Obama tells military: prepare for North Korea aggression

Lets see if Kim Jong Il matches his words with actions:

S.Korea installs speakers

SOUTH Korea on Tuesday started installing loudspeakers along its tense border with North Korea in preparation for broadcasts, ignoring threats by the communist state's army to fire at them.

The defence ministry said it resumed broadcasts on FM radio at 6pm on Monday, starting with a four-hour programme entitled 'Voice of Freedom'. It was being aired three times a day, a spokesman told AFP.

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Its really not a fair exchange of words unless you can tell us what country we should be respecting? Stupid American? You sure about that? Cause last I checked we are obviously fairly intelligent to have chosen the Bread Basket of the world as our Homeland? Not to point out the obvious but maybe you and your country should take a lesson in American Pride.....Then maybe we wouldn't be having to recue all you sheep from your evil human rights violating dictators? Just a thought? And maybe with a lesson in American Pride your country could become a superpower one day and fly financial aid,food,medicine and rescue workers around to the less fortunate countries? Maybe then you wouldn't have to worry about the stupid POLICE watchin over you? Just a thought? If you would like to throw uneducated statements around some more I'd be happy to educate them for ya! Peace.....

Here is some more information about the resumption of "propaganda by SK:

Seoul resumes psychological warfare with Pyongyang

South Korea's military resumed radio broadcasts airing Western music, news and comparisons between the South and North Korean political and economic situations late Monday, according to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The military also planned to launch propaganda leaflets Tuesday to inform North Koreans about the ship sinking.

In coming weeks, South Korea will also install dozens of propaganda loudspeakers and towering electronic billboards along the heavily armed land border between the two Koreas to send messages enticing communist soldiers to defect to the South.

The action, which ends a six-year suspension, is expected to draw an angry response from North Korea. The country's military already warned Monday it would fire at any propaganda facilities installed in the Demilitarized Zone.

Now that the South Koreans have resumed the anti NK propaganda, I assume that Kim Jong Il might spew out some verbal rhetoric before doing some missile tests or even a nuke test to send a message to SK and U.S. In case the SK doesn't lower the tension which I suspect they would, then Kim Jong Il might try to destroy the propaganda systems established along the border.

Hope the british dont get pulled into this as I am still on the reserve till november

Why do so many of you damn Americans want a god damn war?

Do you take pride in the murder of innocents?

If you're not busy shooting each other in your schools, parking lots and flying planes into your own towers - you're off bombing countries and demanding war.

Silly, backwards people.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Why do so many of you damn Americans want a god damn war?

Do you take pride in the murder of innocents?

If you're not busy shooting each other in your schools, parking lots and flying planes into your own towers - you're off bombing countries and demanding war.

Silly, backwards people.

Putting the entire population of a nation in to one group that shares exactly the same views; views which you obviously disagree with. Isn't that just a little backward in it's self?

[edit on 25/5/2010 by who-me?]

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That, my friend, is arrogant bigotry. I would recommend informing yourself before making such statements.

America isn't perfect by any means, but I promise you the U.K. isn't much different. Every place in the world has its murderers and thieves. Every place has its issues. Your country, nor any other, is an exception.

And, no, we don't want war. Why do you think the Iraq War is so unpopular? Unfortunately, there's little we can do when our officials behave like idiots. All we can do is vote, and that isn't saying much at this point. Our government has become distanced from the people it was meant to serve, but that's true for most major countries of the world.

It's narrow perceptions like the one you stated that divide people and cause hatred. There is good in every country, no matter how messed up its government may be. If you perceive a place as a bunch of warmongering apes however, you will blind yourself to that good.

There may come a time of crisis where these once powerful governments become victims of their own indulgence. With escalations such as Korea and the Global Economic Crisis, that time could happen very soon. In such a time, people would have to rely on one another to survive. I guarantee you that those who refuse to trust/work with entire groups of people simply because of their backgrounds would not fare well in such a time.

Breaking news on CNN. North Korea just made some new military threats against the South.

North threatens military action against South

North Korea accused the South Korean navy of trespassing into its waters Tuesday and threatened to retaliate with military action, the Yonhap news agency said.

Tensions are high between the two neighbors since an official South Korean report which blamed the Communist North of firing a torpedo at a navy ship, killing 46 sailors.

Yonhap news agency did not release any other details on the alleged threat.

edition.cnn.com...

From the Yonhap article...

N. Korea warns of military action, accuses S. Korea of violating waters

"This is a deliberate provocation aimed to spark off another military conflict in the West Sea of Korea and thus push to a war phase the present north-south relations," the statement said.

"Should the south side's intrusions into the territorial waters of our side continue, the (North) will put into force practical military measures to defend its waters," said the statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. "The south side will be held fully accountable for all the ensuing consequences."

english.yonhapnews.co.kr...

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Very much so. It's called giving you a tase of your own medicine.

Or reflection.

Those who know me on this forum, know i don't have many prejudices - but i like to keep the teeth grinding jerkery of certain Americans to a minimum.

I just don't like war mongers. Or keyboard Generals.

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If you don't like the warmongers, its best to stay away from humans entirely. The entire species is militant, like Klingons.

Live Long and Prosper

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
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If you don't like the warmongers, its best to stay away from humans entirely. The entire species is militant, like Klingons.

