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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Surreptitiously, King George infiltrated the Colonies and their feudal attempt to form a new government, using spy’s’ composed of English lawyers and English aristocrats, loyal to him. The spy’s assignment was to infiltrate the new government; carry out the plan to defeat the Colonists through debt and establish regular reports to the King! The Church also had their appointed representative in place to protect and insure that their interest is being observed. Much of the loans received from the French, went into the pockets of the Founding Fathers!

The Founding Fathers eventually conceded to King George and the Holy Roman Church’s demands, by and through the intervention and persuasiveness of the Kings spy’s. Ironically, the common denominator or glue that eventually bound King George, the Founding Fathers, the English lawyers and English aristocrats together was a secret society called the “Illuminati.” Even Paul Revere and Benjamin Franklin, were members of the Illuminati! This secret society had a criminal and deadly past in Europe and in America they were eventually renamed, “The Free and Accepted Masons.” The majority of the regular membership of the Free and Accepted Masons; do not know about the “Illuminati influence” within their rank and file! The Illuminati members operate out of special secret societies separate from the regular Masonic membership and are found in every branch of the Free and Accepted Masons of the World!

Think about the Colonists who we have been taught to revere by our public school system! All of these individuals were members of this secret society and all were Traitors. Our history books also instruct us to apotheosize the Founding Fathers, but don’t hold them in reverence, hold them in contempt! By and through their intervention, “Slaves you are and Slaves you will ever be!” An example of a man in history we have been taught to revere is Benjamin Franklin. Would it shock you to learn that he was on the Kings payroll and his many trips to England, was actually to report on the colonial government to King George?

The Declaration of Independence is another story omitted from our American history books. Of the fifty-one men involved in the creation of the Declaration of Independence, twenty-one were actually (traitors) and on the Kings payroll. During the Revolutionary War; English Officers were provided the names, addresses and family members of these thirty (loyalists) involved in the creation and signing of the Declaration of Independence. The English soldiers had been ordered to hunt down and murder all thirty (loyalists), their wives, children and all relatives, with further instructions to burn their bodies inside their homes. The soldiers were to leave no trace of these men and their families; to wipe out their existence for an eternity! The history of civilizations has taught us all that martyrs are dangerous to men of power and King George didn’t want to leave any martyrs! It is pretty obvious who provided the detailed information about the thirty (loyalists), their family and addresses!

At first glance, it appeared that Guy Madison of Virginia; was so concerned about lawyers holding any position in American government, that he championed the 13th Amendment, which barred lawyers from holding any public office in government! The 13th Amendment was ratified, but never made it into print in our government controlled school books and public classrooms. The Amendment was surreptitiously removed and replaced by the 14th Amendment. The 15th Amendment became the 14th and so on. Madison’s efforts appear admirable but his later actions, as a member of the 1st Congress; suggests that his only real concern was to block lawyers from undermining the theft that he and his compatriots’ had planned for America!

Once the cost of the Revolutionary War sufficiently placed the Colonists in debt; the English soldiers were ordered to dispense with their efforts, recover their arms and within the next eight years they eventually returned to England. The Colonists were so glad to see the fighting stop; that they allowed the soldiers to retreat and exit America peacefully. There is an old legal Maxim that states: “The first to leave the field of battle – loses.” Pursuant to this Maxim, the Founding Fathers proclaimed the Colonists the victors! A Maxim is a legal truth that is time honored and incorruptible.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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In reality, the War was just a diversion! The Colonists had no chance of succeeding in their efforts. Examine the facts for yourself! During this era; England had the largest Army and Navy in the World. King George owned England, Ireland and France, having a combined population of about 60 million subjects. The Colonists were poorly educated, poorly armed and composed of farmers, tradesmen, bonded slaves, women and children and boasted a total population of only 3 million subjects. And considering the undermining that was occurring to their nation by the Kings spy’s and the Founding Fathers; the Colonists didn’t have a prayer of defeating the English!

Americans have been indoctrinated by our federal and state governments and through government controlled public schools and literature; government controlled media and government controlled churches [YES, EVEN THE CHURCHES]; to believe that America defeated the English! We celebrate that victory and our so-called Independence each year on the 4th of July, and it is all a bunch of propaganda; a carrot to lead the horse and keep this society stupid and passive! We boast today that our country represents the finest schools in the world, but in reality, we’re no smarter than the first Colonists! We only know more about other things because of new technology developments during the last 250 years and yet the average IQ of America is 70.

