The New Religion

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


actually, if you think about it, that sounds more like god than anything we have in our consciousness...

a being that doesn't want in anything; i.e. devotion, worship, sacrifice, faith, etc...

a being powerful enough to give complete autonomy to his creation...

now that's an almighty being...

reply to post by lowki


Actually there is something that needs to be thought of here, that is even more important than surviving and thriving after the event. Though we're talking in different ways about different time periods, mine is related to pre event.

We need to advance beyond this 3D school, beyond being trapped under the thumb of the reptiles sending the signals in. And in order to go beyond this, its about love, unity, doing the right thing, caring about Africa, the homeless. For those aware it even is renouncing their Saturn codes in everything. For many its awakening, becoming our true selves and remembering everyone and LOVE, because they're precious. I have had experiences beyond, and this universe isn't our home, its our school. And we have to know that if we are on the right path and yearn for a truly caring advanced equal world, we will be helped. We are but 0.000000000000000000001% of ourselves, our Higher Selves are 111111111111111111.1111111111111111111% and really they are the ones managing our lives, and waiting for our signs to advance.

Of course preparing for the afterwards, if that is the path our Higher Selves intends, and bringing together all good, wise ideas, for a future, this is good. But while seeding the forrests is an excellent idea I wont seed a new era of violence, discord and abuse of nature. Its time to go, zero point energy, or harvest solar, wind, and go with nature, as our teachers, and friends. And develop our psi and telepathy to the Highest levels.

While disasters could turn mad max scenarios everywhere, and I've been told of visions, and also contact regarding this, by friends, we need to encourage and stand for unity, and inclusiveness.

We need to become Ourselves here, and this means, we will experience the help we require on many different levels along with any plans we have.

To Infinity & Beyond!


Edit to add: We to see the world, this matrix truly, and whats under it, the empire, so we can begin the process, discover and find our HS and discover who we really are and our TRUE INFINITE nature will figure it out and turn away from the Empire. Because this is really about freeing this planet.




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www.youtube.com...

It's all about the new religion, the same "old" religion that's been going on for forever!

S&F

reply to post by HappilyEverAfter


Now that is a catchy tune really brings to light the fears people see in themselves, and others. It seems they even named it the inevitable nwo. The fear of the unknown future.

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
www.youtube.com...

It's all about the new religion, the same "old" religion that's been going on for forever!

S&F

Well they say you really can't reinvent or improve upon the wheel, though I think Krispy Kreme got pretty darn close with the Glazed Sugar Donut!

An edible wheel!

Much like my Bell Bottom Jeans and Velour Shirts, sooner or later everything comes back around again!

Thanks for posting the link and sharing!

new religion... The jews would prob. be the first to bow to it..


It wold more then likely be a ET contact..


just my opinion...

logical...

reply to post by Bicent76


I think in the past what we have seen is that people bow to new religions either because they are forced too, or because there is some percieved advantage in the religion.

When we had multiple Gods people chose a patron God much like you might have a favorite politician or musical act.

People tended to respect all the Gods but if you were a farmer you might be more inclined to give the Rain God or the Sun God more attention.

Catholics and other Christians still kind of have this same concept going with Patron Saints.

I think if everyone saw an advantage in a New Religion they would seriously consider it, though people do get attached to what they already know and feel they have.

We have though seen many religions basically say convert or die, and that's always a big concern when it comes to a new religion.

There is and has never been much freedom in religion, a Rabi is not going to tell you Christianity is right for you, and a Christian is not going to tell you Islam is right for you, and an Iman is not going to tell you that he thinks you would be better off as a Mormon.

I think more than anything Beings from another planet might end up dispelling the Christian concept of God, first and foremost because the Bible makes no mention about God creating other intelligent beings on other planets. Further if the Aliens had a different religion with especially multiple Gods and they were more advanced than us, and the Christian God didn't smite them down upon arrival it could have a big impact on the Religious Status Quo.

Though I tend to believe if a space ship landed anywhere on Earth in the first group of people at it's door would be people holding Talmuds and Torahs, Bibles and Qurans, looking to convert them right away!

