We are free!! They are leaving us!

Response to OP and some of the comments on the first two pages (I have not yet read the entire thread):

I'm sorry, but physical slavery is the human condition. If you don't eat, you die. But where does the food come from? People work to produce it. Human population figures are far, far beyond the point where everybody can just live off the land like it's some kind of Garden of Eden.

This whole "why should I have to work just to live" mantra throughout this thread makes me think of a spoiled child out of touch with reality.

A wonderful and inspiring article related to this is here: www.harrybrowne.org... (though I do not condone Browne's cop out of getting her an actual present :-) )

I do sympathize with the struggle against psychological slavery. Almost everything we are told is a lie, and the thing is self-perpetuating because the deceived teach the deceived; the blind are leading the blind.

Spiritual enlightenment may indeed come from removing these chains. But if it also means removing the chains of physical slavery, then it means death. Cause and effect. Still, it may very well be worth it. Who knows what's after this life?


[edit on 27-5-2010 by NewlyAwakened]

Originally posted by prophecywatcher
Religion is not entrapment or slavery. It is freedom! Jesus will set you free.

Jesus died on a cross so that we do NOT need religion to be near him. Thank God.

To be completely free is to no longer posess the ego that allows us to tell others that we are. We are all on our own unique journies, where many need the materialistic life they work hard for so as to learn who they are, and that is their path. Sometimes lessons are learnt, and sometimes they are not, to then forever be repeated.

Your new found awakening my friend would never have occurred if it wernt for the many that chose not to. What may seem as negative in this world, is really what has helped us all to evolve.

I don't think this kind of freedom is allowed anywhere on the planet anymore. Where can I be truley free?

Originally posted by SentientBeyondDesign
Unfortunately, I haven't encountered this epiphany process.

I recognize the pattern of "deal with it", and I must say that I thoroughly despise it.

However, "letting go of responsibility" in this realm would surely lead to damaging consequences. No? This is what realists identify with most. What the most rational of us identify with most. To tell them to abandon their "home-mindset" in light of something fantastical warrants some pretty bitter responses, to say the least.


This is the dilemma with any of these ascension/mystical topics. They don't exactly bridge any gaps between the material and the ether. They basically tell you, "You can't understand it until you experience it."


It's just so annoying to be told such vague and unspecific things.

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While I can identify with the great unknown, I can also identify with the immediate. You're going to sound like a nutty-bar to people unless you speak their language. And they're going to sound ridiculous to you, unless they speak yours.

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I would absolutely love to believe that there is more to existence than a rough and tumble cynical adventure. I would love to embrace an existence with far more correlation and meaning. I despise the psychological mechanisms around us that force us to become things we don't care to become. We live lives we didn't want to live. And what kind of lives are those ... if not wasted?


Surely, you have those that verily peck at you with the misfortune of the many. Those without limbs, without money, with poor health and burdened with tremendous responsibilities without even understanding how they ended up so down-trodden.

I understand that humility has its place. But at the same time ... we can consciously acknowledge that it is a mechanism we use to cope with our own misfortune.

At the end of the day, if I'm eating a moldy fungus and larvae ridden piece of chicken; and you're eating a hunk a poop. Yeah, I can say, "At least I'm not eating poop." And you're right. You're a bit better off, so be sure to be grateful for that.




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But then again ... You're still eating a moldy fungus and larvae infested piece of chicken.

[edit on 27-5-2010 by SentientBeyondDesign]

There is no bridge between the material and the ether, if that's what you're looking for. Either you choose one or the other as your main focus in life, or you are CONFINED by the other.

Tell me, how do you explain the unexplainable??? Do me a favor and describe the color red (especially without using additional color as reference). Can't??? Well, that's because you're looking for a tangible explanation about something that cannot be described or bridged in your conventional understanding of reality. The physical is an illusion of epic proportions, and if you base everything that you understand by the limitations of your physical senses, then you miss out on all of the other dimensions that exist simultaneously within the three dimensions that you perceive. We know that the ultraviolet range/dimension exists because of scientific discoveries, yet, the physical limitations of your human senses does not allow for your perceptions to register them.

