Londoners call lack of contrails (Chemtrails), blissful

Originally posted by 911stinks
Call them contrails if you wish, but the fact of the matter is jet exhaust is FULL of chemicals, so, Chemtrails is proper title for the exhaust trails of flying aircraft.

Chemtrails is NOT the proper title for the trails of WATER VAPOR and ICE CRYSTALS left behind flying aircraft. These are CONTRAILS.



CHEMTRAILS are the name given to the supposed DELIBERATE spraying and emission of hazardous or otherwise unknown chemicals to have undisclosed effects upon the people or climate.

I'm not saying that "chemtrails" don't exist. I'm saying that referring to all trails left by aircraft as "chemtrails" is misleading.

The fact that it mentions the people are more energetic immediately caught my eye. What if chemtrails are a plan to lower the frequencies of the masses? All for more gov't control.. ne takers?

And another thing, the author of the article seems to have produced the pictures of their hometown with an attituce of "no chemtrails for once!". Are the chemtrails that much intertwined with everday like there? Are there massive amount of these chemtrails DAILY? If so, there should definately be an experiment measuring thngs like average MOOD and ENERGY of these people.

well NE lancashire [ ribble valley ] is grey , crap cold and damp this morning - visibility = < 150m

so much for the absence of alleged chemtrails " making a difference "

Originally posted by mirageofdeceit

Is it co-incidence that we have clear skies whilst all air traffic is grounded?

I don't think so, even I never appreciated just how much cloud is manmade these days

I do know the Met Office are outrageously wrong with yesterdays and todays weather.

Yesterday, forcast: highs of +14 with some cloud.

Actually: hit +21 with clear skies!

Today, forcast: highs of +14 with lots of cloud.

So far, +12, clear skies and it isn't even 0600 yet!!!!

Where are you? Shouldn't be 12c anywhere yet! Only 2.4c here.

Officially highest temp was 18.4c yesterday, but I reached 20.2c in my sheltered garden (over 2c higher than any local offical figures though)

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
well NE lancashire [ ribble valley ] is grey , crap cold and damp this morning - visibility = < 150m

so much for the absence of alleged chemtrails " making a difference "

Ha! Ha! Another beautiful clear morning here, with just a volcanic haze to the horizon.

Stars last night were definitely brighter than usual, even under suburban light pollution.

We may well have several more days of this too! Though that cold front coming south today will steadily increase cloud across most parts today and tonight.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Essan]

I'm really enjoying the clear skies too. We should make the most of it while it lasts.

It is true that contrails from planes create clouds. There was an article on the BBC website earlier this year that showed satellite images of the trails from a military aircraft over the North sea. The trails gradually spread over the course of a couple of hours and turned into thin cloud cover at high altitude.

This event has to force the government to put more money into aviation in search of a cleaner form of transport.

Admittedly, I have not read all of the replies, but I can relate...

I live in a suburb of Indianapolis and I remember very well the day(and after) 9/11.
I worked outside, laying out and painting parking lots. I remember looking to the sky many times admiring the tranquility. It was almost eerie, but overwhelmingly comforting at the same time.

Odds had it that we had a crystal clear blue sky that day.

I consider it a blessing that I got to experience this in my lifetime.

It was the epitome of atmospheric bliss...

=)

Great! I live in Manchester ( middle of the UK )

Its like the spring days we used to have when I was a kid! Consistent Temp & sunshine,

and yes the air quality has improved these last days 10 fold.

I really don't want the planes to come back! I'd be quite happy crossing the seas by boat, just keep a few planes for business flights & cargo flights.



[edit on 18-4-2010 by TrentReznor]

I live in Nottingham and this is the second completely clear day we've had since Friday, when we learned of the ash on it's way the sky was completely covered in a thick cloud layer but that's gone now, nowhere to be seen. The area I am is quite close to a tiny airport, but the only planes they fly anymore are the old, small ones like biplanes or old world war planes that just cicle around for a bit and go back. Apart from their occasional apearance the noise has completely gone down. I'm loving the clear skies, not too high temperatures, slight breeze and sense of peacefulness that's pervading this area right now.

Now if only we could stop all the cars and other noisy, polluting transports, it would be completely serene.

It can be NO coincidence. The skies are the best i've seen since the 70's - best ever, in fact.

What very disturbing is how obvious the difference is and how obvious the link is to aviation, yet the MSN are not talking about this whatsoever!!!

The headlines still bleat on about airlines losing money and people stranded overseas, but nothing about the most startling effect of all this - the weather.

This meteorological debate is very conspicuous in it's absence...


Mother nature has ingeniously contrived to stop us polluting - long may she reign.


BTW, where has the ATS thread about the volcano gone - it has disappeared from the front page - why? Can anyone here link to it please.

For those who where enjoying the informative debate on the pilot's forum, which a post in said thread linked to, here it is:

www.pprune.org...

Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
did anyone see lots of sattelites tonight in the sky i did there was blooooody loads

Good call, I'm gona be out looking tonight. Along with everyone else I'm loving the no fly situation long and sporadically, so we can get fruit and veg in, may it continue.

