Investigators: Obama using Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number!!

Originally posted by Libertygal

BUt the SSN from Connecticut and the Selective Service the president Obama uses are a match.

Could you provide a citation? I'm sure it's in here somewhere but, if you have it handy I would appreciate it. Thanks. From what I've been reading no one has verified it is indeed the President's yet. Conjecture and speculation aside.

ETA that is a very excellent find, btw, thank you for posting that.

No problem, It's mentioned in several places (e.g., here and here) along with possible explanations.

ETA again, the fact still remains, his father returned to Kenya while Obama was a small child, a toddler. So he couldn't have visited him in his high school years. He wasn't there. He may even have been dead, not sure what year Sr. died.

According to his Wikipedia page:

He passed away on Nov. 24th, 1982. Moved back to Kenya in '65. Visited his son, President Obama, in '71. Hope that helps.

Regards.



[edit on Fri May 14 2010 by Rren]

Originally posted by Rren
I believe I have found the connection: Ancestry of Barack Obama:

1. Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas. His parents met while both were attending the East-West Center of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student. When Barack Obama was two years old, his parents divorced and his father moved to Connecticut to continue his education before returning to Kenya.

Either way it is strange that these professional investigators couldn't find any Connecticut connection what-so-ever when it was very easy to find,... even for a regular schmuch such as myself.

Good find!

Yes, we have to ask how professional investigators could have missed that, or ignored it if they found it!

reply to post by K J Gunderson


Simple.

I believe that Obama has a possible CIA connection and I am following a trail. Have been for awhile. Nothing new.

If Obama were involved (or his mother which I believe is where it started) it would explain how or why he obtained a SS# from CT. It would also explain why he would be issued a number of social security numbers. One possibly being a repeat number which is illegal, but not for the CIA.

Proving there is a CIA link would explain a number of "inconsistencies" or "oddities" surrounding his background.

Going to a private school while his mother was on food stamps and she was obtaining a PhD....world extensive travel with little to no money.....visiting Pakistan at a time when, although allowed, US/Pakistan relations were not friendly....obtaining Indonesian citizenship and still retaining US citizenship....complete inability to access records....etc.

I believe people have oddities in their backgrounds. I believe a few can be chalked up to coincidence, happenstance, or error. I believe in coincidences and oddities, not just quite so many. Don't get me wrong -- much of what has been written regarding Obama is not true. But some of it, there are still questions that may not amount to a "crime" or his "ineligibility" to be President, but they are things that I believe the American people have a right to ask and/or know. And no, this does not mean everything in his life.

Just as an FYI even though it is off-topic, I had been participating in Crop Circle threads until I was labelled an "alien makes them" believer simply for participating. Here, I am automatically a birther. I stopped participating in those threads, and it seems I will no longer participate in these either.

Should anyone care? Nope. But it begs the question -- how many other people have been chased away from a discussion simply because, once labelled, there is no discussion. It becomes an automatic attack from the "opposing side". You can no longer state something without it implying or trying to prove the "big picture". Sometimes, just proving the little things along the way, leads to big discoveries.

To me, questioning is the only path to truth in everything.

Originally posted by Rren
Originally posted by Libertygal

BUt the SSN from Connecticut and the Selective Service the president Obama uses are a match.

Could you provide a citation? I'm sure it's in here somewhere but, if you have it handy I would appreciate it. Thanks. From what I've been reading no one has verified it is indeed the President's yet. Conjecture and speculation aside.

Alright.

obfelony.webs.com...

I don't want to hear any comments about the website name ok? I just linked to it because it has the images you are asking for. That's the only reason.

On this link you will see the Selective Service application. The SSN is redacted. However, below the first images, you will see a screenshot of the Selective Service site return.

Here is another link with an investigation done by Debbie Schlussel which shows an image of the document received via the FOIA along with an image of a scan of the envelope.

link

ETA again, the fact still remains, his father returned to Kenya while Obama was a small child, a toddler. So he couldn't have visited him in his high school years. He wasn't there. He may even have been dead, not sure what year Sr. died.

According to his Wikipedia page:

He passed away on Nov. 24th, 1982. Moved back to Kenya in '65. Visited his son, President Obama, in '71. Hope that helps.