Now, take that principle and try to apply them to the ether. You can't, because your senses are limited strictly to what you physically perceive. This is the trap that the majority of humanity has allowed themselves to fall into repetitively. This is the trap that gets released when one seeks ascension.

Much love to all...

reply to post by Visitor2012

Wow great message and you truly are being freed from years of dependance and slavery. You see my friend we are all being bought to full consciousness with the help of benevolent ET'S, angels, spirt guides ascended masters and many more beings of the christ lighted consciousness. BTW I hear there are many souls on earth today from the continent of Atlantis and also Lemuria. You are definetly on the right track and god bless you as you continue on your journey. You are so right as 2012 has been happening for years now but most peoplee dont understand this.

Originally posted by NewlyAwakened
Response to OP and some of the comments on the first two pages (I have not yet read the entire thread):

I'm sorry, but physical slavery is the human condition. If you don't eat, you die. But where does the food come from? People work to produce it. Human population figures are far, far beyond the point where everybody can just live off the land like it's some kind of Garden of Eden.

This whole "why should I have to work just to live" mantra throughout this thread makes me think of a spoiled child out of touch with reality.

A wonderful and inspiring article related to this is here: www.harrybrowne.org... (though I do not condone Browne's cop out of getting her an actual present :-) )

I do sympathize with the struggle against psychological slavery. Almost everything we are told is a lie, and the thing is self-perpetuating because the deceived teach the deceived; the blind are leading the blind.

Spiritual enlightenment may indeed come from removing these chains. But if it also means removing the chains of physical slavery, then it means death. Cause and effect. Still, it may very well be worth it. Who knows what's after this life?


[edit on 27-5-2010 by NewlyAwakened]

Everything you said is true, if we continued to live in the world the way it is. But I'm talking about changing the world itself, by releasing the minds of the "civilized" world, waking them up, and starting the work of global healing and new technologies that are just waiting to be released when the death threats and assassinations come to an end.

I'm not talking about smelling roses and walking around in white gowns pretending to be holy and better than everyone else. I'm talking about a true awakening that is happening on this planet. Everyone seeing the world for what it truly is. A disaster area on the verge of imploding if things don't turn around.

As far as I can tell, it has to start with each and every human being on Earth, realizing that they want complete freedom of mind oppression and slave systems of economy.

Originally posted by jGunner
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

Wow great message and you truly are being freed from years of dependance and slavery. You see my friend we are all being bought to full consciousness with the help of benevolent ET'S, angels, spirt guides ascended masters and many more beings of the christ lighted consciousness. BTW I hear there are many souls on earth today from the continent of Atlantis and also Lemuria. You are definetly on the right track and god bless you as you continue on your journey. You are so right as 2012 has been happening for years now but most peoplee dont understand this.

Thankyou for your words of encouragement jGunner. Sometimes I start to get a little down when I expose my thoughts and ideas to people here on ATS. Everyone feels attacked and bites.

Sometimes I want to bite back, but I know that never yields positive results.

So you are in contact with the spirit of Pegasus and you are a descendant of Atlantis? Haha.

I love heartfelt amazing epiphanies but this is just psycho talk.

76 flags? seriously?

Wow... whats happening to ATS? Has it become a preacher's corner? I mean... I'm happy for ya all but 76 flags for... this?

Um, what is going on? So the OP says he became enlightened. That's great, but how will that save the world? I mean, like, knowing that you have been a slave all your life doesn't exactly prevent the PTB from sending you off to a concentration camp. The wars, disasters, etc. are still going to happen and this doesn't really help except maybe to offer you a little comfort into accepting your death. I thought he actually had some interesting revelations from being an "Atlantis incarnate", but it's just a bunch of sensationalist "wake up people" propaganda. Pretty much everyone here on ATS is already awakened. That's why they're posting on this site, right?

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
76 flags? seriously?

Wow... whats happening to ATS? Has it become a preacher's corner? I mean... I'm happy for ya all but 76 flags for... this?