God bless Volcano! It cleared our air!

Who would have thought it takes so little...

Originally posted by McGinty
Mother nature has ingeniously contrived to stop us polluting - long may she reign.

Yeah right, let's get back to the stone age, throw all electric equipment out of the window and live in caves, so that "mother nature" can be happy while we live like #.

I for one hope that the volcano stops doing his thing and all the ash clouds (on german news they said there are already two of them) go away. Give me back my airplanes, i don't want to miss the sweden rock festival and my vacation after it (horrible enough, some experts said they could imagine that the clouds stay for a long time, even some months, stopping all flights) and i certainly couldn't care less about a "clear sky", i don't even see it because it's been very cloudy here

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millions of people

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by CAELENIUM
What comes out of the back end of a Jet Engine is merely water and carbon dioxide. Neither of which are toxic. Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide is essential for the continuation of life. Plants die if the carbon dioxide is not present or below a certain threshold.

So now plants need airplanes to survive?

Learn to think for yourself, especially when it's a company or lobbied-out-the-ass government telling you the information. "Skeptics" are never skeptical of the right sources, ie the people who REALLY make the money. They're always skeptical of citizens that have no such millions-of-dollars interest in lying to you.

None of her post suggested an inability to think for herself, in fact she's made some good objective posts around here lately. You've simply picked her out and projected some ideas you hold onto her post. You overlooked the chemtrail comment too

Originally posted by ShadowAngel85

Originally posted by McGinty
Mother nature has ingeniously contrived to stop us polluting - long may she reign.

Yeah right, let's get back to the stone age, throw all electric equipment out of the window and live in caves, so that "mother nature" can be happy while we live like #.

I for one hope that the volcano stops doing his thing and all the ash clouds (on german news they said there are already two of them) go away. Give me back my airplanes, i don't want to miss the sweden rock festival and my vacation after it (horrible enough, some experts said they could imagine that the clouds stay for a long time, even some months, stopping all flights) and i certainly couldn't care less about a "clear sky", i don't even see it because it's been very cloudy here

Why do some people like turn other's statements into something that simplistically suits their argument?

Please read my post again and note that i didn't advocate a return to the stone age, but am acknowledging the obvious changes in the British climate (which surely can be no coincidence).

I'll state my point again, since you have had trouble comprehending it, despite it's clarity: If jets are causing such an obvious and fairly massive change in our climate, then i say we're better off without them. And for those who care for the possibilty that the planet can play a reactionary role in it's own eco-systems, then perhaps there's some internal logic to the volcano's activity.

I'm sorry it may ruin your rock concert and vacation, but when comparing your hardships to the scenario i just suggested, well to put it plainly, get a life!


EDIT: BTW, on the flip-side, there's some credence to the talk of ash particles in Britain and elsewhere: For such a 'blue' day i'd expect to see at least twice as far as i can right now with binoculars. This isn't heat-haze effect, since i'm familiar with that and it's not very hot out - in fact a little chilly.

Also, last night there was no cloud, yet there were very few stars visible - normally i'd see far more, even with some cloud around.

Still no sulphar smell though


[edit on 18-4-2010 by McGinty]

Originally posted by theinfernal


“Since the 19th century the ice caps in Iceland have been shrinking yet further,” said Hooper. “This will lead to additional magma generation, so we should expect more frequent voluminous eruptions in the future.”

Off topic but more evidence that man made global warming is bs. Climate change has been happening all by itself for eons.














[edit on 18-4-2010 by bigyin]

Originally posted by jumpingbeanz
about 10pm there was loads about 6 in the space of an hour, how do you tell if it is a satellite?

I found this very good for what is going on in the skies above.


www.spaceweather.com...

Geoengineering Strategies
Among all geoengineering schemes, those currently considered most feasible involve
increasing the planetary albedo, that is, reflecting more sunlight back into space before it
can be absorbed. There are a number of different methods that could be used to increase
the planet’s reflectivity:
1. Add more small reflecting particles in the upper part of the atmosphere (the
stratosphere which is located between 15 and 50 kilometers above the Earth’s
surface).
2. Add more clouds in the lower part of the atmosphere (the troposphere)
3. Place various kinds of reflecting objects in space either near the earth or at a
stable location between the earth and the sun.
4. Change large portions of the planet's land cover from things that are dark
(absorbing) such as trees to things that are light (reflecting) such as open snowcover
or grasses.

Originally posted by DangerDeath
God bless Volcano! It cleared our air!

Who would have thought it takes so little...

I was curious about this too and had a look to see if the air is cleaner. I checked out the air quality of London and it doesn't seem to have made any noticeable difference.

* Pollution Graphs » 30 day graph for Thurrock London Road Purfleet » All species data

* Air pollution levels recorded on Sunday 18 April 2010

The air of London seems to be as clean or dirty as it usually is...seems consistent. It would've been better to find a significant improvement in air quality