the rightwing complaining and crying that the president isnt saying or doing enough.
You can talk smack about America as soon as I see you cleaning some tar balls off some beaches.
No, on second thought, don't ever talk about America again.
Originally posted by downtown436
reply to post by Sed Non Credo
Well, I don't like Obama. But I must say my disdain for the UK is growing each and every minute.
1) I hope BP is driven into bankruptcy.
2) I hope all the brits that have pensions through BP are destroyed.
3) The lizard Queen can kiss my arse.
Seriously, you are complaining about Obama giving crappy Christmas gifts, while your greedy corporation has single handedly destroyed my 2 favorite vacation spots? The gulf of Mexico??
I'll tell you what.
You can talk smack about America as soon as I see you cleaning some tar balls off some beaches.
No, on second thought, don't ever talk about America again.
Originally posted by Ulala
The worst accident in the British North Sea oilfields was the fire on board the Piper Alpha platform, when 167 men died. The rig was owned & operated by Occidental, headquartered in California USA.
I'll repeat that just so you take it in. 167 men either burned to death or drowned.
The Lord Cullen's judicial report into the accident made criticism of Occidental's lax safety & maintenance regime (mm, sound familiar ?) ... but at no time did his or media criticism of Occidental degenerate into general anti American sentiment.
That's what makes the whole British Petroleum thing so odd, with the company being routinely criticised by US commentators as foreign, hostile ... even though US shareholdings in BP almost match those of their British equivalents.
Accidents happen & that's to be expected in such difficult environments, although they do everything to prevent such things. What's not acceptable is that companies such as BP, Occidental and the rest are so large, are global in their spread that they seem outside the laws of just about every country, the USA included, their CEO's show no fear because they've got nothing to be scared about, they're almost untouchable. That's not acceptable.
The Bhopal disaster or Bhopal Gas Tragedy was an industrial catastrophe that occurred on the night of December 3, 1984 at the Union Carbide India Limited (UCIL) pesticide plant in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh, India. At that time, UCIL was the Indian subsidiary of the U.S. company Union Carbide Corporation (UCC), which is now a subsidiary of Dow Chemical Company. Around midnight on the intervening night of December 2–3, 1984, there was a leak of methyl isocyanate (MIC) gas and other toxins from the plant, resulting in the exposure of over 500,000 people. Estimates vary on the death toll. The official immediate death toll was 2,259 and the government of Madhya Pradesh has confirmed a total of 3,787 deaths related to the gas release.[1] Other government agencies estimate 15,000 deaths.
As the Union Carbide boss, Anderson knew about a 1982 safety audit of the Bhopal plant, which identified 30 major hazards. Rather than fix them in Bhopal, only the company's identical plant in the US was fixed. Neglecting these hazards in Bhopal caused the deadly explosion.
Originally posted by downtown436
reply to post by Sed Non Credo
Well, I don't like Obama. But I must say my disdain for the UK is growing each and every minute.
1) I hope BP is driven into bankruptcy.
2) I hope all the brits that have pensions through BP are destroyed.
3) The lizard Queen can kiss my arse.
Seriously, you are complaining about Obama giving crappy Christmas gifts, while your greedy corporation has single handedly destroyed my 2 favorite vacation spots? The gulf of Mexico??
I'll tell you what.
You can talk smack about America as soon as I see you cleaning some tar balls off some beaches.
No, on second thought, don't ever talk about America again.
Originally posted by Sed Non Credo
The latest continual bashing of BP for what is undeniably an accident from a statesmen is yet another clear sign of Obama's disdain of the British.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
The fact is, whatever he does he will not win with everybody. No I do not think he is targeting britain, BP chose to associate themselves with Britain, BP decided to ignore safety regulations. Stop trying to find scapegoats.
Originally posted by stumason
Thing is, what about the two US companies who were the ones in actual operatinal control of the rig, namely Transocean and Halliburton?
Rig survivors: BP ordered shortcut on day of blast
(CNN) -- The morning the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, a BP executive and a Transocean official argued over how to proceed with the drilling, rig survivors told CNN's Anderson Cooper in an exclusive interview.
The survivors' account paints perhaps the most detailed picture yet of what happened on the deepwater rig -- and the possible causes of the April 20 explosion.
The BP official wanted workers to replace heavy mud, used to keep the well's pressure down, with lighter seawater to help speed a process that was costing an estimated $750,000 a day and was already running five weeks late, rig survivors told CNN.
BP won the argument, said Doug Brown, the rig's chief mechanic. "He basically said, 'Well, this is how it's gonna be.' "