Christians are about to be abducted.

First: I have plenty to "look forward to", both in this life, and afterward. It is fallacy to assume that because someone does not share your particular faith, they must believe in nothingness.

Second: Have the courage of your convictions to call your detractors out directly. I am a HUGE fan of your Jesus, but I don't care much for your "Christians". I'm sorry of that bothers you, but a lifetime of experience has shown me that there is far more to being a righteous human being than "picking a team" and rooting for them on Sunday (that's Football, by the way!).

Third: All judgement days are personal. Savior self. Those of us who do not share your particular belief system are frankly tired of hearing about your millennial disaster porn. While I would fight to the death to defend your right to run around preaching "rapture", the "second coming" and the "book of revelations", you need to understand that I *also* have rights which are inalienable: For example -- I get to believe you are completely full of it (and yourselves).

Lastly: I am of the "idea" that your "God" would have served it's' own purpose far better by remaining behind the bushes in the garden of Eden. Frankly -- every sorrow in creation arose from the FIRST original sin: the pride and arrogance of a being who supposedly created the entire universe, for the sole purpose of demanding worship from it's creation.

It's not too late.

You can turn it all around.

You can use the faith of the mustard seed, and move mountains, here and now.

Turn away from any childish fantasies that you may have about the end of the world, and the return of your king. There is no Neo. You are "the one". We are all "the one". Love your neighbor even MORE than you love yourself, and the true Kingdom will finally come.

Or -- keep rooting for whatever it is you are rooting for, and we will always have the hell on earth we deserve, because we are too stupid to learn the real lessons of your book.

reply to post by 0zzymand0s


Do you even understand you are trusting and following New Age doctrines of demons? But there is nothing "new" about it, it's the same lie satan told Eve in the garden.

"You can be like the gods.."

No you can't, there is only ONE creator, all of us, angels included, are creatures. "Religion" cannot save your soul, it only leads to either pride or depression. You/we have nothing whatsoever to offer God, His grace is unmerited and simply a free gift through Jesus's death. Being good will keep you out of jail, and give you a few votes perhaps for the Nobel Peace prize, but you need the shed blood of Jesus Christ to keep you from the Hell we all deserve.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

This struck me as a very meaningful "coincidence" that a few hours after posting on this thread I saw a brand new trailer for an apocalyptic "rapture" scenario type movie. There's actually two new movies coming out that depict a rapture scenario. They both look like they might be pretty good flicks.

here they are:

gordonandthewhale.com...-83153

trailers.apple.com...

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."

Red herring, that has ABSOLUTELY nothing whatsoever to do with what I previously stated. You've taken allegorical speech of the Lord Jesus Christ, (mountains = kingdoms), and used it self-righteously to justify the doctrine of demons. God forbid.

*WARNING*

Originally posted by Leemur
This struck me as a very meaningful "coincidence"..

Want to hear something even more revealing? There is no way whatsoever to translate the word "coincidence" into the ancient Hebrew language.

Nothing is a "coincidence".

reply to post by Loken68


I think your observations and research are quite good.

I think your thought processes are quite fitting.

I think you are likely quite right.

Most people--particularly hereon--are not likely to agree with you for a list of biased reasons.

Most people are not likely to believe you until after the fact . . . and most, probably not even then.

Nevertheless, God and one are a majority.

God be with you and yours and with all who seek and Love HIM.

I guess if you're Catholic you don't get a ticket...
I wish I was Christian. I want to ride in a UFO. :/

reply to post by ohsnaptruth


Ehhhh, "religion", *pukes*.

There are only two people God sees on the Earth..

the REPENTANT sinner and the UNREPENTANT sinner.

Don't Watch Me

reply to post by NOTurTypical


As we are coming from two completely separate and incompatible world views, I find that we have no common ground to speak from. I am not a Jew, or a Christian, so I was not born in original sin. Still, I feel like your heart is in the right place, so I wish you well, and hope you find peace; in this life or the next.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

As we are coming from two completely separate and incompatible world views, I find that we have no common ground to speak from. I am not a Jew, or a Christian, so I was not born in original sin. Still, I feel like your heart is in the right place, so I wish you well, and hope you find peace; in this life or the next.

I'm declaring to you what the Word of the Living God says about you and the rest of us. You "trump" this with your arbitrary opinion? Secondly, for the sake of argument let's assume you were never born into the world with original sin okay. Have you since birth ever used the name of God for a curse word, or in random conversation that had nothing to do with Him? Have you ever lied? Have you ever wanted something someone else had? Have you ever stolen? Have you ever failed to give to someone in need anytime they asked? Have you ever failed to do what mommy or daddy told you to do?

reply to post by NOTurTypical


I'm not "trumping" anything.

You have so much anger about your religious beliefs that you make blanket assertions as to their validity in ways that are combative and off putting. Worse yet -- you seem to have no joy, and that makes me very sad for you. There are stories of Jesus that are so beautiful and so filled with joy and life, and I hope that you come to see them in that light, before your time here is done.

