I helped Obama campaign staffer Divorah Adler create a fake birth certificate [HOAX]

Originally posted by Anti-Evil
why did Obama have a fake BC on his offical Website

You've said this a couple times and I don't remember hearing about him posting a fake on his website. Are you talking about the one he released as real or something else?

Oh yes...KINKOS...where all government officials get their falsified documents.

I've heard some stupid theories on this site...but this one has got to be top 5.


And I'll say it again...I love how birthers will 100% trust completely unverifiable sources (this kinkos chick, one line in a speech made by a in Kenya, or a hand written kenyan school registration form).

But they don't believe a TON of credible sources from the United States.


In short...birthers believe Kenyans more than they do Americans....so even if their theory was correct (which it is not)....you would think they would LOVE Obama

The birther's nonsense to prove Obama is not a legit citizen will never end. How do I know? Because these threads keep making front page, no matter how illogical they are.

Thanks.

reply to post by Target Earth


1) 10% unemployment
2) best paying jobs in America are from Uncle Sam

are just two, I had more but thought they were too anti-Obama so I deleted the ones about him being a homosexual. a drug user. a lying sack of Diarrhea. to keep this thread civil.

Originally posted by Target Earth
What I have yet to understand is why so many people get so worked up, defending Obama.

I'm not worked up at all. I injured my back Friday, so I actually have to take it easy. This is called researching and finding the truth, not "getting worked up".

Why would anybody be so Pro-Government If you are a member of a conspiracy site, and be totally for big government.

Searching for the TRUTH does not equate to being pro-government or for big government. Even supporting Obama does not mean that one supports the government.

It seems Pro Obama people have this gift for spin... They argue about how there is no difference between the parties, and They all our all the same.

You are mistaken. While some Obama supporters may argue that there is no difference between the parties, others definitely see a difference. Your generalizations are actually incorrect.

High-ranking Obama staffer goes to a maker of fake ID's for college students, in order to perpetrate the counterfeit of the century. A maker of fake ID's who has difficulty putting together a grammatically correct sentence? Nice try. Ok, not even.

BTW - even if smoking gun proof were obtained of this conspiracy, IT WOULD CHANGE NOTHING. He is in there. He isn't leaving. I don't believe he was born here, but I don't think it matters anymore - we have been steam-rolled on this one people.

I believe Obama was not born here, too much evidence so I'm what the brainwashed sheep would call a "birther".

With that said however, some of the brainwashed sheeple in this thread have a point, do you really think if such an elaborate scheme was really made that they would entrust the whole crux of it to some damn local at a Staples or Kinkos or whatever she was working at? Come on...that's a little unbelievable. Most people here claim on a daily basis that Obama is a CIA agent and his whole campaign is a giant psyop and all sorts of things, you don't think some specialists from CIA/DARPA/MAJESTIC 12/WHAT HAVE YOU would make a believable birth cert. for him? Instead it's some kid at kinkos? Come on...
I would LOVE for this to be true. I would love to see Obama impeached because I know he's hiding something but this just seems so implausible as to be outrageous.

Another conspiracy would be people being pushing a foreign agenda by disrupting the government, creating dissidence, and ultimately destroying our republic from non-fact conspiracys...
Do you know flat out that the birther movement isn't originated from say...iran or north korea?

To me, this smells of a foreign war tactic, spreading disinfo and populous violent uprising on a lie...how is that not worthy of a conspiracy website.



Another conspiracy would be that the Illuminati are trying to do it to forge a New World Order. If tensions escalate enough among the Birthers, false flag units could be sent in to infiltrate it and kill people. Then we would have civil war on our hands. A never ending civil war (on terrorism) on our own soil. It will never be won because both sides of the attacks will think the other did it, when the whole time it was a 3rd party, like 9-11. Civil wars will be all over the world. This is the goal of the New World Order, if I am not mistaken.

Originally posted by DJW001
Chanise Foxx does not exist. Try looking her up in the phone directory. She joined MySpace three days ago, but not Facebook. Do real people post on MySpace these day? In any event, please read this:

ohforgoodnesssake.com...

Also:

“As I’ve been making fake IDs part-time for local college students for about eight years now, faking a birth certificate was actually quite easy."

No real person would announce something like that so openly. She's not afraid of being arrested or fined, because she's not real.

Use your heads guys, instead of just latching on to things you want to be true.

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Risen]

reply to post by rufusdrak

I believe Obama was not born here, too much evidence so I'm what the brainwashed sheep would call a "birther".

Please go make a thread of the "too much evidence" that he was not born here.

I want you to make a new thread so we can just debunk that one too and send it to HOAX.

www.politifact.com...

this is the link that use to lead to Obama's Website, and it was sourced by Worldnetdaily and as soon as it was published we bashed it here on ATS.
and well thats the link to the link to Obama's BC. or where it use to be.

and here was another link to his original website -
www.honoluluadvertiser.com...

STORY NOT FOUND... has the story went away or the evidence of a conspiracy has disappeared...??? you be the judge.

[edit on 12-4-2010 by Anti-Evil]

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
The birther's nonsense to prove Obama is not a legit citizen will never end. How do I know? Because these threads keep making front page, no matter how illogical they are.

Thanks.

ATS is neutral...anyone can make a thread, pro or anti anything..so ATS is not pushing an agenda.