Documented proof that the Constitution was not for us can be found at: Padelford, Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah, [14 Georgia 438, 520]. This was a Court case wherein the Plaintiffs sued the City of Savannah, for violating what they believed were their constitutionally protected rights! The decision of the Judge says it all: “But indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in Court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution, the Constitution, it is true, is a compact but he [the private person] is not a party to it!” [Emphasis added]

The United States Constitution was converted into a (Trust) and the legal definition of a Trust is: “A legal obligation with respect to property given by one person (donor), to another (trustee), to the advantage of a beneficiary (Americans).” The property in this Trust includes all land, your personal possessions that you believe you own and your physical body. The donor of the Trust is the King of England and the Holy Roman Church. The Trustee’s are all federal and state public officials, which means that they truly are Agents of a foreign power; the King and the Vatican.

The reason the Constitution was converted into a Trust is because, as a non-trust business plan; The Constitution completely bound the hands of our government officials! By their converting it into a Trust, our public officials; were then free to make any changes they desired to this government, without their constituents knowledge! The rules of a Trust are secret and no trustee can be compelled to divulge those rules, and the rules can be changed by the trustees without notice to the beneficiary!

The one pitfall confronting them and their plan was the fact that by converting the Constitution into a Trust, our public officials had to legally assign a beneficiary; and the beneficiary chosen could not offend or be in contrast to the numerous International Treaties that were in force. Our public officials wanted to stay in control of the Trust as the trustees; however a trustee cannot also be a beneficiary! So even though the Constitution was never designed or written for the Sovereign American people; they unknowingly became the beneficiary of this secret Trust and hence, the creation of the “propaganda” regarding our Constitutional Rights!



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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All high ranking public officials, lawyers and judges; laugh at the ignorance of people who claim that their Constitutional Rights have been violated! Lawyers are actually taught to treat the members of the general public as inferior individuals! This also explains the ‘air of arrogance’ that most lawyers convey in their demeanor and speech!

The more powerful Agents of the states and the federal government however, have been stealing the benefits from the Trust through numerous maneuvers that have the appearance of being lawful. In their defense; many former public officials (Agents) were not corrupt to begin with but, by accepting bribes or as the result of enjoying an arranged extramarital relationship; they became the victim of an extortion plot and succumbed to the threat to expose the bribe or their elicit affair, to their constituents! By becoming an (Agent), all was forgiven and forgotten! The people, who arranged the bribes, also arranged the situations, and applied the pressure to force honest men to become dishonest! [An example of this could be a sudden demand by a Bank to pay off a loan, based upon a hidden clause in the loan contract and which could result in a foreclosure, bankruptcy and scandal]!

There are no remaining public federal employees in America! All employees who you believe to be a part of America’s government, are actually agents of a foreign government and this definition includes the [President]. The federal elections are a joke on us! All of the candidates have been (jointly preselected and prescreened) by the National Boards of the Republican and Democratic Parties, well before the Election process. All of our federally elected officials, appointed administrators, federal police and Judges; receive their paychecks through the Office of Personnel Management. OPM is a division of the International Monetary Fund, which is owned by the Rockefeller and Rothschild families and their Banking Empires, which operates in tandem with the United Nations. The IRS and Interpol; are owned by the International Monetary Fund, which has been identified in an earlier version of the U. S. Army Manual, as a Communist Organization!

Those Americans, who do not know how to assert their beneficiary status; are treated by the government and their courts, as a corporate fiction! The corporate governments and their courts, only have jurisdiction over corporations. Corporations have no rights or jurisdiction over living people and are only provided considerations, which have been pre-negotiated in contracts by their directors. Otherwise, they’re governed totally by commercial law, and so are you!

In part two, the former judge will address the “corporate fiction” called the United States.



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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This first part is really a long read but it's very interesting. It could look sometimes fishy that some continue to deny the power of secret societies and powerful organisations as Roman Legions and the power of Rome itself, after all the informations in this thread... ProtoplasmicTraveler paved a new path that directly lead to TPTB...but in my opinion, there will still have Barricades, traps and ambush by Roman Knights to defend the secret Roman Empire...









