All Roads Lead to Rome

The United States is one of the Secret Roman Legions

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At the front of the chamber of the House of Representatives, on either side of the national flag, are two symbols of power, known as fasces. These are relief sculptures of the image of an axe embedded in a bundle of sticks and tied together with a strap. For those who know history, this comes as an obvious reference to the Roman Empire. Wherever Caesar went, the fasces were carried before him as a symbol of power.

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In the image, is also another symbol of power of the Roman Empire. Just to the left and in front of the fasces is a mace with the image of an Roman eagle atop it. A Roman mace is a blunt weapon, a type of club or virge that uses a heavy head on the end of a handle to deliver powerful blows. The Mace is not used today for actual combat in the House of Representatives of course but it represent possible punishment...

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The statue Freedom represent the Roman Goddess Libertas. In 46 B.C., the Roman Senate voted to build and dedicate a shrine to Libertas in recognition of Julius Caesar, a statue of the goddess stood in the Roman Forum.

The United States Roman Legion's Role is clear...

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Mick, the Structure the Statue stands on..what exactly is that called? its the MINI romanesque/templar structure on TOP of the bigger rotunda structure

seen this all over the US on capital buildings. seen similar things in european architecture and templar churches

8 legs i believe

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Very intriguing, i never focused on that part on the structure, i'll search about it, if you have more on this post it here please

tks

It looks like it's 12 Roman fasces supporting a globe. hmmmm nice discovery my friend i wonder what those 12 Roman Symboles, secretly represent...

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yes looks like it...now...what you show in your pictures here..look 1 level below

notice the 12 other FEET/colums below it

this is what i also see.all over important archicteture in 8-12 legged circular romanesque or templar structures

st louis



portugal round church/inner sanctum



very old roman mausoleum using similar shape at top



newport mystery tower



over and over you can find this shape in architecture and on VERY important buildings like levels of a cake at the top in europe too

i see it again here in modern gazebos

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Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by mick1423

 

this is what i also see.all over important archicteture in 8-12 legged circular romanesque or templar structures

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SuperTripps, you really found something important i think


At first i remembered Proto's post about a concil of less then 12 men at the top of the Roman Empire but it seams that it's sometimes 8 or 12 legs so then it make me think....the fasces Legs are definitely representing Rome as TPTB that control the world but the number of legs could be the Roman Legion's titles (#).

A 8 legs architecture with the Roman Statue makes 9 ...representing a member or Leader of the 9th Legion and a 12 legs architecture, with the Roman Statue makes 13, representing a member or Leader of the 13th Legion of the Roman Empire....The Roman Empire is the Great Architect of the World, controlling and designing the world with his Legions using the power of propaganda and money...

I think TPTB ( the secret Roman Empire ) have 3 major Legions to control the Empire, Rome's new Triumvirate: City of London + City of Vatican + City of columbia are the 3 independant states within states wich composes the most powerful Legions of the secret Roman Empire. The first is financial control over earth economy, the second is religion control over the earth and the third one is military control over the earth.

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At the front of the chamber of the House of Representatives, on either side of the national flag, are two symbols of power, known as fasces. These are relief sculptures of the image of an axe embedded in a bundle of sticks and tied together with a strap. For those who know history, this comes as an obvious reference to the Roman Empire. Wherever Caesar went, the fasces were carried before him as a symbol of power.

rumors or..............

History News Network


Why Caesar Was Really Killed ... an alternative explanation: the Senate aristocrats killed Caesar because they ...
hnn.us/articles/1643.html
Julius Caesar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4.3 Political rumors; 5 Literary works. 5.1 Memoirs; 6 ... saw hundreds of his political enemies killed or exiled. Caesar, as ... Because Caesar's clemency had resulted in his murder ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_caesar


all da ham-jams-gams-fams en.wikipedia.org...

actually ++ +From 44BC onwards +++ there is no mo romans empire - but -rumors empire worldwide
From caesar st rowing dise ||||"44bc_
tillll...apples ?....fasces... .. styx?... why?
_________________________________Throwing dice - theory

Sum of two dice

It gets more interesting when you have two dice. One thing that you can do is work out what the total of the dice is. The dice experiment allows you to simulate throwing pairs of dice and see what the result is. This is a good introduction to probability, since you can see which combinations are more likely. But the real world, or even a simulated real world, never matches completely with calculated probability. So how do we calculate it? The first thing is to work out what the range is. You can't have a total less than 2 (both dice being 1) and you can't have a total more than 12 (both dice being 6). The easiest way to see what the probabilities is to write out the possible totals. There are 36 of them in all (6 x 6).

