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Truck driver forced to show birth certificate claims racial-profiling

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posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:24 AM
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However, I did not mean that in a racist way.


It was racist and you are showing your ignorance plainly.

I can't wait for the first hispanic cop to detain a white guy...then we will see you SCREAMING how unjust that is.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:29 AM
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exactly. My point being is that profiling happens. All you people flip out when someone doesnt use "political correctness" when they state this wasnt racism as the title of this post implies.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:29 AM
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Coming to a Northern State near YOU!

From Washington, Montana, to.... New Hampshire, Maine....

You a white male? Great, prove you aren't from Canada - show me your birth certificate. Don't have it? Then you are going to jail.

It's not racism, it's the law. If you can't prove you are an American Citizen at any point, then you will be detained. Don't like it? Tough. They're doing it in Arizona, and we are doing it here in Wisconsin.

Now get into the back of my squad car.....are you resisting arrest? TAZER!!!!!

*scurries off to locate original birth certificate*

*scurries back - can't find it, has no idea where it is*

Ruh-roh....

[edit on 23-4-2010 by harrytuttle]



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by harrytuttle
Coming to a Northern State near YOU!

From Washington, Montana, to.... New Hampshire, Maine....

You a white male? Great, prove you aren't from Canada - show me your birth certificate. Don't have it? Then you are going to jail.

It's not racism, it's the law. If you can't prove you are an American Citizen at any point, then you will be detained. Don't like it? Tough. Their doing it in Arizona, and we are doing it here in Wisconsin.

Now get into the back of my squad car.....are you resisting arrest? TAZER!!!!!

*scurries off to locate original birth certificate*

*scurries back - can't find it, has no idea where it is*

Ruh-roh....


This is insane..what I want to know is..what are "they" REALLY afraid of..or hiding.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:32 AM
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Needing a birth certificate is wrong IMO. But having a SS# should be enough. Racism is way too strong a word. Demographic is much more appropriate I believe. So if you are mexican, present a green card, or SS card. If not, meet the INS. Got no problem with it. And what kind of Canadian sneaks into America?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:36 AM
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And what kind of Canadian sneaks into America?


ROFL!! That statement made my night!!!



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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SSC is enough?

I can go down to the local swap meet and get one of those.

BUT...

If you have a drivers liscense and a social security card together, that is more than enough proof of I.D. ESPECIALLY IF he has his SSN on his DL that matches.
If not it shouldnt matter anyways as long as he had both. At least enough to prove to a cop.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:39 AM
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Ok...profiling happens huh?

Well I'm going to profile anyone who wants to deport illgeal immigrants as racists bigots.

And any white male that opposes Obama...racist. Hey...I'm not playing the race card....I'm "profiling".

Oh...and anyone who thinks Chuck Norris is cool...I'm "profiling" them as having latent homosexual tendencies. Nothing personal...just "profiling", hey, it happens.



Give me a break..."profiling" is just a new word for "stereotyping". It is an ignorant and out-dated concept that people of low intelligence rely on to justify their bigotry.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
SSC is enough?

I can go down to the local swap meet and get one of those.

BUT...

If you have a drivers liscense and a social security card together, that is more than enough proof of I.D. ESPECIALLY IF he has his SSN on his DL that matches.
If not it shouldnt matter anyways as long as he had both. At least enough to prove to a cop.


Agreed..and soon its going to sweep across America.."America, home of the free!"



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:40 AM
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SS# would have to be enough. Not everyone is going to have a drivers license. The only other option is the :shudder: national ID card. I would be happy enough personally with green card/ss card. There are always flaws in the system and you can fake a SS card just as easily as a birth certificate.

The more simple plan is to come down on people hiring illegals than searching for illegals but for some reason we are too stupid to take the easy route.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:43 AM
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Well I think this country DOES need to crack down on Illegal Immigration,
But to do so with respect to the people of this nation and also to those who are not. Profiling is not the way to crack down on illegal immigration, there are other ways.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
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Well I think this country DOES need to crack down on Illegal Immigration,
But to do so with respect to the people of this nation and also to those who are not. Profiling is not the way to crack down on illegal immigration, there are other ways.


Well, I guess they can take the place of Americans leaving for other countries..something stinks, and its sure not the people.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Give me a break..."profiling" is just a new word for "stereotyping". It is an ignorant and out-dated concept that people of low intelligence rely on to justify their bigotry.


So is demographic, whats your point? If it isn't a valid tool then it wouldn't be so successful. I profile people constantly by their cars to see if I can guess what area in the city they live in. 90% of the time I hit the nail on the head. Its highly affective because we move around like sheeple. I look at a black guy with FUBU on and he is a thug in my mind. White guy with a tank top on, well thats white trash. Asian guy, smart and can't drive. 10 Mexicans in one minivan, well they are illegal. It is too simple to not be affective. We (and by we I mean you) should consider getting thicker skin.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by ventian
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And what kind of Canadian sneaks into America?


I'll tell you what kind: The crazy kind! Which is precisely why you need to make sure you catch them all and send them back to Canada!

(No Canadians were harmed in the writing of this joke)



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by ventian

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Give me a break..."profiling" is just a new word for "stereotyping". It is an ignorant and out-dated concept that people of low intelligence rely on to justify their bigotry.


So is demographic, whats your point? If it isn't a valid tool then it wouldn't be so successful. I profile people constantly by their cars to see if I can guess what area in the city they live in. 90% of the time I hit the nail on the head. Its highly affective because we move around like sheeple. I look at a black guy with FUBU on and he is a thug in my mind. White guy with a tank top on, well thats white trash. Asian guy, smart and can't drive. 10 Mexicans in one minivan, well they are illegal. It is too simple to not be affective. We (and by we I mean you) should consider getting thicker skin.


Sadly, it's true..we all do it..but to get arrested and thrown in jail is something different. You forgot the overweight white woman with sweat pants on..Food stamp recipient.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:52 AM
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What does this say about us as a society?

Hello, welcome to the human species, earth.
Do you have paperwork proving you were born?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
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What does this say about us as a society?

Hello, welcome to the human species, earth.
Do you have paperwork proving you were born?


Sad, and true..what is left for us now? We are nothing more than puppies in a puppy mill.



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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Which is exactly why we should be busting down the doors of businesses that hire these illegals. Crap like in the OP wouldn't be happening so much.

And you are right I forgot the overweight white women. It may be sad but I can't help how fun it is. White people are by far the easiest to place in a group. (this comes from a white guy btw)

[edit on 23-4-2010 by ventian]



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by ventian
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Which is exactly why we should be busting down the doors of businesses that hire these illegals. Crap like in the OP wouldn't be happening so much.


Then why aren't "they"? Thats why I said..what are "they" really afraid of, or hiding?



posted on Apr, 23 2010 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch

Originally posted by ventian
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Then why aren't "they"? Thats why I said..what are "they" really afraid of, or hiding?


Been trying to figure that out since the Bush administration. I really think it is the small yard businesses and construction is hiring the majority of these people. Maybe they actually think nothing will get done if we boot them out or something.



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