please help me help my mom......

Rather than speak as if your mother has already met her demise and offer
sympathies. The way she will beat this at her age isn't through kemo.
Kemo will wipe out her imune system. You need a juicer and she needs to drink 12 to 13 glasses of carrot juice everyday. You will see her skin turn orange. This will save her life. Kemo will be the end of her. That's as plain as I can say it. This isn't medical advice it's nutritional advice. Juicer



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Most EVERYTHING listed above sounds great and is what I've read as well.. The pH stuff is VASTLY important...

I'm sorry to hear about your mom.. I definitely sympathize because my mother died last April of cancer ... She was only 49... That being said, I wish i knew then what I know now. When she first got diagnosed, we started getting in to alternative meds and simply getting her on superfoods (goji juice, vitamins etc..) made an immediate difference in how she felt ... However, as the days went on she convinced herself that it wasn't working and that caused an immediate downturn and magically it began to spread...

That being said, i'm a firm believer in the idea that your environment and mindset does indeed affect cancer... I recommend going to google videos or youtube and looking on a doctor named Dr. Bruce Lipton PhD. He is one of the worlds LEADING cellular guys and puts this philosophy in to amazing perspective. After watching it, you will definitely feel the need to go and improve your mothers mindset and outlook!

Maybe all of this stuff together will help her out!!

Perhaps you could contact the A.R.E. www.edgarcayce.org
They have a library of the Edgar Cayce readings and a directory of recomended practitioners, also they have a clinic although I do not know what the cost would be if any. The web site has lots of information, including both medical and spiritual healing, if you get nothing from the site medically, the spiritual aspect of the site may help you to cope through your ordeal!
Elsewhere I read that cancer is unable to live in an oxygen rich environment, therefore they recomend Oxygen therapy as a treatment. I don't know if this is quackery. I did read that it had a much better success rate than chemotherapy.
I would say that cannabis would be a good addition to your mothers med routine, although I would suggest that you discuss it with a doctor. Just in case. Mostly though, I wish you well, try to keep a positive outlook and an open mind. It will help you to stay strong.
Peace.

Sorry to hear about your Mun, cancer is a bastard of a thing

Dr John Holt has had amazing results with his 434Mhz frequency treatment. I beieve there is even a department @ John Hopkins medical centre in the US doing it

Dr John Holt 434Mhz Therapy

Well, there have been studies done on garlic/onions and their anti-cancer effects. I don't have a link for this, because somebody told me this a long time ago, but this man who was diagnosed with cancer decided to eat garlic for 3 months and it eventually cured his cancer.
I mean, for three months, you'll smell like garlic, but it will cure your cancer!!

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My sympathies to your Mom and I can imagine the stress you must be going through.

Chemo has a dismal record in treating cancers except specific types. Less than 6% success rate and that is being overly generous.

Read the report here by 3 oncologists:
www.icnr.com...

Do a google search on "Effectiveness of AHCC"
Since 1986, 29 published scientific studies have shown that a natural compound called ImmPower-AHCC, made from a hybrid of mushrooms used in traditional Japanese medicine, stimulates Natural Killer cell function by hundreds of times and provides significant and impressive benefits for patients with cancer.

There are ample evidence of its effectiveness to give it some serious thoughts.

Here's also something about Papaya Leaves Cancer Cure -An Australian Aborigine Remedy.
www.scribd.com...

Also a recent news that confirms it efficacy.
news.smh.com.au...

I hope this helps you and your mom.

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My father was diagnosed with bladder cancer about four years ago and it was bad. The doctors at M.D. Anderson hospital had a plan to shrink the cancer with kemo so that they could surgically remove his bladder and either attempt to make a new bladder out of intestinal material or fit him with something similar to a colostomy bag. Either way the long term prognosis was not good and he was told that the vast majority of people with this stage of bladder cancer did not survive more than 2 or 3 years.

