Spiritual Awakening- a taste of what it's like

Originally posted by 11118

As long as you have Love my friend then all be okay, there is nothing to fear.

We could start a whole new thread on "what is Love".

I have understanding of consciousness.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by 11118

As long as you have Love my friend then all be okay, there is nothing to fear.

We could start a whole new thread on "what is Love".

Baby don't hurt me !
No more.





Sorry


[edit on 22-4-2010 by SpaceGoatsFarts]

[edit on 22-4-2010 by orangutang]

Originally posted by orangutang

Originally posted by WickettheRabbit
reply to post by blujay

 

This sounds very similar to what I was told when I asked my preacher what the point was. Here's how the conversation went.

Me: What do we do when we get to Heaven?
Preacher: Live with God and worship Him forever.
Me: So after spending life here on Earth for X amount of years, if we accept Jesus, we spend ETERNITY worshiping?
Preacher: Yes
Me: To what end?
Preacher: What?
Me: What's the purpose of that?

That's pretty much were it ended.

So...if we are eternal...we are infinite...all that...the only end goal is that it just keeps going. Forever.

Really?

its very difficult to get away from duality. the conversation you describe is in that state. there is a god, a place called heaven, there is a worshiper, there is worshiping.

god is very simple and not divided. it is the mind that divides and asks questions. then mind gives answers. mind sees suffering. mind is temporarily quiet when a desire is satisfied, enabling the peace of your beingness to be felt. then another desire, either attachment or repulsion, arises and the peace is lost. we identify so strongly with mind and body practically all the time. to our own detriment. no experience fully satisfies for long.

i would be suspicious of any answer to the question of purpose. in my opinion it does not have an answer separate from the mind.

when the mind gets out of the way, all questions from that 3D world dream evaporate leaving what was always there, total love and unfathomable peace.

reply to post by orangutang


Excellent, Excellent! point! There is nothing, no idea, that anyone could give to satisfy the question of purpose. The purpose of life? That is for each to find out for themselves because the answer is only found within. The Truth cannot be conceptualized. Your description can also be used to somewhat describe so-called enlightenment. When all the questions, all the duality, just falls away...Truth is left to be seen in all of its splendor.

Originally posted by Puresilence
reply to post by orangutang

 

Excellent, Excellent! point! There is nothing, no idea, that anyone could give to satisfy the question of purpose.

Oh?

Turns out that just such an idea has been given, as far back as the 1930's in science fiction, but formalized as a religious concept in 1950 by Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Read the article (or skim through it at least, I know how short everyone's attention span has gotten these days; I blame the mainstream media) and see if the concept resonates with you.

The people on this thread who've had these epiphanies keep insisting that the truth revealed to them is that they are literally God himself. What if they're right, but our transformation into being God just hasn't happened yet? Couldn't Life be our pre-Godhood university, our evolutionary trudge up Teilhard's Mountain? Many, many people have speculated over the years that life is about learning and growing and developing, and the earth is our classroom. It could literally be true. And once we rise and converge, and become God, we'll need something to do. Wouldn't it be fun to go back in time a few billion years and create ourself, to make sure it got done right and all the evil souls got filtered out so they didn't become part of us? Or, if God creating himself seems like a load of crap to you, why couldn't we go make our own universe and raise a few quadrillion kids to become another God? The universe could be God's womb, nursery, classroom, and coffee filter. And even Hell once the bad souls have all been filtered out. We'll ascend and go on to bigger and better things, and they... well, Hell has been defined as "Eternal separation from God" by theologians. This explanation fits that description. It fits the bill as a Meaning Of Life. It even explains where God came from (or "is coming from", depending on how attached to linear time you are) and why there have been so many different "gods" throughout our history; they could have been created in other universes (or other cycles of this universe) and came here to meddle because we were so interesting back in the day (it can be boring being a God). It covers every base I can think of.

So; how's that for answering the question of purpose?

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by 11118

As long as you have Love my friend then all be okay, there is nothing to fear.

We could start a whole new thread on "what is Love".

I have understanding of consciousness.

Love be derivation of logical-AND,
if simple desire is AND,
then love as heart-desire is AND-ALL,
or intersection, a list of common beliefs,
between now and target destination.

