The Law of One - What is Right and What is Wrong?

reply to post by ET_MAN

Be considerate, kind, giving, sharing, caring, loving and so on

What I strive to live by my friend

reply to post by UberL33t


Why can't we just be what we "are" without the judgement associated with whatever we are? Ya sure i am good, or i am bad, but that is you saying that you "know" the difference between the 2. You are taking the stance of being above or better then whatever the situation entails to be able to judge weather or not it is good or bad. That is a false belief and i have to believe that will contradict other personal beliefs people have about equality and all of that.

reply to post by onequestion

Why can't we just be what we "are"

By all means...be...what my opinion is of how you choose to be...is not relevant in the grand scheme. I'm out for number one, my way of being is what I am focused upon. I choose the aforementioned. What another man chooses is out of my control for the most part. I can only radiate me...if I can convince someone to mirror my actions then great, if not, it's not me who will judge them in the end.

[edit on 6/7/2010 by UberL33t]

reply to post by onequestion

Hi Onequestion,

Why can't we just be what we "are"

You can and you are – You are choosing your own path for the 'TIME' being.

without the judgement associated with whatever we are?

There is no judgment only an Infinite/Eternal knowledge/understanding that has always been and will always be.

Everyone-1 perfectly understands Good from Evil on the other side of the curtain/veil beyond the human vehicle/body/flesh.

For the temporal 'TIME' being on Earth one-1 is merely a tiny fraction of one-1's infinite higher self in awareness where there is no tiny. One-1 struggles to understand perhaps the meaning/purpose of life and cannot remember just yet or figure out/distinguish what is Good and what is Evil. All part of the temporal Earth life school/experience. At least some out there are unaware of what Good and Evil is, everyone-1 is on their own temporal path/journey for the 'TIME' being.

Ya sure i am good, or i am bad, but that is you saying that you "know" the difference between the 2.

Yes we do know, but there is no judgment made upon one-1 whatsoever, it's the one-1 who makes judgment upon themselves through their own actions. Everyone-1 is on their own path/journey working their way through life trying to figure it all out where there is no all. It's ultimately the 'TIME' being who must come to that realization of what Good and Evil is - all on their own where there is no all but infinite one-1 your.

I AM what I AM.

You are taking the stance of being above or better then whatever the situation entails to be able to judge weather or not it is good or bad.

Nobody is taking a stance or claiming to be better or more special than another, we only recognize that the true path back to GOOD places comes through LOVE. There is an infinite one-1 law of consequence to action/attraction and one-1 ultimately reaps what they sow according to the Infinite one-1 law of the Harvest.

What you put out and do unto others you ultimately receive back on karmic levels in one form/way or another - whether in this lifetime or the next.

Choose wisely but then again that is YOUR own choice and you are also free to choose what the word wisely, Good , Evil, Right and Wrong means to you. You can define them however you want or simply believe that they do not exist and that 'All is perfect' 'All is love' 'All is equal.'

One-1 can choose to be careless and hurt, use, abuse and murder other people and believe that everything is fine and dandy meant to be but only when they leave the vehicle/body/flesh do they really SEE.

That is a false belief and i have to believe that will contradict other personal beliefs people have about equality and all of that.

Equality – Equal opportunity is only found from the infinite/eternal perspective. On Earth, there is no such thing as equality, just look around and don't kid yourself. Take a good look at the 40,000+ children that die of starvation every single day.

Does equality truly exist on Earth?

The World Hunger Problems, Facts, Figures & Statistics!

Every year 15 million children die of hunger. (Roughly 40,000+ per day)

The Indian subcontinent has nearly half the world's hungry people. Africa and the rest of Asia together have approximately 40%, and the remaining hungry people are found in Latin America and other parts of the world. Hunger in Global Economy!

Nearly one in four people, 1.3 billion - a majority of humanity - live on less than $1 per day, while the world's 358 billionaires have assets exceeding the combined annual incomes of countries with 45 percent of the world's people. UNICEF

3 billion people in the world today struggle to survive on US$2/day.