Thanks for posting.

reply to post by lowki


I'v been looking at your Open Source Ecology link, and the atom/tribe thing and this can work with the curent model of big government, infact the only reason the gov is so big, slow and stupid is because we have left our heritage behind in a attempt for mass modernising thinking it would come by implementation of stuff that does not exist yet and thinking that a slow as a snail machine the gov can give it to us. Humans throw away there workable past for promises of a future from a system that can bearly keep itself going the problem is at the rootes of this system the rootes are false they dont stabilise the tree they dont dig deep enough thats why the tree government is so easy to topple. With this atom tribe thing both can coexist with benifits to eachother in any age as long as the space between them is left as it is 'space'. It really neads to go to a grass roots system that is better informed

.."Not how you think God might want it, but how you would want it? .."

Irrelevant proposal for any Jew or Christian and probably a muslim.

What 'we' want IS the new religion! ie 'self' is the biggest religion on the planet.

reply to post by daggyz


Worship of self, and service to self, might not work so good, if it created a total disregard for others.

Of course thats been a big problem with the 'me' generation, and the Ruling Elites for the most part of any generation.

I think for most Muslims, Christians, and Jews, that there have been moments in life where at one time or another that they have questioned their faiths. Maybe not long moments, but they say even Jesus was tempted at a certain point, in his wanderings.

So I think its possible for most people of those faiths to think out of the box when it comes to a purely hypothetical question.

Whether they want to, is another matter, but I am inclined to believe they are capable of it.

At least I hope so.

Thanks for posting.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


The word 'Self' is something that is interchangeable with the 'Soul', the soul being the 'true self', 'higher self' or 'real self'. So essentially the self denotes nothing but the soul in each and every human being which causes us to function.

Most of the teachings/doctrines of all religions on the planet are filled with things that are metaphorical/allegorical/symbolic things. Very few things are literal. The basic teachings are also a few.

The things that connect all religions on the planet are worship/acknowledgement of the soul, universal concsiousness, the observer, the on looker, the most high etc. The origins of all of this is ancient Egypt.

The Sun is symbolic / representative / signifies 'Civilization'. The Moon is symbolic / representative / signifies 'Religion'. It is essentially the 'Mandala' that is the cause of all things i.e everything has been placed in specific places and evolves as such for specific reason. The best religion would be the religion of ancient Egypt especially the one that evolved from the phoenicians that involves the heiroglyphs as well as the doctrines that contain the phoenetic script.

reply to post by CuteAngel


Thanks for that explanation CuteAngel, I just want you to know upfront, that if I have any say at all in regards to the New Religion, all the old Angels will get to keep their jobs, or at least get a handsome severance package and job referral assistance.

I don't know much about the ancient Egyptian Religions, but I do know a little about the various Sun Cults, and Egypt and Troy's fascination with Sirius the Dog Star.

It's kind of ironic in a way, we expect lawyers, politicians, bankers and even doctors to lie to us, but the Priests may in fact take the cake, so many things have been hidden in regards to just what is being worshiped and how in regards to Catholicism and much of Christianity.

Honesty in religion is something I would love to see, in a New Religion.

Thanks for posting and sharing.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by lowki

 

Actually there is something that needs to be thought of here, that is even more important than surviving and thriving after the event. Though we're talking in different ways about different time periods, mine is related to pre event.

atom-tribes are applicable in a pre-event.
can set up while we still have a working infrastructure and transportation system.

We need to advance beyond this 3D school, beyond being trapped under the thumb of the reptiles sending the signals in. And in order to go beyond this, its about love, unity, doing the right thing, caring about Africa, the homeless.

to help them,
we first have to help ourselves.

giving them economic-slavery like that be in the west,
has already been done.

wheras before they were hunter-gatherers
with abundance of food and time
and work days of 3-4 hours.
living in relative peace amongst each other.

now they are slaving away on chemical plow agriculture,
or driving around shooting each other up with AK-47's,
frequently on the brink of starvation.

oh how we "helped" them.

first we've got to fix things here,
forest gardens and fab labs in atom-tribes seem to be
a relatively easy self-sustaining route.

once we have it developed we can give it to africa.
some places in africa already have fab labs,
some have forest gardens, and some have tribes,
but it's typically not in one convenient unit.

For those aware it even is renouncing their Saturn codes in everything. For many its awakening, becoming our true selves and remembering everyone and LOVE, because they're precious. I have had experiences beyond, and this universe isn't our home, its our school. And we have to know that if we are on the right path and yearn for a truly caring advanced equal world, we will be helped.

