Spiritual Awakening- a taste of what it's like

For truth you dont need answers, it cannot be known cos it is like a river flowing, therefore you need to be able to see thruth.
And to be able, one must be free from the known wich is the past.

Originally posted by derickonfire
How come I can't really "understand" this feeling of awake and One without being stoned?

Personally - my answer would be Fear. Fear is a type of control.

Fear of letting go. Fear of ridicule. Fear of being/thinking differently.

Its not easy for some - in their mind - to let go of a concept they've been taught all their life -- and accept something new that is unusual.

Originally posted by godddd
For truth you dont need answers, it cannot be known cos it is like a river flowing, therefore you need to be able to see thruth.
And to be able, one must be free from the known wich is the past.

"Let Go - Let It Flow"

Release all fear and preconceptions.

reply to post by derickonfire


If you have not been awaken yet, just give yourself time.
You do have to "erase your past" in order to see the "new future". When I say erase your past, I'm not saying you have to forget about your past experiences.
I'm sayin that you have to let go, you have to be free from negative feelings, free from vengeance, anger, jealousy and even material attraction from the past. You have to understand that you are One, you are part of a bigger creation, you are eternal. You will live forever.
But really, the best you can do is try to work with your fear. Fear of change.
I used to be much more afraid of change than I am now.
But you are in the right path, be sure of that. Just the fact that you are willing to see the reality the way it is shows that you are a truth seeker.
The Universe works according to our free will, so if you will to do something and are willing to work for it, the law of attraction will be on your side.
Just be patient, meditate, and ask God, your angels, or the Creator for the truth and it will come to you. Just hold your horses until then, because it is a big responsibility to live knowing the truth. You have to have control of yourself, your mind and faith in God/The Creator, or whatever you want to call it. Once you are really prepared mentally/spiritually, you will start to feel the changes in yourself. You will get there, just take your time.

Yours,
Roger Dat.

Awakening is not a evolution in the mind, but rather a inner revolution.
You dont need time to see, perception is..
And to preseive one must be clear, have a clear mind.. not poluted with gods and rituals or laws of atraction or false meditations wich are merely selfhypnoses.
Also there is no path to truth, so dont look for it or think your path is the right one.
You are truth, but the image we have about ourselfs and others is preventing us from seeing that along with traditions religions and so on.

It's late, I hope this post makes sense to you.

At this point in my life the answer is as John Lennon said, the answer is "Yes" and "Love" re: Mindgames. That answers it all. Maybe that is why he was killed, too big of an audience. He was telling us what not to waste our time on and what to focus on; the "yes" answer is what made the difference from the usual "Love" mantra. "Yes" combined with "Love" propels us forward and it is active in our minds and in our lives. If we all moved this way we would see new ways and would clear a path to see who we really are.

STM

www.youtube.com...

Edit to add a lot of explanation, sorry, like I said it is late for a deep discussion like this.

[edit on 4/24/2010 by seentoomuch]

reply to post by seentoomuch


The universe is a one big "Yes"

Can't remember who said that. People like Lennon always get murdered. And that makes them even stronger.

You all made me smile; thank you for the kind responses.

Though, some of you didn't quiet understand my message - I blame myself for not properly explaining. Anyways, I was still able to find guidance from you each.

I do feel a change in myself, but I'm also a huge skeptic, and I tend to question most everything. While trying to be modest, I like to consider myself the most diverse person I know - and being such, I feel that it's hard for me to make a conscious FAIR decision about something without being bias.

I try really hard to see how EVERYTHING interacts with everything else either directly, or indirectly - and perhaps that is why I am having such a hard time?

I'm stressing myself out, maybe I'm trying too hard.

One moment I love God, another moment and I hate it. Sometimes God is a him, or a her, or a feeling, or the contrasting glory of Oneness (yin, and yang, life and death, black and white, mass emotions and contrast all felt at once. I've been there....) Other times, there is no God - period.

Pretty much everything in life that I do goes through the above cycle of rustling confusion and a desperation for stability.

Originally posted by seentoomuch
It's late, I hope this post makes sense to you.

At this point in my life the answer is as John Lennon said, the answer is "Yes" and "Love" re: Mindgames. That answers it all. Maybe that is why he was killed, too big of an audience. He was telling us what not to waste our time on and what to focus on; the "yes" answer is what made the difference from the usual "Love" mantra. "Yes" combined with "Love" propels us forward and it is active in our minds and in our lives. If we all moved this way we would see new ways and would clear a path to see who we really are.

STM

www.youtube.com...