Amazing. Here's a guy who just downed the thread that he himself posted an opinion on and then complains about the amount of flags that another poster has received.

Your contribution only helped the popularity that you wholeheartedly hate.

Much love to all...

Originally posted by wolfwood290
Um, what is going on? So the OP says he became enlightened. That's great, but how will that save the world? I mean, like, knowing that you have been a slave all your life doesn't exactly prevent the PTB from sending you off to a concentration camp. The wars, disasters, etc. are still going to happen and this doesn't really help except maybe to offer you a little comfort into accepting your death. I thought he actually had some interesting revelations from being an "Atlantis incarnate", but it's just a bunch of sensationalist "wake up people" propaganda. Pretty much everyone here on ATS is already awakened. That's why they're posting on this site, right?

Incorrect. Just because you postulate ideas that remain on the fringe of society does not make you awakened, nor does it mean you have the "inside track" of what's really happening. It's not quite that easy.

A person who is "awake" will not come to a thread of an "enlightened other," simply to downgrade them in order to boost one's own ego, or criticize them because they feel the need to share their point of view.

Keep that in mind.

Much love to all...

reply to post by Visitor2012


Thanks for sharing your experience. Accompany you on your feelings and you should know that you are very far from alone. There are many people on this planet waking up now, even most of the fools who attack you. No wonder they bother to reply. I have flashes of memories I have been in Atlantis and before on other worlds. I know people who live in this world who have real powers in an active state and are here to assist in the collective awakening. I advise you to not waste energy arguing with people you want to take the negative path. Your intention to help others by sharing your experience, will always give results. Do not throw your pearls to pigs.

"Live long and prosper".

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry

A person who is "awake" will not come to a thread of an "enlightened other," simply to downgrade them in order to boost one's own ego, or criticize them because they feel the need to share their point of view.

Keep that in mind.

Much love to all...

I totaly agree with you.

Originally posted by QuetzalcoatlAlien
So you are in contact with the spirit of Pegasus and you are a descendant of Atlantis? Haha.

I love heartfelt amazing epiphanies but this is just psycho talk.

ya, and the very thing you call "communications" only moves in one linear fashon and makes no sense whatsoever any other way?

boots [mirror/reversed] stood
yep, boots have been known to stand

shower [mirror/reversed] rewosh
yep, i'm rewashing the same parts as last time

effort [mirror/reverse+phonetics] troffe = trophy
yep, a trophy is physical proof of an effort


i bet you think time has only 3 ingredients:
past present future


here is an anagram (a phrase that contains the same letters, same ingedients)

DIRECTIVE: ACT MENTAL
TIME TRAVEL ACCIDENT


if they say they are from atlantis, they are from atlantis!

anagram:
SIGNS OF ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS
ATLANTIS ???????????????????


(since your opinion is so smart, we will let you figure out the other 19 letters placements, *some assembly required)

reply to post by lel1111

This is not freedom. This is propaganda. Straight from the mouths of the democrats. What the democrats are talking about is communism when they say quit your job. When they pollute our mind with green lies. I implore you to get as many books as you can and read,read,read. Educate yourself.
Ask yourself why these democrats that tell you this never quit their jobs. Why do they always talk of the sacrifices,hardships,and of the many hard fought battles they have had over the years to get where they are,but say it will be a walk in the park for you?
I'll tell you why. Because they have an agenda. To keep you ignorant and them powerful.
READ,READ,READ!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
reply to post by Visitor2012

 

Don't listen to the voices of weakness, they still need their bondage to define who they are, and with it, they need for you to fit that definition as well. (misery loves company)

Enlightenment is the hardest work a human can do, which is the precise reason why only a tiny select few even try. You're there. This message will only resonate with those who are attempting ascension.

Much love to you my friend.

Much love to all...

I consider myself to be in the middle field here...for this path is one I have walked. I think I have done some of the deepest researching out there for all of this stuff...I have had so many realizations occur and have brought them all forward for my other self to observe, all the mechanics of this 'enlightenment' I have been through, have practiced, have experienced...then you come on as a 'enlightened one' who is 'seeking assesion' and call others 'weak'. Now what does that say? Surely....you know better then this?