Well I'm not really sure which species or organization you're referring to.
Alliances are certainly conceivable,
but I think many organizations underestimate the complexity of earth.

it's somewhat a microcosm of the universe.
or at least the galaxy.

We are but 0.000000000000000000001% of ourselves, our Higher Selves are 111111111111111111.1111111111111111111% and really they are the ones managing our lives, and waiting for our signs to advance.

I'd like to interject here,
in Michael Newton's book of much witness testimony I read numbers closer to 20% to 40% of our soul is engaged in our host-body.

though there are "higher entities" and there's an infinite amount of them in the multiverse,
though probably a finite quantity at any given instance,
especially if we localize it to a small area.

my main spirit guide is a high 5th or low 6th density Sirian. she likes to say "5th going on 7nth"
I have higher spirit guides, just they do things which don't much relate to earth, such as managing nebulae star formation.

Of course preparing for the afterwards, if that is the path our Higher Selves intends, and bringing together all good, wise ideas, for a future, this is good. But while seeding the forrests is an excellent idea

yay!

I wont seed a new era of violence, discord and abuse of nature.

well that's kinda what we're moving away from.
to a more natural life-style, like nature.

If you've seen nature, you'll notice it's peaceful the vast majority of the time,
unless someone is hungry, then there is some hunting or gathering.

as regrettable as it maybe to some purists,
there are animals that eat plants,
and animals that eat animals.

Its time to go, zero point energy, or harvest solar, wind, and go with nature, as our teachers, and friends. And develop our psi and telepathy to the Highest levels.

sure, all great points.

careful with the zero-point energy though,
since that's kinda what blew up maldek.

While disasters could turn mad max scenarios everywhere, and I've been told of visions, and also contact regarding this, by friends, we need to encourage and stand for unity, and inclusiveness.

In Canada we have just that :-).

We need to become Ourselves here, and this means, we will experience the help we require on many different levels along with any plans we have.

To Infinity & Beyond!


Edit to add: We to see the world, this matrix truly, and whats under it, the empire, so we can begin the process, discover and find our HS and discover who we really are and our TRUE INFINITE nature will figure it out and turn away from the Empire. Because this is really about freeing this planet.

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right,
but first you gotta free yourself,
and those with you.

free from the dependence on the "economy" the food and products it provides.
the food is steadily getting more poisoned, and the products frequently have associated waste.
self-sustaining and reliant, we with you can do it,
forest garden, fab lab, atom-tribe.



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Originally posted by reject
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

actually, if you think about it, that sounds more like god than anything we have in our consciousness...

a being that doesn't want in anything; i.e. devotion, worship, sacrifice, faith, etc...

a being powerful enough to give complete autonomy to his creation...

now that's an almighty being...

Thanks :-)

I hope you like the complete autonomy of your atom-tribe.

Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by lowki

 

I'v been looking at your Open Source Ecology link, and the atom/tribe thing and this can work with the curent model of big government,

ya, it can.
it's quite a versatile system.

infact the only reason the gov is so big, slow and stupid is because we have left our heritage behind in a attempt for mass modernising thinking it would come by implementation of stuff that does not exist yet and thinking that a slow as a snail machine the gov can give it to us.

agreed it's time to move back to self and local-community reliance.
indeed we have the technology to provide for ourselves at the atom-tribe level.

Humans throw away there workable past for promises of a future from a system that can bearly keep itself going the problem is at the rootes of this system the rootes are false they dont stabilise the tree they dont dig deep enough thats why the tree government is so easy to topple.

well it is quite heavy,
I hear the congressional records have petabytes of data.

With this atom tribe thing both can coexist with benifits to eachother in any age as long as the space between them is left as it is 'space'.

Well currently the only options seem to be to get plots of land,
while not immune from government molestation,
what is?

There is the alternative of setting up a floating island in the ocean.
seasteading.org... a place for such related innovation.

If floating on the ocean, it is possible to get a 30km radius around yourself,
can have a renewable energy powered sailboat robot to continuously patrol the circumference like an electron. Potentially engaging intruders, but at least informing home base.

Indeed a plan of mine be to get or build a boat,
then go around various areas to harvest food,
collect seeds and seedball for future.

having a remote hard to get to location as a land base.
for storing various things that either don't fit on the boat,
or would be more secure on land.

