Question for ATS members - Facebook or "Conspiracy" Book?

Originally posted by skepticantiseptic

Sounds great...But please don't call it "Tin". You would be self denigrating everyone who posts there by referring to it as tin.

Plus you would be limiting those sane people who fear the name could be used against them...

Sort of like what has been in the news recently about how the mass murderers had posted to an alternative site called XYZ.

A cool but normal name would take it mainstream, and be user friendly to all.

I agree...the words "tin" or "tinfoil" has negative connotations associated with it...maybe have a contest for a name? name with most flags wins?
The concept is great. Facebook sucks anyway and the only reason I keep an account there is to keep in touch with my grown daughter.

I think that the idea of a social networking site such as the one mentioned would be great and certainly would reassure people with privacy concerns.
I only became a FB member last year as I was always haveing concerns about who would have access to my information etc.

I haven’t read all the replies, sorry, but here is my thoughts.

I hate facebook... Sorry, hate to be Mr negative but you asked

I created a fake account once just to see what it was about...

I hated everything about it... I hate the people it attracts. I hate the fact that EVERYONE is on it, all begging me to get an account so that i can speak to that stinky kid from my school geography class in 1986, who i had completely forgotten about, but now it seems that it is a matter of life and death for me to find out that he is married to a teacher, works as an accountant and has two children... WOW... I hate the silly hugs and stupid games... Hate the fact that grown men, who i play pool down the pub with, suddenly talk like feminised metro geeks.

I hate that it is abused by people who want to find out information regarding your private life... I hate pathetic looser women who try to get attention on facebook by posting risky photos of themselves and then try to act shocked when receiving all the male attention that they really knew they would receive and was the very reason for posting the photos in the first place... I hate the looser men that cannot see the shallowness of this and make pathetically weak and feeble attempts to flirt with these hollow women, and even worse, post photos of themselves that they think are sexy!!! Urrrgh!!

I hate the endless photos of sweaty twenty something’s, at their local bars, in group shots after several vodkas pulling silly faces with their arms all around each other honestly believing that "We are the BEST group of friends in the world and no one has ever had i night like this before so let’s stick it on face book"... yeah right... very original, can i be in your gang? NOT!!!

I hate the fact that if facebook closed down today people would only keep in touch with about 5% of the fantastic friends they have in their friends list...

I hate that people who i don’t really want to be friends with, and just see as acquaintances, find it irritating that i am not on face book... they REFUSE to send me an email of the picture they so desperately want to show me, claiming that i MUST join facebook because it makes everything so much easier!!!!

MOST of all... I HATE the fact that someone has figured out how to CORPORATISE socialising!!!! IS NOTHING BEYOND THEIR REACH???

Damn... one of the reasons i came to ATS was to escape the shallow redbull and vodka crowd of facebook and mix with people who actually think about a little more than idle chit chat and celeb story’s!!!

Please... no facebook... please... pretty please with flowers... im on my knees... for the love of God... think of the children!!!

Wow... ok... thats feels better now... breath... in out in out...




[edit on 11-5-2010 by Muckster]

Well, I don't really like facebook, and it's not really because of privacy reasons. I just think people need to actually talk to each others faces for real, not sit behind their computer all day. I wouldn't use it, but it does sound like a pretty cool idea I guess.

EDIT: Muckster = my opinion. That's exactly what I was thinking, just that you have the energy to type it. Thank you

[edit on 10-5-2010 by Calaustria]

Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by SkepticOverlord

 

I personally would not use it. I don't use any of the social networking sites and don't plan to use them.

Personality I think linkages to more public domains would ultimately harm ATS. One of the things that is terrific about the site is that you don't know who you're discussing something with. Thinking about the perspective absent knowing the age, location in many cases, sex and background of the person makes for a richer and more interesting debate environment, IMO.

I also think making it more "maintsteam" detracts from the feel of the site. Its a site for predominately serious folks who want to debate and discuss things in a thoughtful way. Thats exactly the opposite from the tripe that folks put on Facebook.

You've hit a home run with this site the way it is and marginal usability enhancements and some look and feel enhancements to make it seem fresh is all I would recommend, not changing the achitecture or integration with other sites

Thank you for saying what i wanted to say in a much more grown up, intelligent and polite manner than i could muster

I am not a fan of FB. I have a page and when I open it, there are 500 requests from people I don't know or don't want to talk too. I don't want any tress from farmville or guns from the mafia, thank you very much.
As for a FB knockoff - why? I have a profile page and I am on all the threads that interest me. If I want to make an "off topic" comment to someone, I use U2U. If we opened an ATSBook, what do you envision the members using it for? I'm seriously asking, it's late and my brain isn't helping me here.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Would join it right away. Not sure if I would abandon FB. Probably tone it down to a bare bones version. Got friends n all there.

not face book, no way, i`m gone if face book can get my details from here i`m sure others will to

I did not know that ATS did'nt record IP address's .The only reason I'm on Facebook isto play Farmville so I wouldn't miss it at all.