Be well, brave warrior.

reply to post by 0zzymand0s


Right on, Ozzy! Couldn't have said it better myself. I too would fight for the right of someone to preach their version of the "gospel," but I have the right also to say what I feel about it. I too have come to be where you are, Ozzy, I know what I am, and what will happen when I leave this meatsuit, and my new world is already created, waiting for me. I have been there, astrally, and seen with my own eyes what awaits, and it is a good thing, not a negative as religion would have me think. Religious people have "Beliefs," these are set in stone and can never be changed, if you don't believe that, try arguing any bible story with a Christian. I have Ideas. Ideas can, and do change, they take in, and they delete, but Ideas maintain a mindset that that will sorely be needed in the days to come. Beliefs, I am sad to say, will fall by the wayside, along with the fake Godmen and false end times scenarios you all are always preaching to us poor sinners.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by 0zzymand0s

 

Do you even understand you are trusting and following New Age doctrines of demons? But there is nothing "new" about it, it's the same lie satan told Eve in the garden.

"You can be like the gods.."

No you can't, there is only ONE creator, all of us, angels included, are creatures. "Religion" cannot save your soul, it only leads to either pride or depression. You/we have nothing whatsoever to offer God, His grace is unmerited and simply a free gift through Jesus's death. Being good will keep you out of jail, and give you a few votes perhaps for the Nobel Peace prize, but you need the shed blood of Jesus Christ to keep you from the Hell we all deserve.

Hi. Do you think that esoteric philosophy can be in accord with the Bible? I do.

Do you think that Biblical esoterica can be legitimate in the eyes of God, and yet be mistaken for 'New Age doctrines of demons' by exoteric Christians? I do.

I am an esoteric Christian mystic who is mistaken for a New-Ager by exoteric Christian non-mystics. I have a hard time explaining all this to many of my fellow Christians, because they are so paranoid about esoterica and demons that they harden their hearts against me and refuse to understand. It causes me grief.

"The Christian of the future will be a mystic or he will not exist at all." -Karl Rahner

[edit on 19-8-2010 by Student X]

reply to post by autowrench


Thanks, Auto! I'm not trying to beat anyone here, but I would be lying if I didn't point out that any "ideas" about god, the nature of the universe, or spirituality could use a lot more love and joy, and a lot less anger and demons, if that makes any sense.

reply to post by Loken68


God Lord I hope so. America will be a much nicer place without all you evangelicals. Now us fallen Catholics, everyday Methodists, old school Anglicans, moderate Muslims, non-Orthodox Jews and athiests can live in harmony.

The world can do without you witch burners.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by ohsnaptruth

 

Ehhhh, "religion", *pukes*.

There are only two people God sees on the Earth..

the REPENTANT sinner and the UNREPENTANT sinner.

Don't Watch Me


Ehhhh, a cultist (pukes). You fall into that sick class of human who is so arrogant in his belief in "truth" that you feel above calling yourself religious. The fact for all the world to see is that you are a religious zealot, a real danger to the world around you as you fantasize about your glorious End of Days and vote for those who provoke war towards that end. If there is a hell, your kind is accorded a special place there.

this should really be in the predictions forum,.
I am sure you can understand why

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by NOTurTypical

 

I'm not "trumping" anything.

You have so much anger about your religious beliefs that you make blanket assertions as to their validity in ways that are combative and off putting. Worse yet -- you seem to have no joy, and that makes me very sad for you. There are stories of Jesus that are so beautiful and so filled with joy and life, and I hope that you come to see them in that light, before your time here is done.

Be well, brave warrior.

Wait, what "religious beliefs" are you referring to? Do you notice the title of the link in my signature? "Do you HATE religion as much as I do?"

HEY!!! We finally have common ground! "Religion" is a disgusting human perversion! Secondly, why would you assume I have no joy? Joy comes from the Lord Jesus Christ, I say I had no joy whatsoever before I knew Him. My indignation is against lies and doctrines of demons (Religion).

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by 0zzymand0s

 

Right on, Ozzy! Couldn't have said it better myself. I too would fight for the right of someone to preach their version of the "gospel," but I have the right also to say what I feel about it. I too have come to be where you are, Ozzy, I know what I am, and what will happen when I leave this meatsuit, and my new world is already created, waiting for me. I have been there, astrally, and seen with my own eyes what awaits, and it is a good thing, not a negative as religion would have me think. Religious people have "Beliefs," these are set in stone and can never be changed, if you don't believe that, try arguing any bible story with a Christian. I have Ideas. Ideas can, and do change, they take in, and they delete, but Ideas maintain a mindset that that will sorely be needed in the days to come. Beliefs, I am sad to say, will fall by the wayside, along with the fake Godmen and false end times scenarios you all are always preaching to us poor sinners.

I'd say to that: stop arguing with religious people who think they are Christians. I'm ALSO a poor sinner, you are mistaking me for a religious person who would say "You're bad, be good like me!"