There are some amazing awakeings going on deep within some people...but the majority are on a ego trip...a Chrsit complex kick if you will....this path is no different then the religious path that teaches people to see for self salvation. How can I tell the difference between the ones who are serious and the ones who have tripped while soaring high....its easy. One seeks for the self...and the other does not.

Just as a good person pointed out to me early...we cant show someone something they are not ready to face. So what good would it do me to show you that the path of seeking ascension is a path of self....AND NOT a path of serving others. Did you here that> Im sure you are well aware of the importance of the choice right now. You say you have gained wisdom...others say so have they....but you all are only anxious to gain your rest....while YOUR OTHER SELVES....are still suffering through their lessons. ITS NOT ABOUT mastering and slavery. This world is set up just as it was meant to be....we all had a part in it. It is perfect...and it is working. Im wondering if some of the ones seeking ascension do so out of fear that they cant handle the true mirror.

Knowing that your physical body is not what to cling to is one thing....knowing this does not make you enlightened is another.


I need no bondage....and I will never call anyone weak...for I understand that where ever they are on their path is serving them what they are in need of. I am shocked at your reaction to others...forgive them for what they do not know! And for you to stand there in glory as if they are lower by calling them weak? Really ...Im shocked.


For what it is worth...and not much I guess because I am weak sense I worried about the OP who claimed to NOT NEED FOOD OR WATER....I learned through my HARD WORK....that ascension...seeking this...is no different then the path that seeks self salvation. I learned....to offer myself back to it all....for what ever the universe needs me to be. Detaching myself from the material world was one thing....yes, that was hard. Being willing to come back or stay for my other selves.....that is a whole new ball game that obviously very very few on this thread have discovered. You will see...once you have some rest...and bask in your dream world...you will see something is missing...and that something is the something that you ran away from so quickly. That something is a part of you...no matter how much you detach yourself for the material world...you can not detach yourself from your other selves.

Truth is...I KNOW...I KNOW...it does me no good to throw wise things to those that will shrug them as foolishness...but your words 'weak' pulled on the Earthling in me and there are times where I have learned its OK to be me, in this skin, and react for the need of others.

You had no right...Mr. ascension. While you all bask in your so called rest...there is work to do...and much of it.

Ill still be here for many many years...any of you that have trouble adapting and coping...when you fall back to Earth...there will be some of us who are actually getting it.

You really think that a world full of people seeking a path of self is going to lead to a nice place? How do you think we all got here??????? Again...we reap what we sow...it is the law of the Universe..and it works perfectly.

As another wise poster said on here....and I believe also a great scientist said....

ONLY A LIFE LIVED FOR OTHERS>>>IS A LIFE WORTHWHILE> IT IS THE PURPOSE FOR OUR EXISTENCE TO SERVE OTHERS.

So there...I throw pearls to the wayside...mabey there will be a humbled soul to see them and take care of them.

Regrets...I have none. Fear? What is that?

That stuff is cake...compared to the true work.

Path of self...or path of serving others....eventually all of you on the path of self...will have to look and see you must abandoned the path that is not.


Caring for another is not weak...and many here have posted out of love for another self...not because they DONT GET IT...or are ATTACHED TO BONDAGE.

So fast to throw words...so fast to call yourselves wise. Good luck on your journeys....my other selves.

LV

S+F for you brother, isn't it amazing how the light is flowing across ATS these days. There are so many people "waking up" on these boards. People who never believed in anything before are now enjoying the delights of spirituality.

What a great future we all have?

Originally posted by itchyonions
To be completely free is to no longer posess the ego that allows us to tell others that we are. We are all on our own unique journies, where many need the materialistic life they work hard for so as to learn who they are, and that is their path. Sometimes lessons are learnt, and sometimes they are not, to then forever be repeated.

Your new found awakening my friend would never have occurred if it wernt for the many that chose not to. What may seem as negative in this world, is really what has helped us all to evolve.

finally someone with a while view of things. God it took 13 pages but finally someone said it. Let's see if the rest of the flock notice.