Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

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yes i noticed that and i questioned him on it and had a little dig!. nobody i know would refrer to an internet forum or a social networking site as “the media" . maybe an I.T tutor or expert might refer to it as media or multimedia but only someone trying to add spin and importance would refer to it as “the media".

any normal everyday person would take "the media" as meaning mainstream news : websites/papers/t.v/radio. but im sure some believers are going to disagree!

thanks

rich

MORE FROM MY ASTRONOMER-PHYSICIST FRIEND , Robert Peter Sunman :


Hi Vicky,
As far as Judy is concerned, I just hope that there has been "an error in the translation" somewhere. Of course, there are optical filters which allow far UV to pass through, and these are used for measuring instruments and energy guiding, as well as on space-borne telescopes.
Now, it is more or less true to claim that UV-C (less than 2800 a (angstroms) [280 nanometers] is almost totally absorbed by ozone in the atmosphere, UV-A (315 -400 nm) is not affected, and UV-B (280-315 nm) is quite strongly affected, substantial atmospheric losses are due to Rayleigh scattering. I mention this because the Antarctic observatory is, I believe beneath an ozone hole, and should therefore be able to pick up some energy.
However, our principal source for UV imaging lies with space telescopes such as the EIT on SOHO and the Hopkins UV telescope. WUPPE, FUSP and FOS/HT do UV spectropolarimetric imaging down to 115nm, and principally work in the 150-280 range. EIT (extreme imaging UV telescope) is sensitive to light at 171 a, 195 a, 284 a and 304 a, so depending on where Judy obtained her data, there is no real reason why she should not be seeing extra-solar UV energy. (I would hesitate to use the word signals.)
We will see: I am not about to jump to any conclusions at this point.
It is worth noting that UV is the product of extremely hot sources, and blue white giants are massive producers of UV, while being far too hot for us to ever contemplate finding habitable planets nearby.
The Wow! signal, incidentally, was a radio signal and was picked up by the Ohio Big Ear which had been reset to search for narrow band radio emissions. The guy who wrote the word "Wow!" was Jerry Ehman, on the 15th August, 1977. The signal was measured on a 35 point scale. This means that it went from 1 to 9, and thence from A to Z. This led to some initial confusion, as many people seeing the signal, (6 E Q U J 5), thought it must be a code because it contain alphabetical and numerical characters.
Bob.

oops
sorry

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reply to post by cosmicpixie
I stand corrected.
This was info, Wayne says, from Judy? I think?

Originally posted by nenothtu



I'm pretty sure the REAL Wayne stood up. On Facebook, he posted that he had logged on to ATS, ready to do battle, before his posting started.

Again, I would like to point out how easy it is to pick a pen name and them self-publish (online) your work under said pen name.

Wayne, real or not, is pushing unprofessional material of his own creation, and his trust in the Dr Judy (without knowing her real location, identity or background) is a direct example of the type of research this guy puts into his "hobby" as a "hack scammer online".

The guy even calls ATS "the media", as if he is so hurried to sing of his "work" being "within the media".

The only people following this story with a view that it is real news are the very same people he is advertising to here on ATS.

This was no accident, nor was it a tragedy. It was marketing... amateur marketing.

People keep saying Wayne's reputation stands to be hurt by sharing this information, hence why he mustn't be hoaxing anyone.

Bull.

How is Icke's reputation?

How is Greer's reputation?

How is Wilcock's reputation?

All of them have set up a nice little business promoting hoaxes and lies.

Wayne seems to be a watered-down version of these "flash in the pan" hucksters.

And he seems more intent on talking about his books and websites then actually showing any "real concern" about a missing person (who by the way should NOW be researchable as a missing person if she is indeed still missing).

Wayne points out that Dr Judy's family is being sought out for more information. Wayne didn't even source check Dr Judy before squawking about her findings.

I doubt he will check to see if the nameless entities that surface to claim being "Judy's family" are actually related to this fictional Judy person.

This entire story is laughable, and Wayne just "used" ATS for a billboard.

Nothing more.

Good job Wayne...you just raised your audience from "nobody" to "maybe 100 people from ATS"

Boo Wayne...boo to you and your horrible job at researching everything you promote.

Amateur hucksters would not be caught dead using Facebook strangers as sources.




[edit on 7-5-2010 by Mr Mask]

radio telescopes all around the world are targeting the stars to try decipher the code...

THE ABOVE WAS ACTUALLY WAYNE'S COMMENTARY, WHAT JUDY ACTUALLY SAID WAS :

Several RAO´s (Radio Observatories) like Aricebo and others now in the US have gone online, England is online, South Africa is online, Australia has been online since last night! Russia is going online now, Germany is still in a discussion to go online, China is online. Holy s..t! News travels fast. Gonna unplug this freaken fone, I cannot get any work done..."
(posted about 6pm UK time)

AND THE FOLLOWING WAS WAYNE'S HEADLINE, NOT JUDY'S EXACT WORDS:

NASA ASTRONOMER DECIPHERS 'INTELLIGENCE' SIGNAL FROM NEARBY STARS... Radio telescopes all over the world are apparently all locking onto mysterious signals RIGHT NOW in an unusual part of the radio spectrum and have found a signal code! The astrophysicist involved is a personal friend and I am standing by for more news...
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That Judy mentioned telescopes around the world going online may just refer to what someone said earlier, about then targetting the areas to glean whatever a radio telescope can glean. Maybe it all started with a tip off via someone with access to the type of equipment that can detect these signals (deep within NASA?)and then this got relayed to someone in a ground based observatory and word spread....? Wayne's interpretation of things could be the very thing causing some of the confusion ?