It really neads to go to a grass roots system that is better informed

Ya, openfarmtech.org... is probably currently the most cohesive source of information in what's currently being done.

I've already made a picoturbine, to get the basic concepts of electric wind-energy,
as well as started to build my first usable boat (built some models earlier).

purchased some robot parts to introduce me to it societyofrobots.com...

I'm currently mainly working on a forest garden I'm setting up in an unused field.
I go there with seeds, some bought, some saved from food, or gathered from nature.
then make and distribute seedballs, I developed a simpler way, where I mix the seedball and wet soil in a plastic bag, then go about the field pricking out seedball sized portions and throwing them, the heat and sun typically hardens them, though they can sprout as it is spring.
I bring along treats, like tea and fruits to reward myself at key times.
Self-motivation is a big part of self-reliant lifestyle.


You can get started now. :-)
It's that easy.

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You have been using your time guite well lowki person, I on the other hand have my thoughts scatered in a thousand directions and usually end up doing nothing. When they gather ill follow some of your advice. Be more like lowki.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT!
Great stuff....

I do have a thought that KILL's me...

When you try to explain to people that the options and our future are in our own hands, well..

"thats the devil"
"yur put'n yurself before gaud"
"you got to turn it over to gaud"
"let six pound blue eyed beautiful baby jesus lead you"
"god wants this, god wants that"
"MY god is bigger and can beat up your god"

I can answer with "Pale Blue Dot" (EVERYTHING WE ARE AND HAVE EVER BEEN HAS HAPPENED HERE ON THIS EARTH ALL OF OUR KNOWN HISTORY IS RIGHT HERE) and say this to those people who are holding us back with their outdated dogma's.

STOP BEING SHEEP! The only reason your church tells you to leave it up to god is because your "holy" men are the ones telling you what god wants and means. THUS controlling you through your spiritual beliefs, sending you to war, depriving people of health, food and education. CONTROLLING YOUR LIFE.

SEE; through the ego in religion, its kind of simple to find it, ANYTIME your religions places you above another, tells you that your right and they are wrong, tells you that you should hurt instead of help, tells you that something is evil and what to do instead, tells you to fear god or tells you to suffer for something... THAT's not God that the egoic mind of man (THE REAL DEVIL) who wrote the rules to control you and the masses.

I dunno about you all but the God that created the universe and knows all and see's all and is all powerful and understanding and forgiving and loving, doesn't throw tantrums, doom people to suffer eternally, kill to prove a point and destroy because he is not in the lead for thank-you's and the popularity contest, I mean REALLY if there is only one god who is he afraid of?

My god = your god and their god and everyones god. WE MUST FOCUS ON WHATS THE SAME not where we are diff. We must stop giving god human-egoic attributes full of fear, anger and destruction and instead realize the BEAUTIFUL creative, loving and accepting force in god/nature.

When we change our mental picture of god from that mean ol'man that says listen to me or I'll kill you , and start seeing "god" as a loving creative force, allowing us to learn and grow, then that force moves us and becomes through us.

Namaste friends. May peace be upon YOU!

reply to post by lowki


I understand the points you're making, I'm not sure you're understanding mine. Though again, your answers are good. What is being attempted is called a negative harvest, and that is one of the things we're here for. Our Higher Selves, are Beyond, they're not in this digital hollogram universe. I've had connections to beyond the space time dimensions/and frequencies here. There are many ways to be free. The freedom from a system of corporate/fascist slavery is in the physical sense, without money, clean technology, development of psi and connection to ourselvses, as opposed to any religion.

But this is all illusion, and there is a greater freedom, its our soul's progression, advancement and moving off this system.

I'm also always curious what people really think is coming. For example, many of us discuss eco villages, and a new way of living, clean natural technology, but progressive, and freedom.

In reality, has anyone forgotten that they've built bases that house up to 14% of the population, very high tech and take over Northern BC and Alastka, and North West Territories, in many areas, erected a black phallus symbol in beautiful Atlin BC, these arent going to be safe for ordinary civilians soon.

Basically with their technology they will be mapping the surface and watching everything on screens possibly even placing bets on situations like evil felons. Do you really think we will have a new world in the end, after the mad max scenario tapers off, when a huge segment of society, the arch villians, and all their propreity technolgoy and ets/reptilians/hybrids are there?