Each entity consists of a set of the beliefs that make up them.
The more two entities have in common the bigger their intersection.
So the act of love can be to increase the amount of things in common.
By adopting a similar something the other entity has,
or giving other entity something you also have.


It's important to also allow for individual freedom,
so self-guided sets could grow,
providing a continual source of new information.

:-)

[edit on 22-4-2010 by lowki]

reply to post by 11118


Which is why I say...just me alone, I am not God. I am of God, but not God as a whole. Its important to not get caught up in this illusion of a separate body, or being separate from the Earth, or being separate from every star that shines....

I only point out that without seeing that all the other selves and life....I am not God.

If I was to get caught up in the 'I am God' then I am forgetting my other selves and the spheres, and the suns, and the mother nature ect....that is also of God.

The Divine Will, for me, is to stay with Earth, till all souls reach their prime image here on this sphere....which is to unite in thought, in love, in forgiveness, in understanding of what are potential is...which is without limits.

I think we are saying somewhat of the same thing...but I have been shown to understand....all people of the Earth, are just another 'part of me' so without them..I am only a part of God.

Thank you for giving us such a good description of what finally encountering the spiritual truth is like.
I went through the awakening process during last year when I came back home after living and studying abroad for a year. I'm still recovering from the shock.
In January of this year I found out about spiritism and ever since then I've been meditating at least three times a week and look forward to doing it more and more. A couple weeks ago I went to a local meditation center with a friend and we experimented '___', also known as ayahuasca, which is legal where I live and helped us expand our consciousness and easier get into a meditational state while listening to bineural beats and indian songs. It was a great experience!
You know...We're going through weird times. The NWO is playing with fire more than ever, hiding information from us like they always have.
Meanwhile, I'm here wondering whether the swine flu is another engineered virus to help dimish the world's population or just another rare pandemic which isn't even serious whose data and numbers are being manipulated by the media and governments for money.
Anyways, I really want to emphasize we are all equal. No matter what color, what nationality, what political view, or religion. We will all reach perfection. It's just that some people are faster and others are slower. It's ok, it's a normal process. People are different and evolve in different speeds.
And we can't judge them for what they believe in but we can still tell people that if they close their eyes at night and try to think of nothing for at least thirty minutes, eventually they will feel their spiritual energy and they will instantly be involved by the spell of curiosity which will hunt their conciousness even in their deepest dreams and won't leave them alone until they find out the truth.
The truth is out there and more and more people are discovering it, or even better, "feeling" it.
Don't let the media with the perfect woman and the perfect man with the perfect bodies destroy your mind and soul.
If we give ourselves time to absorb the knowledge that lies inside us and to accept the consequences and changes that will interfere in our lives after we find out about the truth, the reality will open to us just like when Neo first experienced the reality of Matrix when he fought against Morpheus in the gymnasium. There are more possibilites out there than you can imagine. The universe keeps deeper secrets from us than we can even think about while awake, still, all the truth lies in our subcounsciousness because we know it all. We see it all. We live it all. We meet good friends when we sleep. The truth is finally out there for those who want to sacrifice some of their time to understand it. Because it is much like a new science. It is a whole new field of study that the governments have full knowlege of. They know about spirits and about the other side, the spiritual side. They know about it and they take advantage of the truth. They know how to make money and keep fooling us all by knowing this "incredible secret"(For some people. For me it shouldn't even be called PARANORMAL, but just NORMAL) and using it for their success. They want to keep the world fighting, they want the people depressed, violent, crazy and sick. They want to sell medicines, don't they?
You always should think about this: WHO benefits?
In another note, try not to get paranoid(Difficult, isn't it?). Don't let the truth interfere with your reasoning and judgement.
And we, the ones who were AWAKENED should be aware that we ARE evolving. We are finding out the truth. What some may call Bipolar Mania, I would rather call "Spiritual Enlightenment". When people start feeling these spirits and can't really tell what is really going on, they should just be patient because time will teach them how to receive and accept the new knowledge that their subcounscious have kept hidden from them during their entire lives. Thanks.

reply to post by Roger Dat


"All is vanity".
There's a LOT of that in this thread.
If one really begins to know oneself, you start to feel uneasy, finally getting glimpses of those dark corners you always imagined were not there. But you have to be objective to do that, which is hard as you're such a subjective creature. If you manage it, you might suddenly see that you have nothing of your own. It brings you down to size, quite humiliating really. But are you humble? Are you humble enough to 'inherit the earth'?
Or a poser, a hypocrite?

mclinking

Originally posted by Thought Provoker

Originally posted by Puresilence
reply to post by orangutang

 

Excellent, Excellent! point! There is nothing, no idea, that anyone could give to satisfy the question of purpose.