In 1997 alone, the lives of at least 300,000 young children were saved by vitamin A supplementation programs in developing countries.

To satisfy the world's sanitation and food requirements would cost only US$13 billion- what the people of the United States and the European Union spend on perfume each year.

It is estimated that some 800 million people in the world suffer from hunger and malnutrition, about 100 times as many as those who actually die from it each year.

For the price of one missile, a school full of hungry children could eat lunch every day for 5 years.

The World Health Organization estimates that one-third of the world is well-fed, one-third is under-fed one-third is starving- Since you've read this at least 200 people have died of starvation.
library.thinkquest.org...

PEACE & LOVE
THERE IS ONLY
ONE-1 LOVE

[edit on 7-6-2010 by ET_MAN]

reply to post by OmegaLogos

Hi OmegaLogos,

Personal Disclosure: If the universe is balanced as to good and evil THEN when you are being good you are actually FORCING someone, somewhere to be EVIL!

The Universe is not balanced in the way one-1 perceives/believes, there are Infinite one-1 Utopian existences in the Universe that have freedom or open choices to do both Good and Evil however the occupants of such planets/existences live in peace, love and harmony one-1 with another and with nature/creation.

It doesn't mean they still don't have a choice to hurt each other only that they have reached a higher state/level of awareness/consciousness and have a great understanding between the differences of Love, Hate, Good and Evil etc and have earned their right to such existences as they chose their own path to get there.

The Universe is not exactly what man perceives/believes it to be, I've started a thread on it for anyone-1 willing to take a look and put in their two cents worth. It's about further discussing and sharing thoughts. www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have Love and Respect for everyone-1 regardless of one-1's belief and nobody is better or more special than another from the Infinite/Eternal perspective but we are all 'FAMILY'. In truth everyone-1 will eventually make it to places beyond all human understanding/comprehension where 'TIME' (Technically) does not exist.

One-1 has infinite amounts of 'TIME' to work on progression and learn from their mistakes, enduring and figuring it all out on their own through experiences that do include the good, bad and the ugly. This life is a challenge/test and you-1 have chosen to come and put yourself to the test. It was never meant/intended to be easy, the 'Family of Light' sends their regards and believes in you-1. Are you-1 going to disappoint yourself on the other side when meeting your so called 'Higher awareness self'?

Or are you-1 going to pass and even though one-1 has only 1-100 years worth of temporal memory in comparison to zillions of years on the other side well your Infinite one-1 higher self just might slap you-1 around a bit and drop you back off on planet Earth or a similar existence to get it RIGHT. After all where there is no all there are Infinite amounts of 'TIME' to get it right. Even if it takes you a Billion/Trillion/Zillion lifetimes to get it. It doesn't make a difference on the Infinite scale where there is no time or scale.

Enjoy life while you can I say and take one-1 day at a time and focus on that which is Eternal not temporal from dust it came and to dust it shall go. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.


Today is Today, Today and Today.





Best Wishes!

[edit on 7-6-2010 by ET_MAN]

reply to post by OmegaLogos


ET_MAN posted above:

The Universe is not balanced in the way one-1 perceives/believes, there are Infinite one-1 Utopian existences in the Universe that have freedom or open choices to do both Good and Evil however the occupants of such planets/existences live in peace, love and harmony one-1 with another and with nature/creation.

One of my friends and I got into a discussion about duality, he had studied the Kabbalah, and was of this erroneous notion that in a duality, there were equal sides of dark and light, positive or negative beings/souls. This is not what duality is.

The duality is the structure of the school, merely. Its the coding in the software. Ie. day/night, birth/death, health/sickness. Its the biochemicals in your body, dna coded so that when you are tired, sick, and have a headache you are very prone to being cranky if someone needs alot of help or raises their voice. The duality is the question on the exam.

Behavior, or the answer, on the exam, has absolutely nothing to do with polarities or oppsition. It is merely, how you respond when there is a choice. And on your answer/behavior, you are graded by yourself/Higher Self.