Live Long and Prosper

Nope that's untrue. Most intelligent people i know do NOT wish harm or war on anyone.

Yet - it seems from floating through a few pages on here, most (not all) Americans DO want another war.

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Where did you get the idea most humans are intelligent?

Out of the 6 billion plus on the planet, most of the species is illiterate and doesn't even have electricity or running water.

There are some Americans who want war, but I bet most Americans don't care. Most don't vote, don't keep up with the news, couldn't find North Korea on a map, and are more worried about texting on their phone about inane nonsense or who got kicked off Dancing With the Stars.

[edit on 25/5/10 by MikeboydUS]

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I certainly hope it doesn't.. the NK soldiers don't mess around.. it won't be like fighting militia men from Iraq who can't aim worth a damn..

The artillery barrage the circles Seoul alone is estimated to have the ability to kill thousands, or hundreds of thousands within the first few hours. These pieces of artillery are camo'd, buried in the rock, hidden in the forest. I would have to suspect that if there was a war coming, it would start by the US, with us bombing those sites. but again, I hope not, because many, many people could potentially die.

And it's probably no coincidence we are starting our official withdraw of troops from Iraq this summer as well ... pull em out of one theater, put em in another.

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What is the reason you hate all Americans and America? Your post says as much to me. You have to have a deep and horrid reason.

Originally posted by barkingdogamato
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What is the reason you hate all Americans and America? Your post says as much to me. You have to have a deep and horrid reason.

Could it be because if it wasn't for the American people. Your president wouldn't be able to fight wars that are based on lies.

To me it seams like the American people dont really give a damn on what bases they fight other nations people. Iraq is the best and clearest example of this.

The American population support their troops 100% If you do that than you also support the lies that they are fighting for as well. Because the troops are fighting wars based on lies. That means they sure dont give a damn who they have to fight. Its their job to fight who ever they are told to fight.

The saying that they are fighting for our freedom so that we dont have to fight them our selves. Is just propaganda talk to justify the actions they are doing, so that they can keep on doing it.

The propaganda language is used to grease the wheels of war. Because the propaganda sounds morally right. That is the whole point.






[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

Originally posted by barkingdogamato
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What is the reason you hate all Americans and America? Your post says as much to me. You have to have a deep and horrid reason.

Read the post a few posts above and then get back to me.

Yeah mr. lizard is right, I'm an American and it hurts to see people buy into this countries propaganda like this...You don't have to believe what these so-called leaders say but yet you do, and call it being a true american or a patriot but really all it is, is agreeing with the well played out lie.

Originally posted by bair1975
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Its really not a fair exchange of words unless you can tell us what country we should be respecting? Stupid American? You sure about that? Cause last I checked we are obviously fairly intelligent to have chosen the Bread Basket of the world as our Homeland?

And it was done in an intelligent way wasn't it:

Within four years of Columbus' arrival on Hispaniola, his men had killed or exported one-third of the original Indian population of 300,000. Within another 50 years, the Taino people had been made extinct [editor's note: the old assumption that the Taino became extinct is now open to serious question] - the first casualties of the holocaust of American Indians.

www.hartford-hwp.com...

Not to point out the obvious but maybe you and your country should take a lesson in American Pride.....Then maybe we wouldn't be having to recue all you sheep from your evil human rights violating dictators?

Again, an intelligent approach was taken here wasn't it?

According to Marc W. Herold's extensive database, Dossier on Civilian Victims of United States' Aerial Bombing, between 3,100 and 3,600 civilians were directly killed by U.S. Operation Enduring Freedom bombing and Special Forces attacks between October 7, 2001 and June 3, 2003. This estimate counts only "impact deaths" - deaths that occurred in the immediate aftermath of an explosion or shooting - and does not count deaths that occurred later as a result of injuries sustained, or deaths that occurred as an indirect consequence of the U.S. airstrikes and invasion.

en.wikipedia.org...

Just a thought? And maybe with a lesson in American Pride...

Ah yes, patriotism, pride...

Genuine patriotism is a benefit to any nation. Public spirit has a valid purpose--it gives a nation's people a common purpose and rallys them to support the government in times of crisis. Patriotism also has its dangers--it can stimulate virulent nationalism, prevent fruitful policy debates, and carelessly direct a nation into destruction, pain and sorrow. Politicians, government agencies and "special interests" take advantage of critical situations to advance their positions. Pernicious forces subvert genuine patriotism with slogans, simplifications and "calls to patriotism" that disguise faulty policies and mask tendencies that create crises. Freedoms are defended by limiting freedoms. Policies are finalized after limited discussion. Thoughtful expression is replaced by thoughtless nationalism.

www.alternativeinsight.com...

...your country could become a superpower one day and fly financial aid,food,medicine and rescue workers around to the less fortunate countries? Maybe then you wouldn't have to worry about the stupid POLICE watchin over you? Just a thought? If you would like to throw uneducated statements around some more I'd be happy to educate them for ya! Peace.....

Need I enter into the evils of being a superpower? Does it help you that your country is a superpower? Does it really help those less fortunate that your country is a superpower?

Your medicine doesn't seem to be reaching anywhere that doesn't aid positive publicity on behalf of your government.

Please sir, with all due respect, embrace the big picture.