While undergoing kemo therapy and against the doctors wishes, my father also started taking a herbal product called "Gravison" which is derived from the bark of a tree in the Amazon rain forest. He also detoxed his body with a product called "MMS" or Miracle Mineral Supplement which is a type of water purifier that kills cancer cells. Both of these products are available at numerous sites online.

To make a long story short, when my father completed the kemo therapy, the doctors could no longer see the cancer. My father elected not to have the surgery and he is cancer free today. Even though they cannot prescribe Gravison to their patients, (due to the fact that big pharma is not allowed to patent herbs) the doctors took notice of the miraculous disappearance of the cancer. They stated that they have never experienced these results from kemo therapy alone on this particular type of cancer, which is usually considered to be terminal.

My father is 75 years old and he still works harder than I do at 53. I am not exaggerating when I say that he is tougher that an old leather boot. I would definitely recommend these products to anyone facing cancer of any kind.

Tell your mom that she has absolutely nothing to lose by trying alternative medicines when it comes to treating cancer.

Good luck and may the healing spirit of god be with you and your family.

wow, rereading through this thread has literally brought tears to my eyes.
thank you, there's alot i need to reread, take notes, research etc.....
i'll be back in a bit to be a bit more specific with certain posts.
thank you all though, somehow knowing that i, and especially mom, is not alone makes a huge difference.
thank you for taking the time in replying and posting links for me to follow.
i do appreciate it.

Remind her to keep a positive attitude. I've had many relatives suffer from cancer and those that survived always had a positive outlook on it. (don't mean to be morbid)

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First, your mom, you, and family are in my thoughts and prayers. I have no idea if this will help. But I have experienced serious illness on both sides of the divide. My self and several family members and close friends.

I would be very carefull using any herbal products. Our knowledge of their activity is for the most part anecdotal. Which is a polite way to say we have no idea what affect they have on the body as a whole, or any organ system in paticular. If you introduce a herbal product while using a chemotheraputic agent, there is no way to tell what the effect will be. Many herbal agents act like drugs. To a less extent, so do some foods. Chemo can affect a whole host of organs and systems. My point is the less complex the "cocktail" of chemicals your mom gets, it's easier to control the effects, and evaluate her reaction to therapy. And herbs are not regulated like pharmaceticals. There is no specified dose, based on the kind of study we do with pharmaceticals. Quality control checks don't look for uniform potency between lots. They test sporaticly for contamination. And taken to the extreme, just because it's natural and wasn't created in a lab, doesn't mean it's good for you. Lead, mercury, and arsinic, etc, are all natural.

I appoligize if this is all old news. As far as organic food is concerned, at least for me, thats all I eat. But for a lot of people it's expensive. And good luck finding it in a low income neighborhood. For nonorganic food, even though companies design additives we can't detect, one might be allergic to it. I believe a lot of people running around with an endless running nose, no energy, even some depression may be the result of a low grade allergic response. Major grade and you stop breathing. And for nonorganics, I'm talking about stuff like red dye no.4, sodium nitrate for cold cuts, traces of pesticide, herbacide, the list seems end less. In theory the assumption is below a certain thresh hold a chemical is not recognized by the body, hence it has no effect. You can say that for the human race only as a group. If it applied across the board to us as individuals, no one on Earth would be allergic to anything. The rule I usually follow is the longer the ingrediants label, the less likely I will buy it.
As I mentioned above, I have personal experience with a disease. My first reaction to being told I had ALS was fear and anger. Anyone who's seen Steven Hawking under stands the fear part. I'm lucky, there has been no progression in several years. But it was my problem. And I can haddle problems that are mine alone. Yet, I have had and have family and friends with a host of major problems. My instict is to fix thing's. Thats why I use the name arbiture (spelled my way) I'm pretty good at getting people to stop talking to other people, and getting them to talk with other people. But I can't use that approach with anouther one's illness. We have this unfocused dread We have to do something, anything. Usually, we think we can do nothing. But thats not really true. Having been on "both sides" of illness, I know people who are ill, feel at a deep level another love one's fear and uncertainty. And if your the one who's sick, what do you feel? Embarresed. Not to mention the moment you found out, was liked you were just beamed to an uncharted planet A lot of ill people don't want contact with family. I assure you it's not because of you, but how they see themselves. How the ill person responds to family members depends on the family dynamic, or how it's structured and operates. If a family operates like a monastic order, then every thing is supposed to be in control, and be perfect. Illness isn't covered in the manual, so people with draw. Not as much from strangers, but particuarily from family members. With a family dynamic more akin to Disney Land, this didn't apply in my case