TO RE-QUOTE MY ASTROBIOLOGIST FRIEND :

However, our principal source for UV imaging lies with space telescopes such as the EIT on SOHO and the Hopkins UV telescope. WUPPE, FUSP and FOS/HT do UV spectropolarimetric imaging down to 115nm, and principally work in the 150-280 range. EIT (extreme imaging UV telescope) is sensitive to light at 171 a, 195 a, 284 a and 304 a, so depending on where Judy obtained her data, there is no real reason why she should not be seeing extra-solar UV energy. (I would hesitate to use the word signals.)

SO IF SHE GOT HER INITIAL DATA FROM A 3RD PARTY THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THINGS A BIT BETTER ? She never actually states WHERE her data came from so everyone assumes she's saying it was little old her in her ground-based observatory

[edit on 7/5/10 by cosmicpixie]

Well Wayne, Judy, whoever. I have a group that is ready for a rescue mission if need be. Give us grid coordinates/ address etc and we can be anywhere in the US within 18 hours.

I figure if you need rescuing, we can do it and get you infront of a computer so you can come on here and settle this once an for all.

Someone tell Wayne so he can stop worrying

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hi cosmicpixie, while what you're saying is true, once somebody picked up on the fact that was a problem, judy herself then went on to defend the point of radio telescopes being able to pick up signals because she said something along the lines of every part of the spectrum gives off radio waves,

i cant remember what it was exactly but it was more nonsense to cover up the original story. but if it had just been wayne that misinterpreted the first part then surely judy would have explained that to him and explained that the signal had been received by something other than a radio telescope, but she didn't, she just added more rubbish to make it sound plausible to anyone that doesn't know better !

thanks

rich

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Oh yes... I forgot about that. Would be grateful if someone has the exact text as Wayne's deleted all the old threads

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hi cosmicpixie, its amongst your posts somewhere because you posted all waynes updates, i wish i could do it but i can do little more than just post because i have no p.c at the moment, i am using a playstation web browser and its very limited in what it can do, quoting sometimes causes errors because not all websites or the tools are totally compatible!!!

i know you're a bit stuck in the middle because wayne is a friend, and i understand you feel the need to defend him a little but this is all a nonsense and has more holes than a sieve!. and the story wayne tried to draw comparisons with to add credibility is even more a nonsense. i would love this to be true but it just isn't.

thanks

rich

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double post!!

oops sorry

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attention moderators, i don't know what has happened but could you remove those repeat posts please?

apologies to everyone! don't know how that happened ! playstation web browser error maybe!

thanks

rich

LOL.. Rich..

Hope you're not sending these posts via some UV - Radio transmitter are you??

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haha, don't know how that happened, think i jinxed myself by mentioning the ps3 web browser to cosmicpixie!!!.

when i tried to edit a post it just posted a load of repeats! aaaargh! lol.

either that or the m.i.b are playing with me because i have read judys story!

thanks

rich

Originally posted by RICH-ENGLAND
reply to post by cosmicpixie

 

hi cosmicpixie, its amongst your posts somewhere because you posted all waynes updates, i wish i could do it but i can do little more than just post because i have no p.c at the moment, i am using a playstation web browser and its very limited in what it can do, quoting sometimes causes errors because not all websites or the tools are totally compatible!!!

i know you're a bit stuck in the middle because wayne is a friend, and i understand you feel the need to defend him a little but this is all a nonsense and has more holes than a sieve!. and the story wayne tried to draw comparisons with to add credibility is even more a nonsense. i would love this to be true but it just isn't.

thanks

rich

I found it.

The reason I'm still probing has nothing to do with Wayne, it's all down to me being the type of person who is a like a dog with a bone. I am just trying to get to the bottom of it all, a process which involves trying to consider all sides of the possible scenarios. I can't seem to help myself . I'm always willing to disagree with a friend so it's nothing to do with that and he's really just a FB pal...never met or spoken to him .


It is frustrating for me with the science stuff as I am clueless...once I've heard back from my science-friend I can put things into better perspective. I've noticed there was some debate about what she said , with some people offering up scientific info that might make sense of it against the majority who were calling it nonsense. The man I know is very clued up and works with other huge brains and I was interested in his professional opinion . I guess I have to hear it from someone I actually know rather than someone on a forum whose creds & experience I have no idea about.

Phage is very hot on all this but his posts go way over my head so I can't quite figure out if he is saying YES, what she has said is possible ......(re her statement : From Far Infra Red to Deep ultra Violet Radiation gives of Radio Emissions. Even light from a candle will produce radio emissions on a sensitive receiver.

We modified it to be sensitive to Radiation Emissions on the far scale of the EM spectrum and used it to test results on a radio telescope. Cant say more...
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More than anything I like a good mystery

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Phage is very hot on all this but his posts go way over my head so I can't quite figure out if he is saying YES, what she has said is possible ......(re her statement : From Far Infra Red to Deep ultra Violet Radiation gives of Radio Emissions. Even light from a candle will produce radio emissions on a sensitive receiver.


I remember this....

She posted two youtube videos to back up her claim.

Phage, I believe, called it rubbish?

It most definitely is, too. The youtube vids she put up didn't even relate directly to what she was claiming.

I would look for the posts, but I am wrapping up here at work.

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I doubt if this helps much, but regarding: "Even light from a candle will produce radio emissions on a sensitive receiver."... I think I've read that (long ago) elsewhere. I think a candle can cause radio-static on a sensitive radio receiver, because the candle flame ionizes the air surrounding it. The ionized air is electrical and produces the the weak radio-frequency noise. Or... something like that. So, I think her 'candle - radio emissions' may be a true statement.