DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office

Originally posted by blah2200Illegals have been running for 100s of years!!! WHERE DO YOU THINK YOUR ALL FROM? Are you all native indians? Your all from from Europe, and England!!!

You think the majority of white people in the US were born in Europe (England?)- are you quite literally insane or have you been frozen for several hundred years?

Another waste of my time.
Spin
Spin
Spin
It makes me sick.

PROOF that will stand on it's own two feet and stop the spin might catch my attention.
Until then, it's off to barf again.

peace

Originally posted by DOADOA
its all about race. i bet if he was white but was born in spain nobody would give a damn about his presidency. some just can't take it.

and others just scream race whenever they get chance and use it as an excuse.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, hence I apologize in advance for repeating someone else's words.

Here is my understanding of the situation.
Barak Hussein Obama or Barry Soetaro (same person) was born in the US. He was later brought to Indonesia to study. He had to become a citizen of Indonesia to be admitted. Back in those days, you could not have dual citizenship, hence Obama had to relinquish his US for Indonesian citizenship. As of this day, rules have changed, you can have dual citizenship with US and Indonesia. Obama's lawyers are trying to retroactively change his single Indonesian citizenship into a dual one.
As far as where he was born, it would be far FAR too easy for the powers to forge this document, put his name into the system and be done with the whole focus-pocus.
Once he has relinquished his citizenship for an Indonesian one, he lost his rights to becoming the US 44th president.

Here is some food for thought; After graduating Harvard's law school, he didn't become a big shot lawyer, he became a community worker or in that vicinity. Why not run for local office ? Why not become an aid to someone in the local office ? Why not run for office locally ? He did run for office after he met his wife who was responsible for clearing candidate's eligibility/papers/citizenship.

I will probably post a lot more info I have on this topic at some later date.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Taikun]

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by SirPsychoSexy
reply to post by Vinveezy

 

Whoops. I thought there was evidence here.

Crap

There is.


Read the second post
????
Profit

Same old tired proof. Posted and debunked time over time. How many times can a Conservative beat a dead horse?

reply to post by Helmkat


if there is nothing to hide then why worry, all the investigations in the world will not remove him will it- at least be thankful you *still* live in a free country where such questions can be asked of your FEARLESS LEADER

I'm amazed no one has posted a picture of a dead horse getting beaten yet, it just doesn't feel like a birther thread without it. I think the only dead horse getting beaten are the people who keep telling us there is nothing to see here and to move along.

Anyone who plays the Race Card is Telling the rest of us they were the one who was not ready for a Black Man to become President.
Simple as that.

It is an American tradition to question what the President does. It does not
matter what color the man's skin is, what matters is can he be trusted. the answer for all modern presidents is No. Not just Obama.

Trust is the issue, with the legitimite question this country has about Obama's heritage, one would think an honest person would become an open book, and through it back in the face of the questioner. Proof of his american hertiage would be a windfall for Obama.
But no proof makes him look weak.

Light Up the Darkness

reply to post by Southern Guardian


ummm, your points are so flawed, but I will only point out one flaw in this post, the quote you brought of losing national identity in the US by having a parent take on naturalization in another nation is not a valid argument because it only adresses the loss of citizenship, not of natural born citizenship.

Jaden

Originally posted by blueorder
reply to post by Helmkat

 

if there is nothing to hide then why worry, all the investigations in the world will not remove him will it- at least be thankful you *still* live in a free country where such questions can be asked of your FEARLESS LEADER

Only people I am worried about are people so deep in their own worldview the truth is forever gone to them. Long ago I predicited these threads would never die, why? because there is no proof short of time travel to watch Obama exit the womb that will satisfy the Birther movement. I have yet to be proven wrong.

Sure you will say "Well I just want to see document X" and when that comes forth? "Well the TPTB can do anything! its fake!" and it just continues on and on and even when the time machine comes along? Well the Birthers will point to something and say "Aha! this is an alternate universe!"

You don't like Obama for whatever reason. We get it, ok?

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Helmkat]

Originally posted by Vinveezy
DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office

Then I wonder why did Congress voted unanimously (including Michelle Bachmann) to pass a resolution that he was indeed, born in Hawaii?

Source

Personally, I think anyone should be able to be president, be it American, Canadien, Ron Paul. So let's stop discriminating based on preconceived notions and elect someone who will really help this country.

Yeah, that web site is extremely biased and at times hateful. I'm all for truth and if it were proven with facts I would support the truth.

However, I'm as likely to believe what canadafreepress says as I am to believe what FOX News says.

Some web sites just shouldn't be used as a source of news.