Conceivably, everyone could respond in a positive manner to the tests and choices we are given each day, and yet we would still be in the University School/Universe. And it would still be a duality.

Considering this, don't you think the mystery school boys, who are running this playing the roles of demons, some like Hidden Hand, thinking they're doing a service, and believing they are working with the Game Masters, have basically been Lied To, and considering what they have been doing to others, will be going through some very harsh karmic consequences.

I have a thread appealing to them, my brothers. sisters, and Family of Light, for their Future Selves all made it through, and they are very loved, out of great concern and inner knowledge of what it will feel like to them to discover the truth, to realize what they have mistakenly done to their precious Family, children, even soul mates, some of them (who didn't need them to add any more hardship to the hardships already in this system, thank you very much), and they will feel such shame, and horror, and turn themselves over to Draconians to be tortured. I don't want that, know one wants that. I want them, and even the Draconians, to repent, to take responsibility while "In Time" and no matter how hard, how much they've done, to go one step at a time, taking back the night in their souls, for their Family will be assisting them if they do so.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 7-6-2010 by Unity_99]

reply to post by ET_MAN


If you take the first quote and apply to the second quote you've 'quoted', you can see that this could be the case. Do not assume that karma mentioned here involves evil on the level of murder ; it could be karma assumed to spiritually advance the taker-on of that karma, which might be a negative personality element, such as impatience.

mclinking

There is that that benefits me, that which has no effect & that which harms me.

Some things are more lasting than others.

As a mature person i realize there are many things that are in our collective selfish interests. Organically speaking air, ground water are just naturally shared whether we like it or not. Additionally economic, ecological, social & political environments are shared as well.

If we start from the presumption that any integrated person wants a good life [at a minimum] and that some kind of species survival [progress?] is desirable as well as some intellectual, technological advancement is good,

I would hope that would get 70% of people on board.

I don't gush for other people, but don't wish any harm on people who are not harming me.
When caring outweighs your intellect you most often do more harm than good,
but falling prey to vile psychotic sadism, hidden behind veils of 'patriotism', religion & ideologies is arguably worse in most cases.

What are we?
What do we want?
How do we get it most efficiently & least destructively?

A note about the idea of offering oneself to 'take on' another karma.

I dont think this is really the case, if you offer yourself for the Divine purpose....its not so much taking on someone elses Karma...but being willing to be a part of the experience for them to learn from. And I dont believe the being would have much of a choice in this kind of incarnation....for you are offering yourself to a Universal purpose and will become a instrument to be used. We are not the body complex, that does not make us who we are...so its not a big deal for a body complex to be 'used'.

I cant imagine that all of the starving children in the world today are here reaping seeds of bad karma. I think it is much more likely we see souls that have offered themselves back to help teach the rest of the world what we are allowing on this sphere...they are offering a mirror for us all to look in, they are our a part of us, they are us, we are them. There may be some that are here to reap something....but the high volume of suffering beings on this sphere I believe is more to do with souls that have offered to come back and point out to us if we are looking that is....where there is till great works to be done. This is why...I am in no hurry to find home...for there is still much to do here. How can I leave my other selves, when they still are in need? On the path of self...yes, I could. But I know I would only stay on that path till a time where I would have to look back and see what is missing from me...which would be all of my other selves.

People are seeking a home outside of Earth....but I believe that if you are able to incarnate here...you are a part of this unit and I dont believe you can just leave it behind. I believe that trying to leave it behind you....only teaches you more about your own self....with much needed lessons though.

Always, we all see things somewhat differently, for the path of self...influences each being differently. It is healthy for us to share and discuss. Mabey my own misunderstandings is what is going to offer me much lessons needed....but I know, what is needed for me, is what will come. I dont see what I want or desire from this life. Surely, I do have small things that please my 'self'....but for my life after this one...I do offer it back to the Spirit to be of use to my other selves. If that is not what the Spirit finds best for me...then I also know, more lessons will be provided and either is OK.

