Robinesque Ruminations

reply to post by G.A.G.


Is this where you are looking?

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That round or the brown bit?

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by G.A.G.

 

Is this where you are looking?

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That round or the brown bit?

Thankyou! Exact location, but much bigger. I estimate the perimeter of the circle going thru the center of each state though...its huge. One may have to kinda stare for a moment but once you see it it will never go away. If you zoom out and increase the size of your circle, I am so appreciative of your help. g.a.g.

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So I guess that will be this circle with volcanic things all round the edge of the 'caldera'

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by G.A.G.

 

So I guess that will be this circle with volcanic things all round the edge of the 'caldera'

Well, actually everything youve done is perfect, and zoom out farther and get rid of all the markers. I just checked with ruler on google earth and what I see is about 250 miles across in each direction. But thankyou and it may be my imagination.

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That circle is in excess of 300 miles across!

That is humongous for a caldera. I don't think it could be any further out than that - and the ring of volcanic activity round it? Mm, interesting.

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by G.A.G.

 

That circle is in excess of 300 miles across!

That is humongous for a caldera. I don't think it could be any further out than that - and the ring of volcanic activity round it? Mm, interesting.

edit on 10/2/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)

Youre right the circle you drew is plenty big enough, but need to zoom out a bit more. I first noticed this watching the weather channel, and the patterns of cool/cold temperatures stood out in a circular pattern and Ive seen it occur often.

That's roughly where I see a circle. Maybe the left side of the arc a bit west. It definately has a circular shape. And it's interesting that there volcanoes there. Very interesting. But I'm stumped. Probably cause I'm full.

Puterman, I share some of that disdain for the scientists who do stupid things. Like all the geologists who front for the oil companies. And there are indeed many stupid ideas. We agree there's climate change.

Good. But you can't throw out everything those that believe there's an issue that needs addressing.

CO2 can be a pollutant. If you're in a room that has no oxygen, you're dead. So pollution is all relative. I tell my kid this all the time, too much of anything is a bad thing. Yes it's stupid to put nitrogen in the water to boost algae trying to suck out the carbon. Because you'll never get the mix right, and there's the law of unintended consequences. I'm an old school farmer. It's about rotation and balance. With the soil, with the bugs and the viruses. You have to understand natural to strike the right balance.

It's all about balance. Humans are definately changing the enviroment, and the climate. Life helped create the atmosphere. Dinosaurs changed their enviroments. There is no seperation. We are our enviroments. And they are drastically different then they've been in the past. Starlings are native in Europe. They are not native here. They are the dominate bird in cities and the suburbs, and countrysides. In the cities, the European Sparrow has become dominant. Both of these species are very agressive and have thrived. They are pushing native birds out of their territories and taking nesting places. Even here out in the middle of nowhere Canada. They've taken up residence here in the town and are dominant around the feeders. The ravens and crows don't seem bothered. But they are incredible, big, smart birds. They make due. But the smaller warblers get chased off.

They also group with native blackbirds and grackles. When I farmed in Niagara, the starlings would gather by the tens of thousands. They would feast on the spilled grain. They are such a pest all over rural North America that farmers try to capture them to cull them, but it's almost pointless. Their masses are staggering. Amongst the blackbird flocks, is a native bird called a cow bird. It finds protection in the massive flocks. This bird is parasitic. It lays it's eggs in the nests of other birds. Since the cows due to the safety in the large flocks, and the extra food all those cattle make, this means there are many species of birds which have to contend with failed reproduction. More cow birds, fewer other birds. Of course when there are fewer birds to find to lay eggs in their nests, you'll find the cow birds population drops. Oh yes there are natural flucations, but when you swing the system wildly, you get extreme results. In winter here, birds only have one chance unlike warmer climates.

Forget about CO2. Forget about the scientists. This is a problem of pure logic. There is a balance to our natural systems. And for billions of years that balance has had it's flucuations. But it always recovers and evolution rolls onward. The simple fact is that we are throwing off this balance. For every action the is an equal and opposite reaction. Everything we do has some consequence. You cannot have the impact that humans have wrought without causing changes. Hell, lots are for the better when it comes to us. But for how long.