Not a chance! This isn't about souls staying for another 26 000 years, this is about graduation time, moving on from a low level, harsh duality slave planet, to better options and vistas. And thats why many of us, from outside, are here inside this sytem.

reply to post by Unity_99


WOW agree'd the ascension is at hand, maybe thats what they meant by the rapture except you don't need a superhero jesus but to be Christ minded.

When shiznit hits the fan, if you embrace it with an open loving accepting mind you "pop" through to the next level. Whatever it may be

Or we shift into another realm.

reply to post by Loki Lyesmyth


I like that. It's 'either' 'or'. But that's only two possibilities ; there may be more, according to our beliefs, be it unto us. Accounts of the Other side - they ALL vary, yet retain certain similarities, planes within planes. Will find out soon.

mclinking

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by lowki

 

I understand the points you're making, I'm not sure you're understanding mine. Though again, your answers are good. What is being attempted is called a negative harvest, and that is one of the things we're here for.

still a soul chooses to go or stay at harvest time.

Our Higher Selves, are Beyond, they're not in this digital hollogram universe.

ya, they're in the fine matter realms.
where we all float around as balls of light,
in basic geometric shapes,
recreating various experiences we had when alive.

I've had connections to beyond the space time dimensions/and frequencies here. There are many ways to be free. The freedom from a system of corporate/fascist slavery is in the physical sense, clean technology, development of psi and connection to ourselvses

yes, the components are available,
we have but to make use of them.

But this is all illusion, and there is a greater freedom, its our soul's progression, advancement and moving off this system.

sure you can leave the planet.
or if you're really adventurous go to another universe.

the fine-matter realm of being a ball,
is a tad boring, that's why we play these games.
the point of games is to have fun.

if you're not having fun here,
what makes you think you'll be having more fun elsewhere?

yes there are federation planets with "utopias".
they are stable, but stagnant, and can get quite boring.
though I'm sure for those that haven't been there,
and those that live there, they like it.

I'm also always curious what people really think is coming. For example, many of us discuss eco villages, and a new way of living, clean natural technology, but progressive, and freedom.

yes

In reality, has anyone forgotten that they've built bases that house up to 14% of the population,

that's almost a billion people.

very high tech and take over Northern BC and Alastka, and North West Territories, in many areas, erected a black phallus symbol in beautiful Atlin BC, these arent going to be safe for ordinary civilians soon.

okay, so more motivation to form atom-tribes then.

Basically with their technology they will be mapping the surface and watching everything on screens possibly even placing bets on situations like evil felons. Do you really think we will have a new world in the end, after the mad max scenario tapers off, when a huge segment of society, the arch villians, and all their propreity technolgoy and ets/reptilians/hybrids are there?

sounds like fun :-).

diversity of experience.

Not a chance! This isn't about souls staying for another 26 000 years, this is about graduation time, moving on from a low level, harsh duality slave planet, to better options and vistas. And thats why many of us, from outside, are here inside this sytem.

Well you've really gotta look around to what the "better options" are.
There are many accounts of such things by various contactees.
Having been to their worlds they can describe them.

It's quite interesting how many species are here,
more than you'd find around many a planet,
truly a congregation of the universe.

Earth is the most diverse planet of them all.
It's got more interesting stuff happening than anywhere else.
Freedom and Community, what are the chances of finding that elsewhere?
On Federation planets have to ask a high council about anything unordinary.
quite effectively suppressing creativity.
"no money" but much management.

On earth we can use price-calculation-barter,
so each could be aware of barter trade deficit,
allowing each to issue debt or currency.

If your willing to live under such an oppressive regime,
though I'm sure you'll have lots of folks tell you otherwise,
go ahead.

I'm very sensitive to my natural abilities being oppressed,
so you might find higher levels of oppression tolerable.

That's okay. :-)
Lots of people live on federation planets.
You might have to die to get there,
and even then most wont meet the criteria for acceptance.

If you are interested in community and freedom,
can stay on earth, form an atom tribe.

It's a new path through infinity.
based on earths nature.

Remember that as the planet, we and you evolve,
we move more and more towards paradise.

My life is an earthly paradise now already,
I wish to share it with the we with you.

As well as extend it,
ensuring it is preserved and recreated,
for aons to come.

May we with you seed the universe with freedom communities atom-tribes.


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