Edit to add a lot of explanation, sorry, like I said it is late for a deep discussion like this.

[edit on 4/24/2010 by seentoomuch]

But again, there is no path to focus on, or to clear in order to see truth.
Clarity comes when seeing actualy takes place without you focusing on something or looking trough sreens of nationalism, religion and tradition, being somebody with succes and all the rest of it.
You already are in truth human and the rest of humankind without all those screens or images, love comes when al those screens and images have fallen away.
Love means living in great harmony wich does not exists, all we know is war and fighting for gods or money.
Love and fighting dont go together, but we fight because we are divided in every way.
So we should see and understand why we are divided and in battle all the time.

reply to post by godddd


we fight all the time because god is the source of everything and god is evil source life, so everything is in opposition with objective stable or certain sense we got each of ourselves realities allowing us to breed correctly and start from to mean more objective clarity

what everyone cant see the logics in what i just said is to what truth logics is completely denied

spiritually god set that all as anything is of will and nothing only is to see when you mean objective perspective
meaning to the extreme that even you dont exist at all while you can be aware of god existence which is ridiculous and clearly revealing the ego of god means, he is so infinite that nothing recognize him and bend infront

when objectively reality is negative it says exclusively that evil life freedom powers is the source of that reality
a thing cant exist but from positive source, a reality objectively is always a thing as a concept existing fact

reply to post by Boypony


It's called Gnosis and it's been going on for all of history.

My exact thoughts were "I had no idea!"

-3G

Originally posted by imans
reply to post by godddd

 

we fight all the time because god is the source of everything and god is evil source life, so everything is in opposition with objective stable or certain sense we got each of ourselves realities allowing us to breed correctly and start from to mean more objective clarity

Please leave the god-image out of it, god is just an invention of men wich is a false truth.

reply to post by imans


"what everyone cant see the logics in what i just said is to what truth logics is completely denied"---------unquote.

what everyone more than likely cant see is correct grammar in your sentence structure. what in non-heaven are you talking about?

[edit on 24-4-2010 by orangutang]

reply to post by derickonfire


surrender certainly helps. be it to a god or a rock, but surrender is the key.

perhaps your mind is especially restless, empty your mind; meditate with increasingly longer periods of time. or search around for a method that suits you, be it candle gazing or chanting mantras or whatever. peace bro-----

yogananda's "autobiography of a yogi" or nisagadatta's "i am that" will show you heaps. try a page of it at your local bookstore and see if its for you. the first is of the devotional path and the latter the intellectual path which will answer hundreds of questions and illustrate the futility of the mind as a master.
good luck and towards the one.

reply to post by orangutang


to me it doesnt matter grammar at all, what matters is the whole living perspective of objective facts, revealing different elements relations in an order that seem freely right point alive

so what i said clearly is that the concept of living one cannot be the truth, you cant say existing because you want to it doesnt make any sense at all willing anything on the contrary is a source of frustrations as you must know

that is why truth is not one source, but it is the one base of fact justifiations as nothing being absolute certainty of truth being positive freedom existance
then anything is justified as positive absolutely freely above positive zero result

reply to post by godddd


hey that is your opinion not mine, and please refrain from saying things thta concern others too when you dont mean to justify anything of

its not a opinion but a fact, no god in heaven creating all this or watching over us
No god, no angels, no spirits, no souls, no afterlife, no guidance from above.
Just the reality here and now, in a world wich is shaped by humankind with greed, anger, pity and so on.

reply to post by godddd


no it is your opinion that say to leave god out of my expressions, it is not your business where i put god in my expressions, and is surely never a fact what you just say about god it is all subjective you are not prooving anything, and even your ways to talk about god as if it is necessarly heavans sources which is not my perspective at all and not what i say about god, just stay out of another free expressions rights and feel concerned to justify yours especially that you mean always to include so much things around that has nothing to do with what you are using it for

Originally posted by godddd

Love means living in great harmony wich does not exists, all we know is war and fighting for gods or money.
Love and fighting dont go together, but we fight because we are divided in every way.
So we should see and understand why we are divided and in battle all the time.

Or we should "see" (with the intuition) that we are not really divided at all, that division is merely a mental trick or construct. The mind divides because it must, in order to process data. It has to say, "this or that," and look at "What Is" in small snapshots. The individual mind does not have the scope or breadth of vision to see things as they really are. But the intuitive mind can sometimes grasp it, and can sometimes "know" that the divisions are only arbitrary and necessary because of the limits of the machinery of the human body and brain.