I actually think the whole harvest thing is bs...I knwo that many dont like that or do not agree with that...but I think its just another marker for the self...just as the religions offer markers for the self. I in no way though....believe in a harvest or rapture of any kind. Just sharing...for there are others that this may resonate with but they are afraid to follow what resonates sense it goes against the new age grain.

Love to all! Its great to be present with open minds in such a shifting in mankind.

LV

and when these many souls are joined as one through conscience/spirit in this earth zone, what then.

is there more advancement to be gained, do some then get left behind and need to break free of this many as one level, while others rise together or are they all joined as one for infinity.




[edit on 7-6-2010 by redgy]

reply to post by redgy


Very good thoughts and questions...Im not sure the soul gets tired from the body complex experience...mabey...I dont know.

I would think that once one is offering back to it all....if there is need for rest for some reason...then rest would be offered back to that soul, just the same.

Still following the law of...what is needed, will be offered.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


This taking on the karma of someone else is a decision made between incarnations and involves 'giving', not receiving. This NOT my opinion, but comes from a very well-known discarnate (F.W Myers) who readily admits that reincarnation is much discussed on the Other side. He claims not to know for certain, but insists that one does not reincarnate innumerable times, probably 4 but no more than 50. The taking on of karma is a complex issue and am sure is agreed on between the two parties. 'Animal Man' would reincarnate automatically yet based on his choice, whereas 'Soul Man' might do so for a specific reason. In short, one is drawn to what one wants.
And I do not like the terms good and evil, but prefer negative and positive.
Here is another short discarnate account related by Dr Magaret Vivian in the book 'The Doorway' , p49, The Psychic Press :

"An old man came over here after an earth life that was by no means exemplary. He was a thief who had killed a man during one of his expeditions, and as soon as he arrived here, he met his victim. He did not know how to express his sorrow, but the victim had no ill feeling and told him he was grateful to have been relieved of a wretched life. The victim set to work to teach the old man that he must atone for his bad life, but that the punishment was automatic and not vindictive. After a time, the murderer and his victims became fast friends and made progress together. It is not always the apparently good people who get on quickly over here"

mclinking

reply to post by mclinking


Thanks for the reply and added thoughts mclinking...appreciate the discussion and sharing very much...

All my best to you and yours
LV

reply to post by LeoVirgo

Hi LeoVirgo,

I in no way though....believe in a harvest

Perhaps it depends on one-1's interpretation/definition of the word, for me Harvest only really means a periodic event, 'time' or cyclic event/season.

Harvest
The time or season of such gathering.
The result or consequence of an activity..
The crop that ripens or is gathered in a season.

Cycle
An interval of time during which a characteristic, often regularly repeated event or sequence of events occurs.
A periodically repeated sequence of events: the cycle of birth, growth, and death; a cycle of reprisal and retaliation..
To pass through a cycle.

Cosmic time cycles
Cyclic events

Season
A period of time:
A recurrent period characterized by certain occurrences,
One of the four natural divisions of the year.

Best Wishes!

reply to post by mclinking

Hi Mclinking,

it could be karma assumed to spiritually advance the taker-on of that karma, which might be a negative personality element, such as impatience.

Karma is a big area, I certainly agree with you on the above. Things happen to people for many reasons and it's not always about karma but that's a big area to get into. What's important to understand though from my perspective is to basically understand the fundamental concept of - consequence to action, cause and affect; as you suggest and even potential karma. I write potential because from my perspective there are certain situations/exceptions everyone-1 differing and it depends on situation/circumstance always)

Best Wishes!

reply to post by ET_MAN


All I can say...is I am a lover of cycles and seasons.

I guess it may be how people use the term today...as if there is something that is going to whisk people away from Earth, while they are alive.

For me, in my understanding...if there is spiritual progression...such as moving forward in dimensions lets say (have issues with that word also 'dimensions' but it will do for now)....a moving forward....happens 'in between' death and life....not during 'life'/existence....in the body complex. I think one must die...and be 'in between' , to move forward. If there is 'harvest' or 'ascensions'...I think these things occur after death...while not in the body complex.