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posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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ok i think i figured it out


DEFINITELy seems to be a "cupola" or "tholos"

in the video the yale teacher called it a tholos...which is a greek circle temple shape

culpa looks like the same thing too en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:09 PM
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and why does columbus totally miss america and hits the west indies....

which years later becomes a huge slave/rum running port in the golden triangle connecting back up to..wait for it...

Newport, RI

you know...this piece of work i posted before that is a round church/cupola/tholos shape used thoughout the world today



www.thenewporttower.com...

many believe this newport tower was built by henry sinclair...on a templar/cisterian trip to the new world around 1400

verrazano came back in 1500s to check in on Newport and mapped out coastline, hmm think he had the templar flags too



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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i agree that the direct connection b/w caesar and today's world is very tuff

but i can see how ROME and its elite families never ended and just kept moving and expanding

i also see now important the Knights Templar are in this now as they were the 1st international bankers and international corporation

after the hell we've been thru since 2000....i can't be so quick to discount anymore

and its no surprise why bankers would be allowed to run rampant and then get bailed out

they ARE the part of the elite or directly work for them ...and just so happens it DOES connect to this idea called Rome



posted on Sep, 6 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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Amazing how every pieces of the puzzle fits perfectly isn't it....now imagine if we would be 100 or 1000 or even more to explore Proto's discovered path to TPTB, how we could succeed to unmasked TPTB and expose the secret Roman Empire to all with the secret agenda that they planned for a New World Order... and then we could have a chance to overthrown the Empire...



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 12:26 AM
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More and more, the conspiracy community is working in the same direction..!

All Roads Lead To Rome - Jordan Maxwell





All Roads Lead To Rome - Eric Jon Phelps





All Roads Lead To Rome - Tad Lumpkin





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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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The Roman Empire Hidden in plain sight

The two-headed eagle appears on the coat of arms of the following countries and territories:

Albania (see Coat of arms of Albania)
Armenia (see Coat of arms of Armenia)
Austria (see Coat of arms of Austria)
Austria-Hungary (historical)
Byzantine Empire (historical)
German Confederation (historical)
Holy Roman Empire (historical)
Kingdom of Mysore (historical)
Montenegro (see Coat of arms of Montenegro)
Republika Srpska Russian Federation (see Coat of arms of Russia)
Russian Empire (historical)
Seljuk Empire (historical)
Serbia and Montenegro (historical)
Serbia (see Coat of arms of Serbia)
Nemanjić Serbia (historical)
Serbian Empire (historical)
Moravian Serbia (historical)
Serbian Despotate (historical)
Kingdom of Serbia (historical)
Kingdom of Yugoslavia (historical)
Spanish Empire historical)

It also appears on the following coat of arms and flags:

Flag of Albania
Flag of Montenegro
Flag of Serbia
Flag of the Greek Orthodox Church,
The Coat of Arms and flag of Hellenic Army General Staff. Army XVI Infantry Division.
The coat of arms of National Guard of the Republic of Cyprus.
The Coat of Arms of the Serbian Armed Forces .
The coat of arms of Belgrade, capital of Serbia
The Coat of Arms of the city of Valjevo, Serbia
The coat of arms of the province of Groningen, Netherlands
The coat of arms of the city of Groningen, Netherlands
The coat of arms of the city of Nijmegen, Netherlands
The coat of arms of the town of Bolsward, Netherlands
The coat of arms of Freemasonry



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Now if we add the countries with the single head eagle Roman symbole we have first and foremost...

The Great Seal of the United States of America
Coat of arms of the Albanian Kingdom
Coat of arms of Austria
Coat of arms of Egypt.
Coat of arms of Germany
the state emblem of Karnataka, India
Coat of arms of Mexico
NapoCoat of arms of the town of Berg en Terblijt leonic .in the Netherlands
Coat of arms of Poland
Coat of arms of the Romanian
Coat of arms of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

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posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Great posts and info about the true status of the U.S.





Surreptitiously, King George infiltrated the Colonies and their feudal attempt to form a new government, using spy’s’ composed of English lawyers and English aristocrats, loyal to him. The spy’s assignment was to infiltrate the new government; carry out the plan to defeat the Colonists through debt and establish regular reports to the King! The Church also had their appointed representative in place to protect and insure that their interest is being observed. Much of the loans received from the French, went into the pockets of the Founding Fathers!

