We are free!! They are leaving us!

Humans always had to work and will always work for survival.
The only difference between being a slave of nature and a slave of corporation is our inability to provide our own needs.
We rely on corporation to bring us everything we need (including all the unnecessary gadget and tech) making us dependent of the only lifestyle we know : consumerism.
I don't understand your awakening and what you mean by 'they are leaving us' and I'd be interested to see how you are going to live your life from now on.

best regards

The path of self, as in looking within ones self with self honesty, is the path of empowerment, and heals all anxiety, depression, stress or whatever shaky thing you speak of. I don't think any of these people have stated they are into self indulgence, as you are suggesting, but rather the exact opposite. Why are you in this thread if you feel beat on or judged? Doesn't that say more about you than them? IMO, they are giving more than the average person in America does just by sharing there story's, because they are confirming TRUE happiness can be found within ones self and not in the external material world. Just because you work all day and pay taxes to TPTB who spend it as they see fit, does not mean your more of a giver! Right?

Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by LifeIsEnergy

 

Like where did he say others are judging him> I must of missed something?

Many people siding with the OP have called the others weak...so why are you only on offense with Timelord?

For real? Never mind, I am wasting my time. Again why are you in this thread?

Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
The path of self, as in looking within ones self with self honesty, is the path of empowerment, and heals all anxiety, depression, stress or whatever shaky thing you speak of. I don't think any of these people have stated they are into self indulgence, as you are suggesting, but rather the exact opposite. Why are you in this thread if you feel beat on or judged? Doesn't that say more about you than them? IMO, they are giving more than the average person in America does just by sharing there story's, because they are confirming TRUE happiness can be found within ones self and not in the external material world. Just because you work all day and pay taxes to TPTB who spend it as they see fit, does not mean your more of a giver! Right?

I have never showed a issue with feeling beat on or judged? And I have shared my stories at ATS...it is all I do around here...sharing my personal experiences.

Im not talking about not seeking within the self, of course this is a must. But what do you live for....do you live for the self...or for all of your others selves. You are really twisting things no one has ever said. Who said I work all day? Im a care giver...I offer myself to care for others. I work in my garden...I work in my yard and gathering my own food. I share my home...there is nothing I keep just for me. You are making assumptions friend. Yes, happiness can be found be seeking within ones self...and I am not in need of the material world. Within my path of seeking...I have discovered the worth of living for others....even though I seek within and have found happiness there...doesnt mean I also have not discovered my true contentment comes by offering myself to others and the Universe as it see's fit.

I dont think you understand what I mean when I say...there is a path of living for the self...and there is a path of living for others.

As you stated in another post...you understand you are a part of the ALL...which is much more then many have said in this thread.

reply to post by daddio


That was truly divine!

Read the whole thing....agree 100%!

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy


Wow...I looked back at all of his posts...he never said or complained that others were judging him. He kept saying...he only brought his thoughts and his own experiences.

There was one time he said....others building their houses on shaky foundations. This again...comes back to the path of self...this is a shaky foundation that will one day fall and the person will see it is not about the self at all.

He did not say many of the things you accused him of saying....just as you accused me of saying I was being judged here....I never said that. I did comment to Evolved Ministry because he called those that dont get what he and the OP understand are 'weak'. These are not things a person that 'gets it' would say about the ones that are still learning.

We are ONE...and its not right to belittle those that are still living in need of material things. We must try to find understanding for the path they are on...for it offering them what they are in need of learning..and they will reap what they sow.

Its all OK....we bring the same message...there is no reason to fear...there is no reason to be attached to material things.

But we also brought warning for those that think all the bad things are just going to fall away. Coping skills are a must for what is ahead.

Originally posted by LeoVirgo

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

Don't listen to the voices of weakness, they still need their bondage to define who they are, and with it, they need for you to fit that definition as well. (misery loves company)

Enlightenment is the hardest work a human can do, which is the precise reason why only a tiny select few even try. You're there. This message will only resonate with those who are attempting ascension.