Yeah so he would not have been in Connecticut in 1976, which is when the card was issued, IIRC.


edit for broken brackets, whats new lol

[edit on 14-5-2010 by Libertygal]

reply to post by Libertygal


You are way stretching on that...because he was called "Barry" when he was little...he has to list that as an alias??? BS.


I have been known by many different versions of my given name...I've been known by some people by nicknames...some people only know me as a nickname.

I would never list them as a legal alias.


Keep dreaming...you are really reaching on this issue to try to pin a crime on Obama...and it is pretty funny. That is why people laugh at birthers....because you have no logical arguments.

reply to post by lpowell0627


It has happened to me too. I quit logging in for about 6 months because of things like that.

People are so apt to toss labels as insults and it really used to bother me. It still does sometimes, but I have found that if I put people on ignore that choose to attack the poster and not provide any substance to the topic, it makes it much more peaceful.

And more worthwhile to participate.

Try not to let it get to you, but I can understand 100% why it does.

Interest in any topic should not constitute a label being put on anyone. It is just what people do when they have nothing to rebut with.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


That's your opinion, and you are welcome to it!

However, your opinion does not negate the fact he went by an assumed name if he did not legally change his name to Barry Soetoro when he was adopted.

If the adoption did legally change his name, he would had to have changed it legally back to Barack Obama when he came of age.

Failure to mention the use of an assumed name on a legal document asking if you were ever known by any other name is illegal.

Sorry that offends your world view, but you certainly have the right to be offended.

You ask a question, then rebuff with a personal attack, "you birthers" crap.

That is pretty sad, and shows you have absolutely nothing to add but continue to post insults to look cool.

reply to post by Libertygal

BUt the SSN from Connecticut and the Selective Service the president Obama uses are a match.

Provide proof besides a blog saying they have verified it. The selective service search won't work for Obama because it is overloaded...has been for some time. There is no way to verify it...if you do...give screen shots.

You still haven't given proof that you found Obama on the Social Security Death Index like you claimed you did. Why not?

The SSN was allegedly issued in 1976 is it?

I don't believe there is proof of that either...only speculation based on when he may have gotten his first job or needed it for College.


Please just admit that you are only using SPECULATION and do not have one shred of proof that anything illegal is going on.


ETA: STOP POSTING LINKS TO UNSAFE SITES

[edit on 14-5-2010 by OutKast Searcher]

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


FFS I am done with you.

The image is on the link, you know the SS site is overloaded. Apparently that many people care about researching it for themselves to go and look it up.

I don't CARE what you think or have to say anymore. You cannot have a conversation without childish insults, and seriously, you aren't worth the time or effort to provide proof to things that have been posted long ago.

NONE of this is NEWS. The information is over two years old. If you want answers go find them yourself. You won't because you don't want to.

And people wonder why they get put on ignore.

So the same links I posted days ago are now unsafe. Faker.



[edit on 14-5-2010 by Libertygal]

Originally posted by Libertygal
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

FFS I am done with you.

The image is on the link, you know the SS site is overloaded. Apparently that many people care about researching it for themselves to go and look it up.

So you conspiracy hunters have no suspicion whatsoever about the fact that this site is STILL too overloaded to actually do this search?

reply to post by Libertygal

FFS I am done with you.

The image is on the link, you know the SS site is overloaded. Apparently that many people care about researching it for themselves to go and look it up.

And the image on the website only shows the last 4 digits of the SSN on the selective service return. We currently do not have any proof that person entered in the connecticut SSN.

And if they did have proof SO WHAT??? It isn't illegal to get your SS card with a different mailing address than your own...and as Kinda Kurious pointed out before...Hawaii and Connecticut zipcodes are the same except for the leading 9 or 0...so could of very well just been a mistake. WHO KNOWS....and it doesn't matter because it is not ILLEGAL.

I don't CARE what you think or have to say anymore. You cannot have a conversation without childish insults, and seriously, you aren't worth the time or effort to provide proof to things that have been posted long ago.

Where did I insult you?

NONE of this is NEWS. The information is over two years old. If you want answers go find them yourself. You won't because you don't want to.

I won't because I'm not making the claim and there is no proof out there to find. YOU are making these claims...back them up. If this is old news and proof is all over the place...then it should be easy for you.

And people wonder why they get put on ignore.

I don't...I know you will ignore me because I will ask you for proof...and you can't provide that. So you will ignore me so you can live in your fantasy world without people questioning you.