Many believe this was in conjunction with the Rothschild "investments".

The Treaty of Paris, I think, had provisions that guaranteed all debts be PAID, not forgiven as one would expect as a result of revolution !!!

I also remember something else about King George.


quotes from post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 



King George amongst quite a lot of things as you can see by his title was really Prince George, a Prince of the Holy Roman Empire, but he wasn’t just a Prince of the Holy Roman Empire, he was a prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire, a person who could elect sates, and officials into the Roman Empire.

He was also the arch-treasurer of the Holy Roman Empire, because back in the 1200’s William the Conqueror bequeathed England and all his, and his heirs possessions to the Pope and Rome in exchange for his Blessing.

While he later gives up his claims as the English Monarch to the Colonies, he makes no such distinction as Rome’s Prince Elector of the United States, and Rome’s Arch-Treasurer of the United States.

The American Colonies were in fact never the property of England to begin with because of that special arrangement. Rome simply leases all of England and the Monarchy’s property back to them, and allows them to administer it all for a profit.


I think one thing they overlooked in the treaty was the mis-spelling of the new nation:

The correct spelling was to be:


The UKnighted States of America



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Christopher Columbus set sail from Spain with 3 ships, half of the financing was to come from the Queen and the other half from private Italian investors ( ROME ) On his ships' sails we can see the Roman Knight Templar's red cross sign. if Rome really disbanded the Order in 1312, how could Rome sent the Catholic Knight Templar Christopher Columbus, on a exploration adventure in 1492



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and why does columbus totally miss america and hits the west indies....

which years later becomes a huge slave/rum running port in the golden triangle connecting back up to..wait for it...


It could be that the "famous" Columbian Expedition in 1492 was actually just the "official" expedition, and may have been greatly "enhanced" and well written to reflect historical requirements.

Some scholars have opinions that say many scouting missions were sailed before the "main conquests" were to begin in mass, perhaps as long as 10 years prior. "Official" accounts have Columbus submitting plans as early as 1485. Some historical accounts have Columbus receiving recognition for claims to new lands before 1492.
If the target was an alternate route to India (a known place), why would new land claims be issued ?

Original maps may have been in the possession of the Vatican long before Columbus.

The Templars may have been given those maps centuries before, as they were in the shipping business, and had close ties to the Vatican.

The theory of Caesar looting the Library of Alexandria would make sense as to why the Vatican has the original maps.

The maps were there from ancient trade routes and "exploratory" ventures to the "Americas" long before Rome.
Obviously, the "freight" charges would have made most trade of common goods a bit "expensive" at the time, not to mention disasters like weather and obstacles not common to the well traveled routes.

The 1492 expedition was the beginning of the final segment of the master plan to colonize the new land claims.

They may have chosen to land in the islands for strategic reasons.
One being the need for secure ports and launching areas.
The "Natives" were not as sea worthy coming from the mainlands, the islands were perfect and lightly populated.

Something as big as this turned out to be was certainly a long and well planned event as opposed to a pure luck gamble. I think they knew EXACTLY where they were going by 1492 !



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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thats what I am realizing

now knowing about the henry sinclair trip, the hooked X on runestones from Minnesota to Maine to RI, the viking settlement in canada , the newport tower octagonal (templar/romanesque" structure

they had the knowledge/maps being passed on it seems to me especially when you're seeing the templar flags on most of these voyages to the new world

years later...an africa/newport RI/ West Indies trade route would be established and immense wealth came out of it

columbus just happened to nail that

there just happens to be an octagonal templar structure in newport

africa to this day...still a mess

thanks ROME!

oh i'm watching the rome videos someone posted. Yale teacher says NERO helped create the octagonal architecture fyi



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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I think the "Northern" expeditions were real.

I think that the Spanish were chosen by the Vatican to go straight west because of the religious "boundaries" in Europe set by the Vatican, and because Spain was closer to the main targets, and had better resources to ship & supply the colonizations that were planned. And they had the "personel" to go on a permanent basis (administrators, tradesmen, military etc.).

Also, the northern discoveries did not yield any gold and the areas were sparsely populated and the weather had to be a major factor.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
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Original maps may have been in the possession of the Vatican long before Columbus.