Much love to you my friend.

Much love to all...

I consider myself to be in the middle field here...for this path is one I have walked. I think I have done some of the deepest researching out there for all of this stuff...I have had so many realizations occur and have brought them all forward for my other self to observe, all the mechanics of this 'enlightenment' I have been through, have practiced, have experienced...then you come on as a 'enlightened one' who is 'seeking assesion' and call others 'weak'. Now what does that say? Surely....you know better then this?


There are some amazing awakeings going on deep within some people...but the majority are on a ego trip...a Chrsit complex kick if you will....this path is no different then the religious path that teaches people to see for self salvation. How can I tell the difference between the ones who are serious and the ones who have tripped while soaring high....its easy. One seeks for the self...and the other does not.

Just as a good person pointed out to me early...we cant show someone something they are not ready to face. So what good would it do me to show you that the path of seeking ascension is a path of self....AND NOT a path of serving others. Did you here that> Im sure you are well aware of the importance of the choice right now. You say you have gained wisdom...others say so have they....but you all are only anxious to gain your rest....while YOUR OTHER SELVES....are still suffering through their lessons. ITS NOT ABOUT mastering and slavery. This world is set up just as it was meant to be....we all had a part in it. It is perfect...and it is working. Im wondering if some of the ones seeking ascension do so out of fear that they cant handle the true mirror.

Knowing that your physical body is not what to cling to is one thing....knowing this does not make you enlightened is another.


I need no bondage....and I will never call anyone weak...for I understand that where ever they are on their path is serving them what they are in need of. I am shocked at your reaction to others...forgive them for what they do not know! And for you to stand there in glory as if they are lower by calling them weak? Really ...Im shocked.


For what it is worth...and not much I guess because I am weak sense I worried about the OP who claimed to NOT NEED FOOD OR WATER....I learned through my HARD WORK....that ascension...seeking this...is no different then the path that seeks self salvation. I learned....to offer myself back to it all....for what ever the universe needs me to be. Detaching myself from the material world was one thing....yes, that was hard. Being willing to come back or stay for my other selves.....that is a whole new ball game that obviously very very few on this thread have discovered. You will see...once you have some rest...and bask in your dream world...you will see something is missing...and that something is the something that you ran away from so quickly. That something is a part of you...no matter how much you detach yourself for the material world...you can not detach yourself from your other selves.

Truth is...I KNOW...I KNOW...it does me no good to throw wise things to those that will shrug them as foolishness...but your words 'weak' pulled on the Earthling in me and there are times where I have learned its OK to be me, in this skin, and react for the need of others.

You had no right...Mr. ascension. While you all bask in your so called rest...there is work to do...and much of it.

Ill still be here for many many years...any of you that have trouble adapting and coping...when you fall back to Earth...there will be some of us who are actually getting it.

You really think that a world full of people seeking a path of self is going to lead to a nice place? How do you think we all got here??????? Again...we reap what we sow...it is the law of the Universe..and it works perfectly.

As another wise poster said on here....and I believe also a great scientist said....

ONLY A LIFE LIVED FOR OTHERS>>>IS A LIFE WORTHWHILE> IT IS THE PURPOSE FOR OUR EXISTENCE TO SERVE OTHERS.

So there...I throw pearls to the wayside...mabey there will be a humbled soul to see them and take care of them.

Regrets...I have none. Fear? What is that?

That stuff is cake...compared to the true work.

Path of self...or path of serving others....eventually all of you on the path of self...will have to look and see you must abandoned the path that is not.


Caring for another is not weak...and many here have posted out of love for another self...not because they DONT GET IT...or are ATTACHED TO BONDAGE.

So fast to throw words...so fast to call yourselves wise. Good luck on your journeys....my other selves.

LV

Um No. You said that I gained wisdom, that idea was not in my post whatsoever. I cannot claim to have the ultimate path, however, when I said "weakness," I was referring to those who choose to criticize someone with ignorance and hatred because they do not agree with someone else's path. There have been many insults on this thread because many have chosen to insult the OP, and I merely made a comment as a result. You read into the information the way that you chose to, and then went on a roller coaster ride from there.