Kharron



reply to post by David9176




[edit on 22-4-2010 by Kharron]

reply to post by DOADOA


He's as much white as he is black, get over your race issue! He has a full fledged white mother and a full fledged black father, "HE IS AS MUCH WHITE AS HE IS BLACK"... Demanding a birth certificate is not a racial issue, people like you make it a racist issue!!!

Ok guys I do believe that Obama is not eligible BUT just commenting on the article posted alone, all it seems to be is a guy no one's heard of claiming his opinion. No where in the article did I see a citation of where he got his information from that "all branches of government KNOW that Obama was born in Kenya." Why such a big deal about something that's just someone's opinion. Just because it appeared on a blog? I can make a blog too...kind of stupid.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I continue to get a good laugh from this type of posting.

As to all of US being immigrants; the founder of my family in the New World came to these shores in 1563. I don't see how this makes me an immigrant, we were hear before there was a U S A. That makes me love it even more.

As to the President's origin; I can't help remembering that old saying about beating a dead horse. I never thought so many people were able to read minds so well as to KNOW things which others know but have never spoken about.

Do these people think Hillary Clinton or John McCain and the Republican party would stop to take a breath while screaming this aligation for the last two years.

Come on people, if this is all you have to occupy your day, you really need a hobby which will help to stablize your tortured mind.

I have no doubt in my mind that Obama MAY be ineligible for POTUS BUT this Canada Free Press seems more like a blog than an actual news sorce. And speaking of sources there are none in this article. I'm not an Obama supporter but if this is all we have against him then well we have nothing. Moving along now.

Originally posted by Taikun
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, hence I apologize in advance for repeating someone else's words.

Here is my understanding of the situation.
Barak Hussein Obama or Barry Soetaro (same person) was born in the US. He was later brought to Indonesia to study. He had to become a citizen of Indonesia to be admitted. Back in those days, you could not have dual citizenship, hence Obama had to relinquish his US for Indonesian citizenship. As of this day, rules have changed, you can have dual citizenship with US and Indonesia. Obama's lawyers are trying to retroactively change his single Indonesian citizenship into a dual one.
As far as where he was born, it would be far FAR too easy for the powers to forge this document, put his name into the system and be done with the whole focus-pocus.
Once he has relinquished his citizenship for an Indonesian one, he lost his rights to becoming the US 44th president.

Here is some food for thought; After graduating Harvard's law school, he didn't become a big shot lawyer, he became a community worker or in that vicinity. Why not run for local office ? Why not become an aid to someone in the local office ? Why not run for office locally ? He did run for office after he met his wife who was responsible for clearing candidate's eligibility/papers/citizenship.

I will probably post a lot more info I have on this topic at some later date.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by Taikun]

You are actually getting warmer.

Take a closer look at Obama's Harvard years and just how he became President of HLR. In all years prior to his position at the helm of HLR, the student with the HIGHEST academic achievement was hand selected to fill the seat.

The year Obama took the seat, Harvard Law changed the process. It became a writing contest and an actual vote by either the board or actual editors. I can't recall which at the moment. Furthermore, read a little about the racial climate of that era as it applies to Harvard and other Ivy League schools at the time.

Obama oddly chose a post graduation career path that broke the long established norm for past HLR presidents as you indicated in your post. A popular occupation would have also been a clerkship. I believe he walked a predetermined path that led him to Chicago.

Edit to add:
If Obama possessed Indonesian citizenship as a child, it is unlikely he retains such citizenship today. The country's bylaws require any Indonesian citizen living abroad for more than five years to formally declare his/her intention to return or risk losing ones citizenship status. The law does not necessarily mean Indonesian citizenship would be immediately lost. The law can be overruled by ministerial order.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by jibeho]

[edit on 22-4-2010 by jibeho]

Originally posted by filosophia
Personally, I think anyone should be able to be president, be it American, Canadien, Ron Paul. So let's stop discriminating based on preconceived notions and elect someone who will really help this country.

Oh...well if you say so, then to hell with the Constitution, to hell with the republic and to hell with law, let's just do what you tell us to do.

Originally posted by DOADOA
its all about race. i bet if he was white but was born in spain nobody would give a damn about his presidency. some just can't take it.

Sorry, it's NOT about race, John MacCain was not eligible either. He was born in FEDERAL TERITORY in Panama BEFORE it was a military base and THAT does not matter as he is then a "U.S. citizen" NOT born before the ratification of the Constitution and therefore HE is NOT eligible either.

He is NOT a "natural born Citizen" of these united states of America.


Edit to add; just so you know, Federal Territory is property of the U.S. and IS NOT American soil. You must be born on American soil, which means within any of the 50 united states of America, and no where else is acceptable.

[edit on 22-4-2010 by daddio]