So the same links I posted days ago are now unsafe. Faker.

I'm going off of Kinda Kurious's posts...I'm not gong to go check them and possibile get a virus. I trust KK 1000% more than I do you.

reply to post by Libertygal


Stay focused on the more sane ones. Don't mess with trouble makers. They are just trying to knock you off balance.

Girl, there ain't nobody on these threads yet that can out do you. I think you can see by the stars-people agree.

I wish I could give you some freaking flags!!!!

Now, go get 'em. )

[edit on 5/14/2010 by anon72]

reply to post by Libertygal


Edit due to 2nd double post. Error.


Continue on

[edit on 5/14/2010 by anon72]

reply to post by Libertygal


She apparently has me on Ignore because I have flagged her links as suspect twice now in this very thread. That is too bad if her computer starts acting wacky.

Perhaps a reason why Ignoring someone simply because you don't agree with their views isn't prudent. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water....La la la. < fingers in ears >

I had called that poster out in a recent Obama Scandal thread, her source? The National Enquirer.

As a follow up, I just spent the last hour or so doing Norton Virus scans, Spybot, Ad Aware etc. I had gotten a browser hijack re-direct virus despite my AVS. I'm done with the Orly Taitz BS site. My Alien MoFo is back and humming. ( I've got the red neon.)
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[edit on 14-5-2010 by kinda kurious]

reply to post by Libertygal


Here is a straight forward post for you...no "insults"

You have made a lot of claims...I would like to see proof of the following.

1) Verifiable proof that the SSN you say is Obama's is actually Obama's.

2) Verifiable proof that you found Obama on the Social Security Death Index as you claim in This Post

3) Verifiable proof Obama used the name "Barry Soetoro" and that it would legally be defined as an alias.

4) Show proof that Obama was assigned his SSN in 1976 as you keep claiming.

5) Proof of the affadavit Obama signed saying he has no aliases ( I looked for this...didn't find it...figured you must have a link to this document since you say he signed it).

Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by Libertygal

 

Stay focused on the more sane ones. Don't mess with trouble makers. They are just trying to knock you off balance.

Girl, there ain't nobody on these threads yet that can out do you. I think you can see by the stars-people agree.

I wish I could give you some freaking flags!!!!

Now, go get 'em.

)

[edit on 5/14/2010 by anon72]

Anon...what has she done besides put for speculation as proof??? And link to websites with viruses?

And then she ignores anyone that challenges her? That doesn't seem like someone to look up to.

All I am doing is asking for proof for her wild speculative claims she is making...how is that not sane???

Have you seen her give any proof besides blogs???

The problem here is that what passes as proof to you guys is very different than what passes as proof for people who are looking at this logically...not looking at it as a witch hunt.

Originally posted by kinda kurious
reply to post by Libertygal

 

She apparently has me on Ignore because I have flagged her links as suspect twice now in this very thread. That is too bad if her computer starts acting wacky.

Perhaps a reason why Ignoring someone simply because you don't agree with their views isn't prudent. Oh well, you can lead a horse to water....La la la. < fingers in ears >

I had called that poster out in a recent Obama Scandal thread, her source? The National Enquirer.

As a follow up, I just spent the last hour or so doing Norton Virus scans, Spybot, Ad Aware etc. I had gotten a browser hijack re-direct virus despite my AVS. I'm done with the Orly Taitz BS site.

[edit on 14-5-2010 by kinda kurious]

What's your point with this post KK? Trying to pump yourself up a little? Impress someone other than yourself? Whatever makes you feel better about yourself I suppose. Love yourself much??

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


OutKast my man. You are wasting your time. She's done run oft.

Echo........echo......echo.....echo.

Replace the word Ginger with Birther:
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Originally posted by kinda kurious
reply to post by jibeho

 

Dude, you were caught RED-HANDED stealing quotes from news websites and posting them on ATS as your own in this very thread and you point fingers at muah?

Give me a freakin break. Hilarious.

[edit on 14-5-2010 by kinda kurious]

ONE quote from one source that I dropped into a post and forgot to frame when I came back to my computer and now it becomes multiple quotes from multiple websites. I see how your mind works and stretches the facts. It is a knee jerk reaction for you..

Inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity. Sound familiar?