Oh?

Turns out that just such an idea has been given, as far back as the 1930's in science fiction, but formalized as a religious concept in 1950 by Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Read the article (or skim through it at least, I know how short everyone's attention span has gotten these days; I blame the mainstream media) and see if the concept resonates with you.

The people on this thread who've had these epiphanies keep insisting that the truth revealed to them is that they are literally God himself. What if they're right, but our transformation into being God just hasn't happened yet? Couldn't Life be our pre-Godhood university, our evolutionary trudge up Teilhard's Mountain? Many, many people have speculated over the years that life is about learning and growing and developing, and the earth is our classroom. It could literally be true. And once we rise and converge, and become God, we'll need something to do. Wouldn't it be fun to go back in time a few billion years and create ourself, to make sure it got done right and all the evil souls got filtered out so they didn't become part of us? Or, if God creating himself seems like a load of crap to you, why couldn't we go make our own universe and raise a few quadrillion kids to become another God? The universe could be God's womb, nursery, classroom, and coffee filter. And even Hell once the bad souls have all been filtered out. We'll ascend and go on to bigger and better things, and they... well, Hell has been defined as "Eternal separation from God" by theologians. This explanation fits that description. It fits the bill as a Meaning Of Life. It even explains where God came from (or "is coming from", depending on how attached to linear time you are) and why there have been so many different "gods" throughout our history; they could have been created in other universes (or other cycles of this universe) and came here to meddle because we were so interesting back in the day (it can be boring being a God). It covers every base I can think of.

So; how's that for answering the question of purpose?

sorry my friend but i have to disagree due to the following.
i did have a quick browse. i pulled up short when i read;-

"---and finally with humans, personality, because God, who is drawing the universe towards Him, is a person."

what does de Chardins god eat for breakfast?
and does he excrete waste matter? person indeed! god is a concept of the mind.

"(it can be boring being a God)". boredom is a state of mind. does our god person have a mind that needs regular stimulation? where's he going to get it from? he is after all supposed to be omnipresent, occupying all space.

but back to man. perhaps it is as you say, we are slowly evolving to a higher state of consciousness or godhood. but do you realize that you are saying that gods original creation was flawed. did his hand shake? he didn't get it right?

"to make sure it got done right and all the evil souls got filtered out so they didn't become part of us?" you cant, i believe, exclude the souls that your mind perceives as evil.
eg; i like this part of gods creation, but that other part, no way can i abide it.

i browsed that page but could find no reference to where god came from, maybe i missed it. if god came from somewhere, it implies a greater source. how can a finite mind comprehend the source(if there is one)of the infinite?

gods from other universes? in the final analysis, one must conclude that there is one supreme source or "god" responsible for all laws and creation. one to keep all else in check and harmony if you like. otherwise you'd have chaos when these different forces or lesser gods did their thing. somewhere at the top there has to be a supreme something.
and by definition, it has to occupy all space and be omnipresent. if there was somewhere that it wasn't, or somewhere it was limited(perhaps in an evil soul), then it would not be almighty.

it also has to have all knowledge and all power by the same argument.
doesn't genesis mention something like that? duality is an illusion. but its very difficult to escape from as long as we identify with mind and body.

the vast majority of religions, philosophies and the like are caught in the dualistic trap. so am i, and i strive for an awakening nameste

reply to post by Boypony


Yes, as one who also has awakened, and realize that I am God, and that everyone else is too, but we must realize, that those who have not awakened are not suppose to, at least not until they do, and if they don't in this life, that was not their purpose. Nothing lost. Of course some will react with claims of blasphemy, did they not of Jesus and Buddha? Any spiritually enlightened have always faced these opponents. Why? Because we are a threat to their sleep. Do I still practice meditation? Yes. Why? Because I enjoy it. The ordinary and the extraordinary are one and the same, but only the enlightened can see it.

reply to post by SpaceGoatsFarts


haha oooh yes! That's what i call i conscious song
classic

reply to post by LeoVirgo


You have endless possibilities within you, you are the One Infinite Creator.