I worry about others...that await something big to happen, like entering a whole new world, new body, with new laws and systems within its foundational makeup....while 'alive'. Like one moment they are here...and the next...suddenly they are in a new place. I worry about the ones awaiting such things.

Whatcha think?

My best always
LV

reply to post by LeoVirgo


You're welcome!

Here's a bit more to consider from FW Myer's. It concerns the tyrant's fate. The tyrant is attracted to a dark place of solitude, and, by his very nature, opts to reincarnate to get out of this self-imposed prison:

"When a soul is born into a defective body it is due to the fact that in a previous existence it committed errors from the results of which it can only escape by submitting to this particular experience.

The apparently inhibited soul of an idiot, for instance, functions on the material plane and gathers, dimly, certain lessons from its earth life. Actually, such men as tyrants and inquisitors often reincarnate as idiots or imbeciles. They have, on the other side of death, learned to sympathise with and understand the sufferings of their victims. These are sometimes of such an appalling character that their perpetrator's center of imagination becomes disorganized and he is doomed to exist throughout his next incarnation in a state of mental disequilibrium. That is to say, he is haunted by the memory of his past sins, ridden by nightmare fears and fancies to which his own deeds have given birth and which are intensified by his knowledge that his unhappy victims yearn for revenge.

There is no set law concerning reincarnation. At a certain point in its progress, the soul reflects, weighs and considers the facts of its own nature in conjunction with its past life on earth. If you are primitive, this meditation is made more through instinct; a kind of emotional thought that stirs up the depths of your being. Then the spirit helps you to choose your future. You have complete free will but your spirit indicates the path you should follow and you frequently obey that indication.

Bear in mind that the power behind each human being is imagination. It preserves the past in the form of memory, and unless temporarily fixed in a mould of its own making, is creating in the present, adding to itself, taking away from itself.

Recognize always the power for fresh creation that is inherent in each center of consciousness. In that power lies the hope of man's future, however low the level of his spiritual life."

A man's imagination = "According to your belief, be it unto you". This imagination may not seem to be a belief, but that's what it is. I understand that the next world is known as 'Illusion Land', each being perceiving according to his level of belief. To truly perceive reality, it is clearly more advantageous to dispel the beliefs one entertains.

mclinking

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by DarkCyrus

 

Its time for you to come home, I really don't know the name of the one I'm talking to, or even where there is suddenly coming from, its somewhere within my heart, a recognition of someone who needs to hear words of love and comfort, and realize its been a long game, haul, school, through many walks and its time to realize that right is never wrong, and love is never hurt, there is no Game Master giving the negative a role to reveal love by showing its opposite, for people do that all on their in this school, and need no extra harshness, but more nudging, joys and inspiration.

Your Family is waiting, so return to them by Love and Taking Responsibility.

Love & Light!

[edit on 7-6-2010 by Unity_99]

These are words that brother must have heard from within or from someone else. He disappeared out of lives after doing two tours of duty (overseas) and we did not see or hear from him for almost 15 years. He arrived on more doorstep with just the clothes on his back. I was so happy to see him that nothing else mattered.

No questions, no criticism, just love and acceptance. He found a job quickly and after living with me for a little more than 6 months and he had enough to get his own place. He later married and has 3 handsome sons. He excelled at his job and became a partner.

So if there is someone out there reading these words and they ring true in your heart than do go home. You really have nothing to lose.

reply to post by LeoVirgo


I think this question is going to fall into the same category as my post on love and hate.

This too is a simple question with a complicated answer. The answer is not a one size fits all solution. It is like a lie; though it may be for all the right reasons it is still a lie.

Though under the right circumstances telling a lie may be the most noble thing to do; it would still be classified as wrong even though it may be right.

reply to post by ET_MAN


Yo Et Man,
According to the Indian Vedas, here is how it goes....

if there is only God with no men, it will not make any sense....

If there are only Men, with no God, it will not make any sense.....

If there are no Men or God, the current reality will not make any sense....

What does this say to YOU???