The first reason I went organic was based more on value's or spiritual reasons and was not related to my health. I am disgusted by how factory farms treat animals. I was not going to support an industry who's very nature IMO is barbaric. The guilt would not help my self image. (I'm a recovering Catholic) Later, I wanted to avoid hormones in milk and eggs. For me as food goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Organic food won't turn you back into a teenager. But it tastes great, and the knowledge of how it was produced may give you that "good deed" feeling, and thats theraputic. I have used hypnosis myself as an expressway to deep meditation. But IMO the most important thing you can do for your mom is for you to do some thing for your self. Yes, I know any thing you do for yourself will make you feel guilty. But you can't help some one who's drowning if you don't know how to swim. I know that's trite, but as a concept it's true. Guided imagery works well for some, but it really (at least appears to) depend on how well the personalities of the instructor and student mesh. The last point I want to make is when some one you love is ill (and that should include you), we can experience whats called the "fun house effect". Your world is not the same, your confused, unguided, and of course frightened. One big problem friends and family of people with an illness have is they often avoid the paitent because they don't want to bother them. Don't do that. Make an effort to visit them, listen to them. Listen to what they mean. Don't just hear what they say. Keep them connected to everything they identify with themselves. If they see they have the same effect on the world as before, they know their still in charge of their life. Nothing is as powerfull when faced with any challenge, as you knowing who you are.

Originally posted by ItsAgentScully
Remind her to keep a positive attitude. I've had many relatives suffer from cancer and those that survived always had a positive outlook on it. (don't mean to be morbid)

it's true though, i believe in our own healing power.
if the mind is enlightened enough, not sure that's really the right term, and we learn to use our entire brain, i believe we have the capability to heal ourselves without and outside influence.

intelegen.com...
Ideally Spotted Rat Fish Oil but I think a company called BLUE ICE do the Skate Fish Liver Oil but must stress its rumoured to prelong life and help to prevent cancer. If the report above is to be believed its worth a try.
Also Tomatoes and Broccoli together.
ezinearticles.com...
Something I tend to overload on myself as they are full of other good nutrients too. Hope this helps, but always take the advice of your doctor first and use these suggestions alongside her current treatment. We are merely people suggesting help to assist we're not qualified consultants.

Originally posted by Truth1000
I am a doctor and would question the use of chemo if they don't know they primary source of the cancer, or know even the cell type. Different types of cancers can vary widely in which chemo agents to use. It seems very odd they would be using chemotherapy without having some answers to these questions first.

If you don't mind me asking, was it found on CT or MRI? Did they use contrast during the study. Do all of the lesions appear homogenous, meaning that they all appear to have come from the same source, or did they arise individually? Have they done a PET scan to see if there are other areas of involvement? Are there abnormal liver function tests or renal function tests, because they could significantly affect which chemo agents to use?


You need to ask ALL of these questions before someone simply starts "chemo" if they don't know what they are treating to begin with!

I am a nurse, I agree totally with what your are saying. Without the knowing the source, the cell type and stage she is at, I too would question the use of chemo without knowing these things.

Originally posted by rubbertramp
i've done a search of this site, and apologize for asking members to repeat info.
my mom has been diagnosed with cancer. she is 74 and they found a tumor on a kidney, another in her gall bladder, and a shade on her liver.
they want to do biopsies but she doesn't want to go through it.
next week she begins kemo.
so far me and my sisters have convinced her to switch completely to organics.
i've sent her a bottle of ph drops and info about lowering her acidic levels. have only heard positive things about this.
what else can we do?
herbal remedies, things to help her cope with the effects of kemo etc?
due to my lack of any medical background, laymans term are appreciated.
thanx in advance.

