Tropical storm leaves more than 115 dead in Central America

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I keep wondering if anyone was on it when it went down...there is just no way to know, is there? If a truck, a car a pedestrian...wouldn't that be horrible to have the earth crumble under your feet?

Anybody know anything about that as a possibility?

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A few pages back someone from Guatemala said that someone was known to have fallen with it when it collapsed.

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Well ATS member daskakik, who lives in Guatemala, gave a reply to my inquiry when he stated:

"The hole is 21.52 meters in diameter and 31.25 meters deep." and cited what I believe was from a news report the following:

"Fernando Choc Caal witnessed as his brother Rigoberto Choc Caal disappeared into the sink hole that occured at 11th avenue and 6th street in zone 2."

"Fernando said that they had gone out to find a payphone saturday night."

"We headed out at about 7 p.m. I was behind him because was walking very fast When he got to the corner he told me to hurry up. I heard a loud noise and looked towards Marti Street. When I looked back towards my brother, he was no longer there, there was just a lot of dust; I got closer and where Rigo had been there was a huge hole."

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Yes! That's the one. I couldn't find it fast enough.

Can you imagine witnessing the creation of that hole? I'm sure it seemed as it was the end of the world, especially seeing buildings and your loved one(s) fall into it as it progressively grows.

Poor people.

Originally posted by Donnie Darko

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
I want to know where are all the usual sub-surface things like sewage pipes, water pipes, etc.?

Wouldn't the ends of them be seen on the sides of at least some of the pictured holes?

this is Guatemala. do they even have them?

Of course they don't have them. They don't have running water, use only candlelight at night, no cars, they use donkeys since they have recently discovered the uses of the wheel.


(sarcasm) Jeez!

What if a storm hits the gulf hurricane season is comin up will all that oil be thrown onto land?

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Can you imagine witnessing the creation of that hole? I'm sure it seemed as it was the end of the world, especially seeing buildings and your loved one(s) fall into it as it progressively grows.

Poor people.

The problem is that they probably never conducted any land/soil analyses before they built on top of that area.
It wouldn't surprise me if this happened again in Guatemala City.
Hopefully this will make construction authorities there think before they hand over more building permits.

Imagine this happening underneath a school or a hospital?

And remember that Guatemala is an earthquake-prone country.

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Yeah since it happened in 2007 and now in 2010, it may happen again soon. How would they try to predict where next though, I wonder?

Originally posted by haika

Originally posted by Donnie Darko

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
I want to know where are all the usual sub-surface things like sewage pipes, water pipes, etc.?

Wouldn't the ends of them be seen on the sides of at least some of the pictured holes?

this is Guatemala. do they even have them?

Of course they don't have them. They don't have running water, use only candlelight at night, no cars, they use donkeys since they have recently discovered the uses of the wheel.


(sarcasm) Jeez!

Dude I asked that because I couldn't SEE them in the photo. Not because I thought they wouldn't have them.

I was looking for anomalies pointing to a hoax at first, you see???

In poor countries like that, it would be crazy to think that the government would require extensive deep geological testing before allowing anything to be built. (not calling you crazy, just the idea seems far fetched) There are some code regs that have to be adhered to, but even here in the US, you don't have to have the ground tested for the possibility of a sinkhole happening in order to build a house.
People there just pay off a government employee, and build whatever they think they can get away with. It's pretty much like zoning here, except that the payoff is more structured with all the permitting process here.
It's a concept that is not hard to understand if you have ever been to Mexico, or any of the Central American countries and out of the main tourist areas.

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I did read that it swallowed a three story building. It does look like an intersection...there are 17 photos posted at yahoo.

Interesting...

www.n2yo.com...

The top secret X-37B military craft flew awfully close to Guatemala right around the time this thing happened. OMG SCALAR WEAPONZ!

Just connecting some dots for the fun of it.

Wow, I definitely thought it was photo-shopped when I first saw the OP.

This is of noachian proportions here people... at least that's what it looks like to me. I would love to go down there an see what's there, even if it's just water it would still be a fun ride.

Maybe they will make it some sort of amusement park ride - you get shot straight down then back up (forget what that damn ride is called).

Would be pretty fun IMO.

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Like an inverted Dr. von Doom's ride in Islands of Adventure? Or bungy jumping?

Whoa I never imagined that this could happen again. Really turbulent month for Guatemala. Lets see what the city Mayor, Alvaro Arzu, has to say about this.

Algun otro Guatemalteco frecuenta este foro? De que parte de Guatemala?

Once again, I tip my hat to the absolute "wow" factor of mother nature.

I took in a breath when I seen the photo of 2010s' sinkhole!

Anyone for spelunking??

a deadly virus unknown to man that was locked in its cage has now been released hahahah you never know

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I second that, was just going to list that when I came across your post.

Doesn't look fake, have heard of other sink holes in SA.

Strange, wonder what / who is at the bottom?

BP somehow siphoned the dirt out to make their drilling mud for the top kill.



/sarcasm

I find it hard to believe that a storm system caused this. Maybe by some highly improbable sequence of events with the proper variables it might be possible but this just doesn't sit well with me.

IMO: Sounds like something our government would do - wait for a storm system to approach while they do their whatever-work and blame the odd scene of damage on a natural occurrence from a bad storm.

Anyone see this picture and news item and have a flashback to the other recent post of a strange seismic activity that affected most of the world in a very short, almost unnatural time period? I mean what the heck is at the bottom of this near perfect cylindrical hole, other than what appears to be some kind of cavity at the bottom?

Sinkhole, maybe. Would like to know if there have ever been sinkhole activity in this area and what kind of rock composes this area. Usually limestone erodes to form sinkholes from what I understand and I could be wrong. I just feel like something is up, dots are too small to connect I guess.