Total on dice Pairs of dice________________ Probability
2 1+1______________________________ 1/36 = 3%
3 1+2, 2+1 _________________________ 2/36 = 6%
4 1+3, 2+2, 3+1 _____________________ 3/36 = 8%
5 1+4, 2+3, 3+2, 4+1__________________ 4/36 = 11%
6 1+5, 2+4, 3+3, 4+2, 5+1 ____________ 5/36 = 14%
7 1+6, 2+5, 3+4, 4+3, 5+2, 6+1_________ 6/36 = 17%
8 2+6, 3+5, 4+4, 5+3, 6+2 ____________ 5/36 = 14%
9 3+6, 4+5, 5+4, 6+3 ________________ 4/36 = 11%
10 4+6, 5+5, 6+4 ____________________ 3/36 = 8%
11 5+6, 6+5_________________________ 2/36 = 6%
12 6+6 ____________________________ 1/36 = 3%
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____________________________________fortune sticks. This ancient eastern fortune telling method is usually seen as a chance game or even a surrender to one’s fate. When played, one will be able to open up the doors to one’s future.

The Chinese used these fortune sticks for many centuries, using it to calm troubled souls by seeking advice regarding the many difficult situations. It is said that the Chinese fortune sticks are used in order to contact the Chinese gods and goddesses since the sticks are divine. Now, you can also use this in the modern times, whether you are indeed a full-pledged truth seeker or simply someone who wants to dabble in the ancient and Asian art of consulting with the spirit world.

The Chinese fortune sticks works in such a way by first asking a question to heaven. After thinking of your question, you will then get the sixty four pieces of sticks. Take note that each of these sticks are individually numbered and are also placed in a highly sacred container that is marked with the discreet Chinese character that is used to symbolize spiritual blessings.
To start, link-about

chinesefortunesticks.com...

rom or roma means a husband a man (manu - sk__also thinking. logically
brother and as a real - human - rom -
- in romani
so its not a symbol
why need for symbols


after Cesarean - was there any need i for an-other leading idea

rom - mind - perfect piano intro

All i can coment on your post is:

Originally posted by mick1423
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Originally posted by SuperTripps
reply to post by mick1423

 

this is what i also see.all over important archicteture in 8-12 legged circular romanesque or templar structures

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SuperTripps, you really found something important i think

At first i remembered Proto's post about a concil of less then 12 men at the top of the Roman Empire but it seams that it's sometimes 8 or 12 legs so then it make me think....the fasces Legs are definitely representing Rome as TPTB that control the world but the number of legs could be the Roman Legion's titles (#).

A 8 legs architecture with the Roman Statue makes 9 ...representing a member or Leader of the 9th Legion and a 12 legs architecture, with the Roman Statue makes 13, representing a member or Leader of the 13th Legion of the Roman Empire....The Roman Empire is the Great Architect of the World, controlling and designing the world with his Legions using the power of propaganda and money...

exactly, there it is in plane view on vatican and white house again. 8-12 legs
and your hypothesis to compare this to the legions is like AMAZING

i remember loving the Series ROME on HBO a few years ago. then i see proto dude link it all in. he he

i still think its very feasible for at least one entity could have split at least mentally over time to build it self up or forces within it that actively fight ROME. its almost too perfect to think all roads lead to one place

the council of 8 stuff still freaking with my head

edit on 24-8-2011 by mick1423 because: (no reason given)

The money travel from a Legion to another until it reach Rome's safe. America send taxes to London and London send the money to Rome.

Modern day countries which were under the control of ancient Rome are clues of the secret Legions of Rome

England, France, Spain, Portugal, Giblartar, Mauritania, Tangiers, Morocco, Algiers, Tunis, Lybia, Malta, Cyprus, Egypt, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Armenia, Nagorno Karabakh, Azerbaijan, Caspian Sea, Russia, Georgia, Ukraine, Moldavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Fyrom, Albania, Kosovo, Montenegro, Serbia, Bosnia - Herzegovina, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Austria, Germany and of course its basic land of Italy.