First and foremost, be very proactive in her care, at the hospital and at home. If you are not familiar with something, ask about it. Don't stop until you get the right answer. Have them explain what they are doing and the reasoning behind it. Whenever she has blood work done or diagnostic testing done, request a copy of the results. Results from blood work have a normal range that the mds will look at, if she is in the "normal" range they will tell it has come back fine. But you need to know whether she is at low end of normal, high end of normal or right in the middle. Knowing these numbers will help you, especially when it comes to her immune system, wbc's, neutrophils, basophils, any type of immune system cell. Her own immune is going to be the biggest and best weapon she has against fighting this. If you are not familiar with the normal ranges of these, you can google it. Know that she has the right to refuse anything, if she does not want something done, for any reason, she can say no.

If you do go with herbals, make sure you are familiar with any reaction you should look for, and if will interact with the medicines that the md's are giving her. Inform her md of the herbals that you are giving her at home also.

The chemo is going to wipe out her system, so you need boost her own healthy cells up. I suggest the liquid form of vitamins and minerals, it has a faster absorption rate. Plenty of Vitamin C daily, that will boost her immune system. Try giving her more frequent small meals through out the day, instead 2 to 3 large ones. That will conserve her energy and help her get the carbs that she needs. She might not look at eating like its a chore and that will not upset her stomach as bad. If she can't eat, supplement drinks such as Ensure and Boost are things you can give her so she is still getting the nutrients that she needs.

Do your own research, expand your knowledge of what she is going through. Familiarize yourself with medical field so to speak. The information that they will tell you will be less stressful if you have some knowledge of what they are telling you. That will help you be able to help her.

Fight it as a family, a whole unit. It's not just her that has the cancer, it is all of you. She will be able to sense her surroundings, whether they are negative or positive. That can effect her healing a great deal. Her mind needs to stay clean, and in a positive, healing mode. She needs to believe that she has the will and strength to beat this.

I hope this helps!

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[edit on 13-5-2010 by Organic97]

I know of several herbs that can help.
CoQ-10, massive amounts of Vit.C (read about Linus Pauling's research.)
If I had cancer, I would use a frequency generator. I suggest you read a book called the cancer cure that worked. Written by Barry Lynes with John Crane. I know of several people that have used the frequency technology and herbal supplements, really any that have been studied and show a response to reducing the growth or reduction of cancer cells. I use frequency technology myself and it works for me, ( it cured my migraines.)
Good luck, I hope you can overcome this devistating disease.

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why drink carrot juice???

how will that save her life??

people, in general, know anecdotal stories of how things go with cancer. The medical community deals with it MILLIONS of times every year. I personally have had many, many patients with cancer. We keep detailed records and do tremendous amounts of research on aspects of cancer most people cannot even begin to understand.

If we know what type of cancer we are dealing with, where all it has spread, what body functions have been affected by the cancer, how the immune system is functioning, and so forth, we can have a pretty good idea of how effective our treatment can be.

With that said, there is still much to learn. There is a tremendous amount of evidence as to how greatly our diet affects cancer, and the body's functions in general. Proper nutrition is MANDATORY while trying to fight cancer. Many types of fruits and vegetables have favorable effects on the total body function, and it takes the whole body to fight cancer.

The mind controls so much of what happens in the body that many times medical studies have gotten screwed up when the placebo arm, meaning the people who think they are getting a medicine when they really aren't, can have such a favorable outcome that it makes it hard to prove the medicine does better than placebo. That isn't talked about much, but it is true.

There are many cancer centers now that combine medical treatment, religious/psychotherapy/meditation, nutrition, and even herbal remedies into a total patient concept in treating cancers. On many occasions, when tradition treatment doesn't look too favorable, I have referred patients to such centers, and occasionally seen remarkable recoveries.