I am just saying that you shouldn't cut yourself short, you can manifest all the indefinite miracles that you can dream of.

Every portion of existence can perform these miracles including the dirt on the ground, all that matters is if that portion is aware enough to do so (Yes, even the ground below your feet is aware, although unlike you, it is not self-aware...Yet).

Originally posted by lowki

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by 11118

As long as you have Love my friend then all be okay, there is nothing to fear.

We could start a whole new thread on "what is Love".

I have understanding of consciousness.

Love be derivation of logical-AND,
if simple desire is AND,
then love as heart-desire is AND-ALL,
or intersection, a list of common beliefs,
between now and target destination.

Each entity consists of a set of the beliefs that make up them.
The more two entities have in common the bigger their intersection.
So the act of love can be to increase the amount of things in common.
By adopting a similar something the other entity has,
or giving other entity something you also have.


It's important to also allow for individual freedom,
so self-guided sets could grow,
providing a continual source of new information.

:-)

[edit on 22-4-2010 by lowki]

Love may be seen as the type of energy of an extremely high order which causes intelligent (consciously aware) energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent (consciously aware) infinity in a particular way. All Love emanates from the Oneness. The focusing of Free Will yields Love. It is the force behind the action of your and all else's Free Will including consciousness.

Edit: I wanted to add a significant symbolic point of my above explanation in regards to relationships between entities, the Oneness that is created from these relationships is a prime example of why Love is contained in such. It is the interaction of the Creator with the Creator it is Oneness.

Just as Sol keeps the planets so closely too it with Infinite Love. Oneness.





[edit on 23-4-2010 by 11118]

reply to post by mclinking


Hey mclinking. Thanks for posting. You can't even imagine how I craked up when I read "All is vanity". It just made my day!
I have to admit that my post was a little messy and full of different ideas because when I wrote it last night I was very inspired, yet very sleepy. So the delivery was not the best, but oh well, I tried.
As for what you described as a feeling of having nothing of my own or some sort of humiliation in realizing how small we really are, I used to feel it very deeply, very intensively during last year when I was absorbing the knowledge and studying about spirits and meditation.
Now, I just know how small we are, how powerless we are on Earth. I am humble enough to know I do not know everything and I am sure WE, Human Beings really know nothing about nothing. A lot of people are too blind to feel God, to feel the "chi" energy because of the way we live. Our crazy lifestyle in big cities, always running against time, always full of responsibilities and commitments does not let us see the truth that lies in our mind. When we are encarnated on a human body, we use about 50% of our spiritual will and the other 50% of ourselves we give away to material things, to make ends meet and find a way of surviving. The more one person knows oneself, the more "spiritual will" is used in one's everyday's life.
I have to say, even though I am sure I have been awakened, there is still a lot out there for me to discover. I can meditate for hours and I can feel my "chi" energy flowing from one hand to another just like a psy ball and I can also move a psywheel. When I first started meditating, it would take me about one hour to feel my own energy, now it takes minutes.
I'm looking forward to being able to move the psy wheel under a glass but it will probably take me a while to gather enough ectoplasm. I've read that it can take from six to nine months of meditation in order to move the wheel under a glass, so I'll need more training hehe. But when I manage to do that, I'll post a video of it so you can check it out and see I'm not a poser, not a hypocrite, not wasting my time writing this, even though my last post might have had a few outrageous ideas.
And believe me, all I really wanted is people to see that there is after life. Life is eternal. And I can't wait to gather enough ectoplasm(spiritual energy that can be manipulated and increased through meditation) to do more things with my spiritual will. Also, I think I would enjoy having an out of body experience, even though I do it every night when I sleep but I do not recall much of what happens. You do that too. Maybe we can meet each other when we sleep and have a chat as spirits huh?
Why not? I guess we could learn with each other. =]
Anyways, "All is vanity", haha...
Cheers, man!

Since the thread seems to be winding down I just wanted to thank all the posters for participating...it was a wild ride!
(100 flags-WOW!)
To all of you wanting to awaken- you will....the desire to awaken is a magnet to draw what you need to you. There's no rush...you do have forever afterall!