Now if we take the most powerful Legions that conquered new territories with force or christian beliefs we can add:


England: ( U.S.A - Canada - Australia- India - Hong kong - EU )

Spain: ( South America - China )

U.S.A: ( Japan - Iraq - afganistan and every where else in the world where there is american military base and powerful corporation )

ROME already have control over the world, the next New World Order is only a modern and more efficient way to control the Empire and reinforce its power over the world.

Here is a very interesting post from xuenchen when asked who owns the Vatican, in the thread '' The Real power of the Vatican ''

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by Gexi13
And who owns the vatican?

The Vatican is a corporation like most nations and big companies.

the "owners" are the stockholders.

TPTB are the stockholders.

no one knows for sure WHO they are except themselves.

any large holding tank with large assets are the likely suspects.
many international corporations and nations all own stock in each other.
the most powerful are the ones with the most valuable resources at any given time in history, all subject to change as events dictate.
...like oil, food resources, industrial populations, etc.

as has been posted before, the 3 major "visible" institutions are:

The Vatican, City of London, and Washington D.C.
all 3 are independent city-states not directly "governed" by any nation.
that's because they are headquarters for the "governing" nations and smaller international corporations !

The Rothschild family controls all the money and holdings for the Vatican directly, and for most nations through the central banking systems worldwide.

The Rothschild "family" is large as is the Vatican "family".

we could ask the same question (on a smaller scale) for General Motors ?

The entire concept grew from the ancient merchant/trade commerce groups.
They have been "in business" for many thousands of years.
Names and methods have changed hundreds of times.

very deep and complicated subject.
in short, the corporations are formed with longevity in mind.
thats how they keep the assets in the controlling families for generations.

some info links:

www.peoplesconference.org...

jubilee2012.50webs.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.bis.org...

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mick can you point me to an independent source about julius caesar not being killed

is there any truth to it??? that can be found ?

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Every pieces of the puzzle is in this thread, i really suggest you to read it all, i know it's over 4000 posts but it worth the read beleive me, sadly the brillant mind that exposed it all, Thomas Henley, fell in combat here but you can still ask him all the questions you want at his website, just type his ATS screen name and .net for extention. Like all here, i really miss him here and specially in this thread. Many considered him as the Spartacus of the 21th century.

Read all the posts in this thread.

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i did read it..was like reading a book

i just still don't remember seeing any independent research about jc living

i don't think a so called elite telling him it, is enough

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The whole problem with history in general, especially Roman history, is that the supporting documents and genuine artifacts either do not actually exist or they have been "created and discovered" and back dated to suit the Vatican's and TPTB agendas (agendas of the ancient merchant/business elite).

The only genuine written records would be in the sole possession of the Vatican, and many may not have even been "discovered" yet.

I have read some books and manuscripts and essays about this.
All have been in libraries and don't seem to be on any websites today, and all were published long ago and had chapters that referred to the conflicting records and possible fabrications.

All are theories of course, but many make very good sense, as we know from today's manipulated "documentaries" that may very well become tomorrow's history.

Some scholars who have delved into the "anti-theories" believe that Julius Caesar was probably a fictional character that was created and paralleled to the Jesus Christ character. Jesus was to become the icon for religious "history", and Caesar was to become the icon for political "history". A "backwards" look at historical events could show The Vatican has successfully implemented the political history ideas singularly in areas where the "religion" conflicts with Christianity, and dually in areas where both could be instilled with little resistance.
The idea is that both characters have little if any verifiable history and seemed to appear from nowhere, or from legendary and mythical creations and are similar to older mythologies.

Others believe that Caesar did exist and was the one who brought the ancient secrets to Rome by acquiring the Library of Alexandria, hence the dawn of modern history. He may have faked his own assassination with a double, or by fabricating the story within the ranks of authors.

Most accepted accounts seem to focus mainly on the reasons for assassination and the after effects rather on whether or not it even happened.