I agree with much of what others have posted, and everyone is trying to help. However, first, as I said earlier, make sure the doctors have really made sure they know exactly what type of cancer they are treating, where it has spread, and have made sure there will be no sudden surprises during treatment. While most doctors are basically competent, I know better than most that not all doctors are the brightest bulbs in the sockets. I have seen too many mistakes made when all steps are not followed correctly. It is just that medical care today is so complicated, few patients can truly know this, at the start of their treatment.

Still, if we know exactly what cell type is present, where it is spread, and how everything else in the body is functioning, we can do things that would have been miraculous just twenty years ago.

May the Lord bless you, your mom, your family, and her doctors as everyone works to defeat this terrible menace!

Sorry to hear of your Grandmother...

Cancer runs in my family.. My father has 3 types of cancer..Unfortunately I havent heard from him in ages..

My mother was diagnosed with breast cancer along with Lupus at the age of 58..

She went through Chemotherapy and she is now cancer free.. She however said if she was any older Chemo would have been alot harder...I remember her suffering during this time... I tried getting her on Organics and she did switch..I am confident that not only the chemo but her organic diet change has kept her in good health to this day at the age of 63..

I've done alot of reading on All Natural Anti Cancer fighting health foods...
**Acai Berry is wonderful!!!
**Blueberries Awesome!!!
**MangoSteen AMAZING!!!
**Durian (Taste like Dumpster Juice but will kick @ss against those baddy cells in the body)
**Grapes Great for the Blood!!!

There are hundreds of thousands of nutritional supplements.. so your choice is open..

I am a strong believer in All Natural Anti cancer fighting Organics diets.

Send me a message if you want a link to a drink I can recommend.

All good advice, I am no doctor, but it's been said before chemo should be used as a last resort and at her age it could do more damage then good, remember cancer is an inbalance of the structure of cells they multiply   iregulary, out of there programmed life/death cycles, were healthy cells follow the structure, that means the healthy cells will be more damaged then the cancerous ones by chemo. Try more natural things that others have said, whatever works use it if not try something alse. But support is the key.

Im sorry to hear about your mum, I hope that someone on here has information that will help her to heal her body.

Cancer as I understand it, is most likely caused by a virus that has taken hold of cells in the body. We all develop cancer cells many times throughout our lives, but for many of us our immune systems are effective in removing them from our body.

Ensure the body's elimination organs are in top shape, Lots of clean drinking water for the kidneys, bitter herbs for the liver, deep breathing to eliminate toxins through the lungs.

Definitely go organic if you can afford to, the reduced chemical intake will allow her liver to effectively eliminate toxins from the body. If you can't afford to go completely organic, wash fruit and vegetables in water with apple cider vinegar added. And remove cores from fruits like apples.

Apple civer vinegar (organic, unfiltered, unpasteurised) can also be taken in water to alkalize the body. It will also help detoxify the body.

Reduce consumption of sugar, like fruits and high carbohydrate vegetables like carrots – and remove refined sugar completely. Sugar depresses it the immune system. Make sure any fruit is eaten after a protein meal. Cancer cells, like ordinary cells need food/energy – they get this from the sugar sources as opposed to the fat/protein sources. Eating the fruit after protein ensures the sugar is not directly sent into the bloodstream.

Avoid foods that are likely to have an immunologic effect, eg wheat/grains.
Stick to lean protein, vegetables, especially green leafy vegetables (organic), some fruits, high fibre (psyllium husk).

Through the process of angiogenesis, tumours will tap into the blood stream, directing blood, and therefore a source of food, into itself. Find a good herbalist that can prescribe herbs that will prevent angiogenesis.

Positive attitude is key, if she is prone to depressive mood, give her 10 minutes a day to feel sad and sorrry for her condition, but then after that it is 23 hours and 50 minutes of positive affirmations and positive thinking.

If she has to have radiotherapy, use calendula (a plant) cream, instead of the usual petroleum based creams that the doctors recommend.