Sure, I would love a social network here on ATS. Then maybe I could get my Grandsons and daughter here. Actually, they are already here but don't want to admit it....lol

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


facebook sucks

ATS rocks

haha

I have been lurking regularly on ATS since 2007, and finally decided to join last year. I believe this forum is unique, not only because of the topics it presents, the type of people it attracts and therefore the ongoing wealth of information it provides. But the way that it is presented and monitored. I like the site very much as is and would be very disappointed if it became FB. I do have an account with FB, but I seldom use it and can honestly say that I'm turned off by the lack of privacy, and look forward to delete my account/information promptly. Also, I do like the ability to discuss all these topics under an assumed identity rather than my own. I have nothing to hide from my family and friends, but again, I don't like the idea of every Tom, Dick and Harry being able to decipher my likes or dislikes, inclinations or perceived weaknesses from my online profile. It's very 1984, and sadly Big Brother IS watching.

I dunno Bill,

I have always been a lil creeped out posting my pics and personal, goo,goo, gah gah, stuff online. Being on a message board Writing my opinions I think is deep enough for me. I do not think I would use it. I concur that the internet is the reflection of Man's Consciousness, but I think the Internet should be used for Information, to use to evolve as a person NOT, indulgences. For example, feel free to browse Facebook, and Myspace. It attracts creepy people.. Bah, the black and white answer, NO...

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


I would not touch Facebook with a ten foot pole.

Today I was at another site and was horrified when someone showed the "traffic statistics" for that site. It included such information as:
Male vs Female
Age bracket
level of education
race

This is a site where the e-mails are kept private and personal info is unwelcome so where the he!! did those statistics come from????

I vote for TinBook. It would be great to socialize more intimately with people who are trying to deny ignorance and learn the truth

I have no objections to the name "TinBook." There's never anything wrong with a little self-deprecating humor. If you can't laugh at yourself sometimes, you've probably got a few issues that need to be worked through.

$0.02


TheAssoc.

reply to post by Muckster


You just saved me a whole bunch of typing... if I could star you I would

No facebook clone on ATS please

I have recently opened a Facebook page and uploaded my entire family image collection. Then old friends from elementary school started messaging me about the family photos. Then I realized just how much information I am giving to people I don't actually want to view it so I deleted all my photo albums. Call it paranoia, call it being smart, or call it being careful.

I must add that I would assume that many people live a double life and in one half of their life, they frequent ATS and involve themselves with conspiracies and such. While in the second half they are very different and do not share with their family/peers about their hidden conspiracy life. Being Facebook networks your families friends, your friends friends, to the third power, people might put two and two together after a while that you are actually a conspiracy fanatic. ( not that being a conspiracy fanatic is bad)

All that said, Facebook is extremely powerful and has so many features, abilities, and future possibilities.

ATS' own Tinbook would give a conspiracy fan exactly what a conspiracy fan wants geared toward the subject matter.

I can see how this is a VERY hard decision. Danged if you do and danged if you don't.

If ATS is BOLD and wishes to create their own destiny it could be possible it's own networking site could theoretically trump facebook someday. Ya never know these days.

If I were two pick one, I must think, do I do what everybody else is doing? Or do I create my own destiny.

Know thyself.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


I recently deleted my Facebook for a number of reason privacy concerns not being the least of them. I would be interested in something like you describe, but without all the frills of facebook.
Seeashrink

Originally posted by Aceofclubs
not face book, no way, i`m gone if face book can get my details from here i`m sure others will to

I agree.




Instead of the name Tin-Book, may I suggest these alternatives.

Truth Seekers
World Wide Wise
Privacy Peeps
Conspiracy Connection
Free Thinkers Network

Something to that effect.

The reasoning is very evident why you called this website Above Top

Secret because of the subject matter and interest covered within this

site. You want to drive traffic to ATS from the outside but not get

carried away like Facebook and still have the privacy.


I suggest you call it ATS Web Pal where you have outsiders that have not

committed to becoming an ATS member but can communicate to ATS

members privately or openly. No different then an email but gives the

outsider a chance to share ideas with ATS members and vise versa.

Call it kicking the tires before the outsiders join ATS and when they

join the outsiders have access to u2u also.


You want new members with new subject matter and ideas to join

ATS so let the outsiders each have 20 ATS Web Pal communications with

ATS members helping to drive more traffic to the site. If ATS members

and outsiders want to become part of the ATS Web Pal program with

rules and guidelines all they have to do is sign up for free. ^Y^




[edit on 10-5-2010 by amari]