Also, many ancient records from other societies like China, India and others don't seem to have much references to "leaders" even though the trade routes were well established by Roman times. The Chinese records refer to contact with Rome in the 1st century even though trade with the area had existed for many centuries before.

Exploring the truths and fabrications of Rome is difficult. The ancient merchant class had the best professionals money could buy. Hmmmm ... sounds familiar.

I suppose we should see about some verifiable proof.

these videos have some theories.

Google Video Link

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Well said my friend and the video specially the second one is very interesting tks

Hidden historical events are often to help TPTB to control the mass, they know that if they control the past it will be easy to control the future. It's probably the most powerful strategy to control populations.

A discovered clue for a different scenario of Julius Caesar's last official, reported moments is a scenario that was already post in this thread about him being the Mastermind for his disappearance of his last living years, Maybe Julius Caesar bowed out of public life because it was the only way for him to continue to build his Roman Empire due to his deteriorating health condition.

Here is a report from Harold J. Bursztajn, co-director of the Harvard Medical School Program in Psychiatry and the Law at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center since 1982. He also maintains a private practice in Cambridge, Massachusetts

This different scenario is the closest reported probable events to Proto's revelations, exposed in this thread. This thread and himself have been victims of many attacks that could let us beleive he was too close to the truth...

As I reviewed all the evidence, including Caesar’s medical history, a suspicion began to form. Might Caesar, driven by narcissistic concern for his own image and dignity, have engineered his own death? Might a man who had risen to become the most powerful ruler in his world have found it deeply humiliating to lose control of both his sense of continuity in space and time and his body in public? It is reasonable to infer that Caesar would have found it far more painful to be perceived as pitiable and incontinent than haughty and rude. The life choices he faced might have struck him as especially stark: old age and increasing fits, temporal lobe–influenced loss of memory, and even public diarrhea—or a dramatic exit worthy of the most powerful dictator the world had ever known.



Suicide by Cop?

I next raised the question of whether Caesar’s public murder was not simply a narcissist’s suicide, but also a consciously chosen strategic act designed to ensure his succession. One classical historian on our team has argued that Caesar effectively handed the conspirators a deadline when he announced his impending departure for war with Parthia. Garofano noted that Caesar secretly changed his will to name his successor six months before his death—and he left every citizen enough money to live on for three months, guaranteeing a groundswell of mourning and adulation. It does not seem farfetched to interpret these events not as the acts of a man blinded to his vulnerability by his own arrogance, but as the careful orchestrations of someone who, in writing about his life, clearly craved historical immortality.

It is one hypothesis but no more than that; I used forensic neuropsychiatry and psychoanalytically informed decision analysis as ways to open other paths of inquiry, rather than to come to a definitive conclusion. As a working psychoanalyst, I exercise curiosity in the most private of settings about an analysand’s received truths and accepted “absolute” wisdom, to help free the analysand to ask previously unthinkable questions. As a forensic psychiatrist, I work on interdisciplinary teams to explore potential translations between the clinical world of meaning and the legal world of objectivity, to understand the choices people make when faced with ambiguity or adversity.

While the circumstances of Caesar’s death must remain shrouded in speculation, the aftermath clearly dovetailed with his enormous ambitions. Within a few years, every one of the conspirators would be dead, some by their own hands. The Roman Republic, which the killers had ostensibly hoped to preserve, effectively ended with Caesar’s murder. Power passed quickly from the dead dictator to his handpicked successor. Caesar’s grand-nephew Octavius was only 19 at the time of his uncle’s assassination, but as the chief heir to Caesar’s tremendous fortune and powerful family name, he commanded the loyalty of the Roman middle and lower classes outraged by the murder of their champion. He would become Rome’s first emperor, known as Caesar Augustus.

Two years later, his dead uncle would be formally deified as “the Divine Julius,” and Caesar Augustus would take the title of “Son of God.” Every Roman emperor who followed Augustus also adopted Caesar as part of his name until the reign of Hadrian, who designated Caesar as the title of the heir apparent; the imperial use of Caesar would reverberate many centuries after Julius Caesar’s death with the German Kaiser and the Russian czar, cementing a legacy of immortality that perhaps even Caesar himself couldn’t have imagined. But, then again, Caesar had always gotten everything he wanted in life. Why not also in death?