However...

The people...the vocal fringe minority..will always be louder than the thoughtful majority...

This will happen now, and should the tides turn and you got Palin in the whitehouse,congress very right of center, the liberals will suddenly be flooding the conspiracy boards with this and that, and the one loud anti-obama people will either be very quiet, or go into apologetic mode.

It is good to have a loud minority however, else we become to trusting of what the majority is being spoon fed. I personally think this whole birther thing is stupid and a complete distraction hoax, but the same people pushing this movement do occasionally add something that is concerning..

like

Why hasn't obama ripped apart the patriot act and dulled its impact...or why hasn't obama simply went ahead and closed gitmo without a fight...if the right is blocking it, then just pass it through. He will win no friends by caving into opposition when he was elected by a majority to persue his plans...the minority opposition will oppose his move and effectiveness..that is sort of their job. Bipartisanship is a myth...its a contest, not for the betterment of America, but to stand ahead of the competitors as a better ideal for America.

I blame Clinton!

reply to post by Anti-Evil


Hold on...Anti-Evil...you need to do a better job investigating your sources before posting something.

I just realized that you were the one that brought us the gem that Obama wanted to change the National Anthem to 'I'd like to teach the world to sing'....which was pulled straight from a chain email.

THREAD

Look...we get it...you HATE Obama...but you shouldn't knowingly spread lies.

Originally posted by whiteraven
reply to post by DJW001

 

I honestly have no idea what to believe concerning President Obama.

Why not just come out with whatever evidence he needs to shut the so called birthers up??

Am I missing something....honestly...?

And if their was a shred of evidence concerning his Kenya birth why don't the republicans put forward some convincing evidence?

Yeah, you missed it, he did come out with the evidence. His birth certificate. It doesn't work, they just yell fake.

Birthers!!!! Get the birthers!!!! Lets call them names, chastise them and say how we have so much proof of his eligiblity even though we never cite anything other than a simple Hawaii BC claiming he was indeed born! Wait, it doesn't specify Hawaii? Your only saying that because you are a birther!!!

I swear these idiots use circumstance as excuse, while excusing themselves for their circumstance. Why have birthers been labelled as outcasts, while the thick-headed bastards who spew venom on them do not even have ground to stand upon. Saying "show me proof" to a birther is fine, birthers would LOVE to be able to give you hard evidence and attempt to, but those on the other side who chastice them rely on one single SUSPICIOUS BC from Hawaii claiming he was born, not necessarily there mind you, and prop it up like it is the last word? It is very easy to defend a lie with a lie, but God forbid they actually find the long form certificate to end the issue.

But no, lets just divide ourselves further and keep screeming Birthers and kool-aid drinkers!!!!! HAVE WE ALL GONE MAD!?!

reply to post by SaturnFX


I don't really get to worked up, either way about his Birth Certificate. It really doesn't matter. My Question isn't his citizenship, it's his Agenda. I feel The whole Birth Certificate is a distraction to what is really going on.

I would like to make myself understood. I dont give a rats ass to who is in the office. it what he is doing in office. and how he got there that has me disturbed. whether he is black male or female has no bearing on my decision making. if you take the wrong street, your going in the wrong direction. and in my opinion - We Took The Wrong Street and the cab driver is not turning off the meter and not heading towards my destination.
and the cost of arriving is more than I have. what should one do...?

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Benevolent, I love the way you are the voice of reason. You always come up with logical explanations to consider. It seems as though you always exonerate Obama. I see no problem with this.

I just wanted to ask you something. Do you find anything strange with this guys past? Is there anything out of place as far as you can tell or have you looked into his past and feel as though he is who he says he is? I find it strange that no one ever heard of him before he wanted to run for President.

Seriously, I never heard of him until he was on Oprah one day. Is the birth certificate thing still an issue or do you feel as though what was presented is good enough? Are you confident that we are not being set up with a stooge of some sort?

I've looked into the matter myself and found quite a few strange things. I have since come to believe that he is a reincarnated mummy that the elites need to fulfill some ancient rite. This is my own opinion on the matter and I'd love to hear yours.

How and why do you defend the official story of Obama?

[edit on 12-4-2010 by jackflap]

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


I dont generate any media other than my own., BornPatriot on YouTube.
one video. enjoy. and I was going to break Terms and Conditions but decided your just not worth it.

Originally posted by Target Earth
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

I don't really get to worked up, either way about his Birth Certificate. It really doesn't matter. My Question isn't his citizenship, it's his Agenda. I feel The whole Birth Certificate is a distraction to what is really going on.

His agenda?

Simple...he campaigned on it, he spoke it loud and clear through numerous stump speeches...it is a left of center agenda (just barely left of center)..the right see things differently, they are offically right of center (just barely), yet if you listen to the two argue at each other, you would think the differences are a choice between stalin socialism and theocratic anarchy

Its a ruse...America is pretty much lock step down the center, but their brain gets soo twisted by the sides that they feel forced to take a side and then see the other side (arms reach away) is some sort of unholy crusade to destroy America.

I am no different here...I freely admit that I am on the left side of this spectrum, but only in social matters...fiscally I am center/center-right...but nobody is center/center-right fiscally (except the radicals like Paul, Barr, etc)