Two good examples. Resistant bacteria. Resistant insects. Anti-biotics and pesitsides are not eliminating the problem. In fact their make things worse. They are speeding up evolution. Which creates bigger, badder bugs. More of them. In my garden I accept that I will loss things to molds, mildews, viruses, and bugs. I will try all sorts of things to keep my plants healthy and promote a balanced soil rich with organics. But I won't be spraying poisons on something I am going to eat. It's stupid. Scientists can up with all these stupid ideas. So it's not them that I trust. It's the math, it's evolution, biology and common sence.

I'm unbalanced. And to try to stay as healthy and sane as I can, I try to stay balanced.

Equalibrium. A system is a system because it's always trying to achieve equalibrium. It never quite gets it right. Climate is a system trying to find the middle ground between hot and cold.

Don't trust the scientists. Trust what you learn from your garden.

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That's roughly where I see a circle. Maybe the left side of the arc a bit west. It definately has a circular shape. And it's interesting that there volcanoes there.
Absolutely what I see. Im not going to belabor the issue but I will thankyou for making a mental note and keep an eye on the weather channel, and keep on eye on the temperature patterns, and maybe u2u me to discuss further?

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Robin, know this - Puterman challanges your mind - that is his goal, to take you one step further in your thinking - always... A work of art if you ask me.. that is how we all grow. Expands the mind! It is a Good Thing!!! He's working your mind isn't he? :-) (mine too :-) ) --

BTW I want to know how you all do that round guy bowing to the gods thing ----

BTW Fracking IMHO = doom! All of these shale deposits sit along hot spot, faults , etc. - just things that should not be messed with. We already know, or at least from the studies I have done show that Hydro Thermal systems result in quakes. Both are very closely realted - Fracking is Worse! --- Again - They have been useing chemicals in the water (diesel fuel - explains the water that ignites)

They are contributing to the end of the earth as we know it.

If I knew of a way to stop this maddnes, I would be right on it. Just Completely - Off the Wall.

Forgive spelling errors - not my hot spot and spell check isn't working - and on top of everything else, my mom's boyfriend went missing 4 days ago after having to meet with the Gov. ----- Willie C. Krauss from NYC - anyone that has information about him, PLEASE Send me a U2U

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There is a balance to our natural systems. And for billions of years that balance has had it's flucuations.

Yes, the fluctuation of 'humans' will be shaken off soon and equilibrium will be restored.

VIVE LA REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!

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I thing that is part of the Fish Canyon Tuft.

reply to post by G.A.G.
I see the circular area you mention, but this is what I saw when I zoomed out. This area does not follow the continental drift so maybe it is a huge short term event? Or maybe just a coincidental, interesting anomally. Just had to throw it in.
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The "Circle" dwarfs the Fish Canyon Tuff. petrology.oxfordjournals.org...

Which points to how huge the area in question is.

If you want to see the future it's easier than you think. Because pollution is old news. So just apply what's happened to what's happening now in Arkansas.
www.bbc.co.uk...

The swarm in Arkansas is still ongoing. Curious pause before it began again. Lots of tiny little quakes in near Madrid.

There is all kinds of arcs in the southwestern United States. Volcanic action seems to like circles. Alaska is so pronouced. Islands are round and the caldera that volcanoes they leave behind are circular.

reply to post by Robin Marks
I found a picture of an atmospheric anomaly in the Four Corners area. Interesting to be sure. www.godlikeproductions.com...

Also found a discussion which tends to agree with you Robin. www.pbase.com...
The area has not been seriously studied yet, I would say.

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Thankyou!!! You have circled exactly what Ive seen. I however didnt really see it extending up as far as you highlighted Its huge. I just saw the circle centered at the four corners. Thankyou again for doing the work for me, I could have never done that. g.a.g

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There are two impact craters in that area. Look at the map with the circle that I drew. They are both marked.

The circle I drew also is the area under the so called weather anomaly. Is it still there now? Probably not in the which case it is just a coincidence. Now if it stayed over the area................

In case anyone's interested, I'm very concerned about the Arkansas quakes. There's been a dozen today. I found a report that is very relevant. I won't repost my thoughts here, so I'll direct you toward my thoughts on the QuakeWatch thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I've started a thread on the Arkansas swarm.

www.abovetopsecret.com...