Instead of looking to pick someone apart, you might want to look at the context of the entire post.

But, I won't return your critique of my post in the same fashion that you did to me. Instead, I will say this...

Much love to all...

reply to post by Visitor2012


Welcome to the greater truth, friend. What you have written is beautiful and eloquent, and I am glad you have awakened; It is so much sweeter, isn't it?

to Kill_Dog....It is quite a shame you believe the material world is what constitutes a full life. Your eyes will open, too, one day; whether by force, or by choice.

S&F

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy


The point of anything I do is my purpose and I know that my actions serve a purpose. If you don't understand that purpose (as you clearly don't judging from your previous post) that's not my fault. I'm merely offerring a different perspective. If your reality can't stand up to a little critical questioning on a forum. What hope do you have in the real world. Look your life is your own and how you live it is your destiny unfortunately for your ego you live in a world with people you can't control. As such there will be people that do things you don't like. They serve a purpose, you can't see it yet but if you are on a path of enlightenment you will.

As Leo Virgo has stated we are mirrors to each other. What you hate in another is really an aspect of your own personality you haven't yet learned to love.

Best of luck on your quest.

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy



I have never called anybody a drug junkie hippie or any other name. The fact that I am being accused of such things speaks for itself. Why do people find it so hard to understand that it's all good. Why are people so hook up on sides? Stop judging people on your standards. I'm not saying your path is wrong I'm just saying there is much more to learn. Being awake and enlightened are two different things. NOBODY IS WRONG!!! can't you get that? Everybody has a purpose and we all play our part. I'm not judging you because I know this is just your opinion at the moment it will change as you change. Not everything in life is an attact on you.

reply to post by unityemissions


If so let him die happily. Im glad to see someone is for once.

Originally posted by Visitor2012
This message might be hard for some of you to believe, since the reality of your world seems so gloom and dim. Here's the news that I've retrieved from the global conscience of humanity!!

You have seen the abyss my friend and it has forever changed you.

Originally posted by FrancoUn-American
reply to post by unityemissions

 

If so let him die happily. Im glad to see someone is for once.

I too will die happy knowing that I did my best , that I was honest , hardworking , and compassionate to my fellow man, but I will die with a pang of guilt that there are those that covert money and trinkets that they cannot ever take with them on their final journey.
Well I say guilt more like humor.
All that fighting , grabbing, all the anguish they've caused to others only serves a purpose and no matter how much they acquire , it will never be enough to pay off the debts they have incurred through their life of grab.

We should all be prepared and live each day like it is our last.

Originally posted by truthseeker1984

Originally posted by Visitor2012

Originally posted by WickettheRabbit
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

You see. Our enlightened OP has claimed that anyone who doesn't believe the same way is "foolish" as compared to their "smarter" selves.

Ego-rific.

I left beliefs at the door. Let's get serious and stop talking as if this is so mysterious.

If you opened the door and saw the ocean. Would you then need belief to tell you it's there?

He does have a point though Visitor2012:

The same pitfall that I spoke to UE about, is the very same one that you are falling into now. I have no doubt that you had a very personal and very spiritual experience, and I can understand your anger at the disrespect that those that have responded to this thread have shown you. However, this also does not excuse the act of claiming that you know better than the next person down the line, which is also a form of disrespect.

Is it indeed disrespect to insist that I have seen something, that someone else is trying to tell me I didn't see? I don't know about you, but I call that sticking to my convictions...

Maybe you very well do know the answers, but by trying to "force" this "knowledge" into someone else's brain is the exact same reason why I tried to help moderate in the first place. Your point becomes more invalid as you fall into the same level of discussion as other posters to this thread.

You're more on-point here. Engaging a human not having perception of the subtle, and trying to convince same of the existence of the subtle, is certain to result in frustration and a lowering of the vibration of the one who can perceive the subtle. Maybe to the point of not being able to see it anymore.