I believe the Solar System is entering a new energy zone in the galaxy, which is causing all the planets to heat up and will lead to mass Awakening on Earth soon. Some have just gotten a "preview of coming attractions". But as long as you focus on love and the now instead of worrying about doom/gloom, your consciousness will be primed for the big event.

Even if the birthing pains of the new Reality include Earth changes or manmade disasters, do not despair. Sometimes bringing a new life into the world can be painful...but it will be worth it! Keep up the positive energy! Remember that the collective conscious of 7 billion souls create the reality on this planet. The MSM will do their best to crank up the fear factor to try to keep the PTB in control. But one person focused on love energy cancels the fear energy of 100 other people. As more awaken the positive energy will grow into a wave that will flush away the fear like darkness after turning on a light.

As the bible says the change will come in a flash, or like a thief in the night. So don't freak out if you awaken in the middle of the night and some really wild stuff is going down. Just ride it out with confidence and knowledge that the new World will be amazing beyond description. We are so blessed to be the ones to be 3D while this shift is happenning! It's like having front row seats for the best show the universe has ever put on. How cool is that?

Enjoy the Show!!!!

Namaste!
-Boypony

reply to post by AABacon


I understand you. When I was AWAKENED people thought I was crazy and my mother even had to get me into medications because she thought I had gone insane, lol. I wanted everyone, especially my family to feel what I felt, to feel this "spiritual energy" but until now they haven't. Why me????
Why do I have to go through all this suffering, all these nights without being able to sleep, all this anger and rage that can come from inside me like a burst of wind? Still, how can I feel all this love and peace when I meditate? "Why me?" was the first thing that came to my mind. As time passed I learned that it was not my mission to enlighten other people. I was just scaring them, freaking them out. It is still hard for me to live knowing this wonderful, incredible secret that have been kept hidden from me for seventeen years!! But now I understand that all that I suffered, all the depression I used to feel when I was younger, all the hard feelings I had inside me are slowly going away now that I have been enlightened. And now I understand that I should leave people alone and let them live their lives the way they want to, because each person has a different mission to do. Each one has a different journey on Earth. At first, I thought I was cursed, I thought I had gone crazy. Now, I thank God every day for letting me find out the truth. Probably because I asked him so much for it, haha.
Yours, Roger Dat.

How come I can't really "understand" this feeling of awake and One without being stoned?

I've studied it, and written about it - and I have a conceptual understanding, but I lack the emotional feeling associated with the sensation.

As a potential alternative to marihuana - I've decided to study meditation (as I also learn more about eastern religions), but I know it's a few years off until I have adequate understanding that I can apply to my life.

Anyone out there that is in the same boat as me, or anybody that can help?

I yearn to feel this 'spiritual energy' as the man above me names it, and share it with the world. But I am also scared - I've been given the notion that it is not my time, or duty, or place - and that all I am worth is not ready to be called upon yet.

Maybe that's just it? I need to live some more...

[edit on 23-4-2010 by derickonfire]

reply to post by derickonfire


I've been through that too The feeling you get from MJ and meditation is more what I would call inner-peace. It's good but your life should'nt revolve around the search of this feeling all the time. Suffering and hard work is also part of this life unfortunately (or fortunately ?). If you want to experience that feeling more often, what you need is solving your personal issues. Know yourself better.

I wouldn't worry too much about this "spiritual awakening" which is discussed here. If it is supposed to happen in your life, it will. But it's not something necessary. It's more a kind of punch in the face to force you get your life straight. Sometimes it can be nice (if your life is already straight), sometimes it may be very painful (if you have issues you need to work on).

But it's not an objective per se. More a kind of turning point.

My advice to help you find inner-peace would be to live your life to the fullest, to make your dreams come true, to meet as many people as you can and learn from them. Also be kind, honnest and helpful to others. Life will be a bit easier then and your fears will fade away eventually. And don't forget to have good times also ! Sometimes it's good to think about yourself too

The teaching you will get in the end is that life is a gift, every new day is a gift, so be thankful, worthy and make good use of it No need to read book or meditate for that. I'm telling it to you for free And if you reach inner-peace, then shine your light on others. Listen to them, help them if they ask you, love them and laugh with them

Peace

[edit on 23-4-2010 by SpaceGoatsFarts]