The Templars may have been given those maps centuries before, as they were in the shipping business, and had close ties to the Vatican.

The theory of Caesar looting the Library of Alexandria would make sense as to why the Vatican has the original maps.

The maps were there from ancient trade routes and "exploratory" ventures to the "Americas" long before Rome.
Obviously, the "freight" charges would have made most trade of common goods a bit "expensive" at the time, not to mention disasters like weather and obstacles not common to the well traveled routes.

The 1492 expedition was the beginning of the final segment of the master plan to colonize the new land claims.

They may have chosen to land in the islands for strategic reasons.
One being the need for secure ports and launching areas.
The "Natives" were not as sea worthy coming from the mainlands, the islands were perfect and lightly populated.

Something as big as this turned out to be was certainly a long and well planned event as opposed to a pure luck gamble. I think they knew EXACTLY where they were going by 1492 !




I think you're right my friend...Rome probably wait for the right moment until they had all the recources and were ready to colonize the New World.

1534 was a market strategy choice. Your explanations for Spain as the official chosen country to discover the New World make alot of sens too.

The theory that Rome financed all 3 major countries ( England - France - Spain ) to colonize the NW is logical, Rome financed not only the exploration fees but also the wars ( conflicts ) againt each others, this strategy of 3 secret Legions was to control all the New World colonies, kept them in line...

The secret Roman Triumvirate in the New World, fooled the new world population for the past 400+ years, we live in a false feeling of identity and Liberty. As Proto often demonstrated, the Boston Tea crisis, the American Revolution and all major crisis and wars were financed by the same organisation, in reality, it's a old strategy used since centuries..!


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Christopher Columbus... a Catholic Knight Templar, this is the most troubling conspiracy, i can understand why Rome could had fooled the world about the sacrifice of the Knights Templar Order, after all the atrocities they did in the name of God under Rome's orders but if this demonstrate that the Order was in reality never disbanded by Rome, well i wonder under which mask they hide now...

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posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 04:44 AM
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The Knights Templar, as always, evokes a serious pull on the imagination. To counter blinkered vision and one-track minds, the interested reader may feel free to open up to the following:

The Secret Sun Blogspot:

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 1

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 2

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 3

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 4

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 5

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 6

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 7

Another History of the Knights Templar - Part 8

Can't necessarily agree with the conclusion that Christopher Knowles is driving toward, but there are a lot of very interesting pieces of information and freethinking on the topic in this series. Well worth a read for those looking into the history of the Templars.

Also see:

Qadosh: The Johannite Tradition - Sons of the Serpent Tribe

Also look into the books by the author of the above article (from the now defunct Antiquities of the Illuminati website):

The Legacy of the Gift - Jonathan Sellers

The main one, Qadosh: The Johannite Tradition, is no longer available...

Too bad, it was a full length exposition of his theories on the Knights Templar of which the previous linked article is only a snippet of.



posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Both sides must be taken into consideration...., we must investigate other sources of information than the official history books. It was shown here that history have been tampered with, to manipulated us. TPTB wants to control te past to control the present and our futur. People accept to live in a false reality upheld by pre-programmed belief systems in exchange of comforting lies but tks to Proto and his thread, we can now counter blinkered vision and avoid one-track minds and see / understand the world we are living in as it really is...

TPTB wants to control the world population and keep them in line... Many Roman Knights, fights to tame the rebel minds and get them back in with the official, manipulated history. Sometimes, sleeper agents can be inactive for months but when TPTB, one of its secret societies or Rome itself is menaced, they appear to defend the Empire...The real boundary of our mind is only the one that we impose to ourself...



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posted on Sep, 8 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Additional to mega research thread... I searched on "road rome collins" and didn't see Michael Collins mentioned in your thread yet...

Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, Born: Rome, Italy October 31, 1930.



posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Halloween for Elites of TPTB...
Here is probably what a masked Roman feast look like in the 21st century.






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posted on Sep, 9 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Interesting to note, not sure how deep this rabbit hole goes, but, straight from the wikipedia article, quoting from his own autobiography, Carrying the Fire: An Astronaut's Journeys. Cooper Square Press. pp. 8–13. :


"For his first EVA Collins did not leave the Gemini capsule, but stood up through the hatch with a device that resembled a sextant. In his biography he said he felt at that moment like a Roman god riding the skies in his chariot."



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