The dichotomy of believer and non-believer is intense in this thread, and will be subject to more of the same unless both sides agree to disagree. Nobody can disprove that you had this experience, no more than you can prove that your experience is valid.

We have this annoying Maxim, "He who leaves the battlefield first concedes defeat". What if you refuse to engage in the first place? The monkeys hop up and down, crowing about their victory. Therefore it is to be seen that starting this kind of thread is only for the mature who will be able to refrain from engaging the "monkeys".

The OP is right. Last year I had a bizzare flashback while wide awake. As I passed an old farm I have passed a hundred times, I witnessed my funeral during the civil war.

In a split second, I gathered details of the scene that would have required 15 minutes of study.

In December of 2009, I started repeating, out loud, over and over "I am going to increase my income 300%. I will get my wife's book published and get the patent."

It is actually working. I got a new job in sales. This week I've already earned double my old salary and I have 2 days left.

I have come to believe our conscious lives are like lucid dreams. With practice and conviction, we can alter our reality.

The Law of Attraction works. That is the secret

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

Congratulations...And yes, I know exactly what you are going through...You are free of the matrix now my friend. We picked a great time to incarnate, as a shift is occuring like none other. All is being revealed. Nice to cross paths with you.

The funny thing is that you really picked this time to incarnate because you knew that Ascension will happen during this lifetime.

Let's see, the OP is nondescript and superficial. He hasn't accomplished anything spiritually or materially. So we, being exposed to this lack of quality 24/7 now celebrate him. And he, feeling validated for expanding on an unintelligent thought, will go through life in the delusion that he is somehow exceptional.

Fifteen years from now, assuming this change in consciousness happens, people will be smart enough to disregard this dilated tripe and the OP will be humbled by a major irony. Then, hopefully, spend the rest of his days elevating his humanity.

Americans praise books like The Great Gatsby and The Catcher in the Rye for the same reasons.

Please, for the love of God, stop doing THIS.

Thanks Oprah.

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Hello EM....

First let me say...I did receive the blow of energies upon me for hashing out at you directly. I knew I would...before I ever wrote that post, for it is how this all works. The warning signs of my shivers were there...but I still...had to stick up for some of the people here, just as you felt the need to do. It is funny how much we can care for another self...ya know someone can call me names all day long and I dont care...but when I think there is a self that is having issues with facing some things, still very much learning about who they are, and I feel someone has cut them so to speak....this warrior in me wants to stand tall.

No different then the same need you felt to stand tall for the OP.

I know I would receive a blow to my energies for stepping down a level within my nature...but sometimes, this is why we are in these bodies, they are genius little instruments.

I did say that you felt you had wisdom...and I think we all are ignoring the fact that it takes ego to think 'we know anything at all'. To say....we are seeking a difficult path, seeking a unique and often hard to find walkway...surely we are seeking wisdom on that path? Surely. So that use of words....I was picking up more on your vibration of all your postings put together...after I had read them, that was the vibration that stood out to me, the idea that some have found this knowledge, and almost as if the ones who have not a clue...well 'oh well' for them.

I apologize for the smart arse name of mr assension that I wrote....but along with that...what fulled that burst of flame within me to write that...was that you do not see...the true reason for being. I left some very polished pearls in that posts as well...for those that are on the path of serving the self...they will walk right over them and not ever noticed.

My path of seeking ascension was needed...just as though earlier in my life my path of religion was needed. They helped lead me to where I am today...on the path of serving my other selves. If I would not of sought out this entire ascension thing, as you suggested is what you are doing, I would of never saw what I am a part of and how selfish that choice does become.

There comes a time when our unit of selves will be on clearly two paths...way beyond this world. There will be those that chose to live for the self...there will be those that chose to live for others. One path will have to be abandoned for us all to move forward to the next wonder. The path of self will be so drenched in love and light...they will have to leave behind the path of self. So in the end...it is all still OK....but being there are so few here understanding the differences in the two...I am sure hoping we get a few more who see where the Universe truly does need them and truly does release the idea of being a 'self' a 'individual'....as I said, you can try to leave your other selves through ascension, but one day you will have to look back.

People think they are incarnating here just to leave. What is the point. If you are ready for the next level...you did not have to incarnate here to get there.

You incarnate here for your choice. The choice must be made without you having all the knowing within of what is going on. The choice...is made....within your true nature.

If you are seeking the path of ascension (self) this shows a nature in you. If you truly offer yourself back to where it came from (the all) this shows a nature in you. Both are valid, both serve purpose hre right now, and both will serve purpose for the individual/and the all later on as well.

How in the world I got into all of this was out of concern for a poster saying to tap into this other world he had to be without food and water on a empty stomach. My starting on this thread was out of love for another being. He also seemed to struggle very much with not being able to adapt to the world around him....so I worry for all of those that struggle with this...for if they dont get whisked away...and the 'THEY' dont really leave....what will everyone then do?

There are some very fragile people on this thread who have trouble accepting life around them, trouble coping with environments they dont like, trouble that life is not just all peaches and cream. These people are going to crash hard.

None of us are any better then the other was my point in response to you.

My best to all
LV

Originally posted by AProphet1233
Let's see, the OP is nondescript and superficial. He hasn't accomplished anything spiritually or materially. So we, being exposed to this lack of quality 24/7 now celebrate him. And he, feeling validated for expanding on an unintelligent thought, will go through life in the delusion that he is somehow exceptional.

No disrespect,but who are you to judge a man for what he is thinking .And how do you know what he has accomplished?

It's one thing to disagree with his opinion and another to call him all this names without even explaining us why do you think he is all that.Unless you know the guy and you hold something against him which is not of our concern.

And FYI every person is exceptional,each in their own way.

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Everyone wants to say judging is wrong. But how do you think we are learning from eachother? How do we weigh and measure what another says or is doing?

I do agree...the poster you replied to used harsh words...and I understand your need to respond to that. But every single post says something about ourselves.

In many many posts....groups have been lumped together...such as 'people with jobs'...and then accusations are made about these groups. Someone who finds the advice unhealthy or unwsie is not just judging something out side of themselves....they are weighing something within...knowing where they themselves stand...knowing and meassuring what is right for them. In response to what they feel is right for them...there seems to be labeling and acfcusations of 'right and wrong'. Its just not that cut and dry....people today are figuring out alot about themselves and the world around them.

We have people telling others to just drop all their worries...dont worry about money, homes, food.

My life has changed through many of the ways of the OP and other posters...but the outcome for me is very different so I think I should share that here. I work harder...but not for the society system. I take more joy in accomplishments. I take more care of what I do eat...and I enjoy tending and growing my own food now.

Part of critical thinking is bringing that thinking forth to our other selves. We all need to be challenged and we all need to weigh and measure things for ourselves.

This is going to get harsh response...that is just the way it is. Some people are going to be defensive of such things. Not in just that the OP finds this a good path....but there are people here telling others to do this and that they will find happiness.

There are some dangerous ideas going on here in this thread. It is going to be judged. It is human nature to weigh and measure and then share thoughts. Its how we figure things. Its how we also show concern when we find a idea not so wise for the world.

What would happen if tomorrow...every single person didnt go to work. No one went out to the farms. No one cared for live stock. No one tended to the convenience stores for easy access of goods. Eventually....food would be scarce....eventually...seasons will come and people would freeze for they dont have a way to pay for their heat. There are huge blunders to this idea....it may work for a very few people...because there are people tending to the shelters they have, there are people working hard in the farms that the food that just so happens to find its way to their mouth, there was someone that left things to them and that someone received that land or money through means of work or being offered it to them as well. This can work for some on a small level....but we must work in the farms, we must tend to the animals, we must tend to the Earth and keep our selves clean which takes water in our homes and we need heat in our homes. This all takes workers...this world will not revolve if everyone goes out and enters contests for snowboarding to make their living.

We must think critically.





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